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RE: Do you feel as human as an NT?  Do you feel different?

I am not human, I am better!

MvuhaHaHahahAHAHahahAHAAHAHA!

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I remember when I was younger I always wanted to do things in another way than others did, I probably still do, as it avoids competition and comparing yourself to others.


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You know, sometimes I wonder whether NTs "sharing" these emotions isn't a way to subconsciously try and "pass on the burden", or lessen the impact for the individual. Perhaps we are just more sensitive to the loss of experience/emotion when having to share these things?


It does look like that.  I've observed that people seem to get something out of sharing their emotions, some sort of comfort, but I don't understand it.  I don't tell anyone something is wrong unless there's something they can do to help me with it, and there usually isn't.  I don't want to burden people I care about with anything they can't change, I don't want them to feel as helpless as I do.

Just yesterday my sister (safe person) and I went to see the new "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie, and on the way there I asked her about the way she, our older sister and our mother like to tell everyone they can about every conversation they have, every phone call they make, every thing they do, in detail, over and over, which looks exhausting and illogical.  I asked my sister if everyone does this, and she said she didn't know, but I didn't think just then to ask her why.

Maybe it's a way of figuring things out.  Maybe if you go over a situation aloud over and over, you begin to see it more clearly and thus determine out how to proceed.

Hmm.  <hugs>

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But, in summary.  We are a slightly different kind of Cro Magnon, one with distinct abilities in math, science, engineering, and/or computers.  Maybe even foreign language too, I was, I had six courses in Spanish and Latin in high school and straight As in the Latin.  


You certainly speak well for everyone, thank you.

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But, in summary.  We are a slightly different kind of Cro Magnon, one with distinct abilities in math, science, engineering, and/or computers.  Maybe even foreign language too, I was, I had six courses in Spanish and Latin in high school and straight As in the Latin.


I've got to be honest.  This is the kind of thing that makes me think I don't even belong to Aspergia.

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Batman55, you do belong. You've said in previous posts that you've got artistic talent and that's just as valid as being good at languages or maths. We all have our different areas where we are talented so please don't put yourself down and think you're less intelligent.

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... like to tell everyone they can about every conversation they have, every phone call they make, every thing they do, in detail, over and over, which looks exhausting and illogical.  I asked my sister if everyone does this, and she said she didn't know, but I didn't think just then to ask her why.

Maybe it's a way of figuring things out.  Maybe if you go over a situation aloud over and over, you begin to see it more clearly and thus determine out how to proceed.

Interesting. From my observations, my preliminary conclusion is that not everybody repeats conversations in the same way, and I think not all for the same reasons.
Some (not all) people repeat literally "she said... and then I said ...". The purpose might be just communicating with eachother, to achieve a feeling of being together.
Some people maybe share the conversations they had to convince themselves they said the right things, to reduce uncertainty. Another reason might be to create or maintain a certain image of themselves, and repeating discussions to others helps them to impress the person they're talking to now. Or perhaps sometimes they do it for fun, to make others laugh.

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Batman55 Wrote:

GuessWho Wrote:
But, in summary.  We are a slightly different kind of Cro Magnon, one with distinct abilities in math, science, engineering, and/or computers.  Maybe even foreign language too, I was, I had six courses in Spanish and Latin in high school and straight As in the Latin.  


You certainly speak well for everyone, thank you.
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I've got to be honest.  This is the kind of thing that makes me think I don't even belong to Aspergia.

I don't understand - first you say the poster spoke well for everyone and then you turn around and use the very same quote to complain about how it doesn't apply to you?!






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I am not human, I am better!


Perhaps Homo-sapiens-sapiens....sapiens Wink

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I remember when I was younger I always wanted to do things in another way than others did, I probably still do, as it avoids competition and comparing yourself to others.
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Batman55 Wrote:

GuessWho Wrote:
But, in summary.  We are a slightly different kind of Cro Magnon, one with distinct abilities in math, science, engineering, and/or computers.  Maybe even foreign language too, I was, I had six courses in Spanish and Latin in high school and straight As in the Latin.  


You certainly speak well for everyone, thank you.
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I've got to be honest.  This is the kind of thing that makes me think I don't even belong to Aspergia.

I don't understand - first you say the poster spoke well for everyone and then you turn around and use the very same quote to complain about how it doesn't apply to you?!


The first comment was supposed to be biting sarcasm (as in, he's talking about how those with AS are so good at Math and crap like that, and I'm nutmeg dumb in most academic areas).

But I guess some of you didn't read it that way.

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Sarcasm + AS often doesn't combine well, especially when magnified to the power of internets. I thought the comments were strangely contradictory as well.

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Five said:

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Some (not all) people repeat literally "she said... and then I said ...". The purpose might be just communicating with eachother, to achieve a feeling of being together.
Some people maybe share the conversations they had to convince themselves they said the right things, to reduce uncertainty. Another reason might be to create or maintain a certain image of themselves, and repeating discussions to others helps them to impress the person they're talking to now. Or perhaps sometimes they do it for fun, to make others laugh.


Ah, good points here.  These possibilities cover more situations than what I'd previously theorized, thank you.  I think I'll try to keep this in mind next time I'm overhearing a conversation, and try to see where it might fit.  

My sister, I know, is prone to telling stories that make one laugh; she especially does it when I get quiet.  Since she's the one I go to about this stuff, I'll ask her about this again, now that I have more to say.  Thank you again, Five!

<hugs>

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Sarcasm + AS often doesn't combine well, especially when magnified to the power of internets.


That quote is signature-worthy! Smile






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I got what Batman55 meant - not all Aspies are good at maths/languages and so on.


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Everyone has strengths and weaknesses.

If I ever post my picture, that's a weakness.  This morning at the doctor's office, I weighed 290 pounds (132 kg) standing 5'9" (1.75 meters).  Body mass index, almost 43.  Over 30 is danger.  Over 40 is Danger Danger Will Robinson!

Those people, esp. women, who have paid careful attention to diet and exercise.... I'm very envious.  For 30 years I've just paid attention to my brain.

And colleagues with excellent social presentation skills, adds to my envy.

Amazing how some NTs are so skilled, they make themselves look so perfect to other people who haven't a clue.




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Batman55, you do belong. You've said in previous posts that you've got artistic talent and that's just as valid as being good at languages or maths. We all have our different areas where we are talented so please don't put yourself down and think you're less intelligent.


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Another thing.  It takes time to make something wonderful, a brain, a figure, acting career, musical ability, and so on.  

"..... Goliath has been a warrior since he was a young man"  (1 Samuel 17:33)

anecdotal: average length of service of U.S. special forces in Afghanistan, something like 13 years.  That's why they're Special Forces.

I've been in computer programming over eight years now.  My brother, 16 minus six months of unemployment.  (Take good mental care of yourself.  My brother didn't and it crippled him for a while, and he was an EXCELLENT computer programmer, and IS AGAIN).  

The community alienation bothers my brother.  It doesn't bother me much, I try to be part of the apartment six-pack of units (two per floor, three floors, no elevator), occasional charities, church, the gym.  All the cards I have to send every Christmas, makes me happy (Clarence to George Bailey, Xmas movie: "each life touches so many others": gym, church, grocery, bank, video rental, dry cleaners, work...)

Maybe some professors and I have been in school long enough to be special forces (last time I was in University, two faculty said get a Ph.D and teach- I thought, no more damned student loans, higher education is as bad as multi-level marketing, getting rich off the kids dreams, kids are just Social Security Numbers getting student loans whether or not they graduate and pay them back).

Maybe we can't get a Emmy award on the stage of life.  

But choose something and stick with it, and the longer you do it, the better and better you'll get and be proud of, and then that becames a self-fulfilling cycle.    





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 For 30 years I've just paid attention to my brain.

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