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I do work hard to fit in, I just feel it's more comfortable that way, even though, despite my best efforts, I do always come across as a bit eccentric.  One thing I really dislike and which was prevalent in my last workplace but not so much in my new one is where the boss encourages after-work "get togethers" like bowls nights or going out en masse to dinner.  I mean, I really dislike those, I get enough of trying to fit in with the herd during work, I don't want to hang out with them after work as well!  But nobody else seems to feel that way.  And particularly at night, I just can't be bothered to "pretend" to be chatty or want to talk about my day, my feelings, etc.  I just want to take it easy and have some quiet time to de-stress from pretending all day at work.
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09-03-2007 03:10 AM
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Yes, I think work time is work time and home time is home time. If a person enjoys going out with workmates outside of work that's fine but it shouldn't be made an obligation.


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09-04-2007 11:45 AM
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If it is any consolation that is a problem for us NTs too in a 'corporate' culture.  I have husband, family, friends and a life - i have never really wanted to socialise after work with workmates.  In the last job I was in I was made to feel very bad about that (in UK) and told that I was not a 'team player'.  Why, because I didn't want to go the pub with my workmates????  Honestly think this sort of thing, whilst it may be abigger probmem fpr those who are AS, is just much too prevalent.  Work is just a job, your family and home can't be replaced.  I now work for myself and only have to take myself out for a drink (smile)!

09-04-2007 11:59 AM
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I concur with Yetti.

Of course, it cuts both ways, but we have a responsibility too.

I just feel that too often we expect other people to accomodate us but we won't meet them half way.

If you can do this, as Yetti, says in his example it can be hugely enjoyable - and beneficial for all parties!


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I have never been fired... I have always been successful and yes fitting in is essentially team work.... The younger you learn it, the better the chances.. stay true to yourself but always try team work.. .A young aspie at our support group has learned this and is very successful at his work and loves it!


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I thought you might be interested to see this web page - actually four web pages if you include the three questions. What do you think of the advice?
http://www.worksmart.org.uk/career/fitting_in

fitting in at work

How important is fitting in at work?  more...
How can I make sure I fit in?  more...
Does fitting in have to mean conforming?  more...


further information

Working is only a part of being at work. The work pays the bills and is the reason you’re there, but the people you work with are a central feature of your working life, and can prove even more important in the long term, with friendships often lasting long after the jobs through which they were begun. Fitting in at work is a key step towards ensuring that your working life is productive and happy and that you make the most of the social potential your workplace provides.


How important is fitting in at work?

If only in terms of the actual work you do, fitting in at your workplace makes a big difference. A cohesive team, bound together not just by their presence in an office or factory but by shared interests and social experiences, makes for a much more effective unit than one where work is the only thing bringing them together. At the very least, the employer will need to recruit new staff a lot less often.

For an employee, a workplace where you fit in with your colleagues feels like a completely different place to one where you don't. Being a part of a group gives you more energy and enthusiasm and inspires creativity, as well as providing access to a ready-made social network with immense potential. If you don't fit in at your workplace, you're unlikely to be very happy or to stay there very long.


How can I make sure I fit in?

The first step to fitting in is to get a sense of the culture of your workplace. Every organisation has its own culture, which manifests itself in the dress code, the look and layout of the place, the level of formality and the way staff interact with each other. Getting a clear sense of the way things are done is an important step towards making sure you pitch your own behaviour in a way that will chime with your colleagues. If you show up every day in a suit when everyone else is wearing jeans, unless your work requires it, you'll be erecting a barrier between you and those around you.

Set yourself some basic rules about how you deal with your colleagues. Don't be critical of them or their work. If you have an issue with someone, approach them about it personally rather than airing your concerns with other people, and do so in a positive, constructive way rather than being confrontational. Asking for help with problems you have with your work is a good way of breaking the ice and indicating a level of respect for colleagues' opinions, which will help. Developing these kind of habits will create a good climate for fitting in.

Make the effort to go to social functions arranged through work. These allow you to meet your colleagues outside of the usual working environment, when they're more relaxed and the organisational hierarchies and work-related barriers are weaker, and you can let your personality come across more easily. If you're asked to join people after work or at lunchtime, accept, because that's a clear invitation for you to fit in. And, if nobody asks, it's often because everyone thinks it's someone else's responsibility, so don't be afraid to do the asking yourself. Just like you, most people like to know that others are interested in them.


Does fitting in have to mean conforming?

If you're conforming against your wishes then you're not fitting in. Fitting in means making your personality a part of your working environment, not allowing it to disappear under a culture of which you can't be a part. If the culture of your workplace doesn't appeal to you, then it's worth trying to develop alternatives. If, for example, your colleagues get legless in the pub every evening and that's not your thing, try suggesting alternatives - a sporting outing, perhaps, a musical gig or a movie. The odds are that you'll soon find like-minded people who'll welcome the chance to do something different. Of course, it is possible that, despite your efforts, the culture is simply one you could never fit into. But most workplaces contain a remarkable variety of people, and trying to make connections is nearly always well worth the effort.

09-05-2007 11:23 AM
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The thing about this article that I find the most interesting is that it is written by the TUC
( for non UK members Trades Union Council )
This organisation is paid for by workers  ( via union dues ) to represent & help workers NOT employers.

To those bullied at work & I didn't know just how rife it is, this site is very helpful.

Just Fight On--- anti bullying website

09-06-2007 12:50 AM
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tenaciouscj



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Ah, it's mostly just corporate weasel speak to go on and on about fitting in at work. Some cultures are toxic and should not be encouraged.


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09-08-2007 01:18 PM
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"Fitting in" may make your time at work with other employees easier, but really, "fitting in" sounds like something straight out of high school.

I work fast food...would I really want to fit in there? No. It does, however, make me feel awkward and out of place. I either work with high school kids or adults with pretty much lack of education. I'm 29 years old. Here by misfortune. I work with kids, I feel like a babysitter. I work with adults and I feel like, when I make small talk, it's as if I were speaking another language.

I guess even if I wanted to fit in I couldn't. How do I fit in? What's the point.

On the other hand, I'm rather liked by the managers and those who have been working there for quite a while, namel the adults (they see me as a kid but that's ok - I look all of 16). I do my job well (if that means anything in the long run).

It's just a job. I go there. Do my work. Then come home. The end.


"Birds can fly. And fish can swim. But on this planet where do I fit in? I could be in trouble or just imagining. Sometimes I feel like an alien..." - Shakespear's Sister
09-12-2007 05:31 AM
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Yes Imajican, I agree totally with your last comments. I don't think we have any obligation to fit in at a workplace, apart from doing our fair share of the work and treating co-workers with fairness and courtesy.

I would like to socialise a bit more with my workmates outside of work but don't own a car and so would have to rely on somebody to give me a lift or spend up on taxi fares. Excess noise can be an issue but perhaps I could see if we could have some trivia nights.


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I was at work training once and a buch of us workers sat outside and talked and suddenly a person came with a really bad rasist coment.I hate such humor.I stood up and left.
Where are you going, asked the person.
I have more importent stuff to do then listen to this,I said and left inside and started working again.
After id gone home he came to my boss and told her what Id done.

09-12-2007 12:51 PM
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I don't fit in.  I doubt I would fit in if I tried.  It is not my fault that people can not accept my differences.  I need to eat lunch by myself and spend some working hours in calm and silence.  I believe these should be accommodations that I can ask for.

09-12-2007 02:40 PM
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Yes - it's hardly unreasonable that you'd like some personal space.


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09-13-2007 12:31 PM
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Emmy Wrote:
I was at work training once and a buch of us workers sat outside and talked and suddenly a person came with a really bad rasist coment.I hate such humor.I stood up and left.


This is something I experience at work as well. The majority of my co-workers are very friendly people to me, yet some of them can be completely prejudiced. They can have their views all they want, but I refuse to be a participant. If that means keeping my mouth quiet during their conversations then so be it. I just feel I'm surrounded by so many narrow-minded, unworldly folk it frustrates me.


"Birds can fly. And fish can swim. But on this planet where do I fit in? I could be in trouble or just imagining. Sometimes I feel like an alien..." - Shakespear's Sister
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I don't fit in.  I doubt I would fit in if I tried.  It is not my fault that people can not accept my differences.  I need to eat lunch by myself and spend some working hours in calm and silence.  I believe these should be accommodations that I can ask for.


*grins* As soon as I read this, this came to mind:

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That cartoon is just brilliant! I like it!


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09-14-2007 02:06 PM
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yeah its goodBig Grin

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