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Lili Marlene Wrote:
Could it be the case that NTs (most of them) are good at keeping tabs on how they sound to others while also doing stuff, but we are less good at doing two things at once, so we just do stuff, and are not keeping tabs on how loud or or high-pitched our voices are? Is it all to do with attention/attention-switching?


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Lili Marlene Wrote:
Could it be the case that NTs (most of them) are good at keeping tabs on how they sound to others while also doing stuff, but we are less good at doing two things at once, so we just do stuff, and are not keeping tabs on how loud or or high-pitched our voices are? Is it all to do with attention/attention-switching?

Yep, got it in one.

It is down to "self-monitoring" which is ultimately down to multitasking and attention-switching.  Smile

Although of course there are some who are tone deaf as well, and even when they try very hard to hear changes in intonation in other people's voices (even when not trying to understand what is said etc.), or in their own voices on tape, they simply can't tell the difference, at least not very easily.

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That is the case for me. I can juggle one orange on good days.

Ah but eating them is much more fun  Tongue






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If only I could act smart and be smart at the same time, I'd be dangerous! Cool

Having a monotonous voice didn't stop Marlene Dietrich, Ed Kuepper, Morrissey or Bryan Ferry from acheiving fame as singers. If you're sexy, German or talented enough you can get by without intonation.


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Lili Marlene Wrote:
Having a monotonous voice didn't stop Marlene Dietrich, Ed Kuepper, Morrissey or Bryan Ferry from acheiving fame as singers. If you're sexy, German or talented enough you can get by without intonation.

:lol:

It is often said that singing and speaking don't function the same (don't some autistics learn to speak by singing?). I wish that was the case for me though - sadly, my singing is even worse (as far as pitch and timing is concerned) than my speech. Didn't stop me from singing permanently as a toddler mind you. Poor parents  :shock:

I am kind of glad, with hindsight, that my high school signing teacher took away my enthusiasm for singing - otherwise I might have ended up like one of those utterly talentless but seriously deluded (about their singing talent) people who appear on those horrible talent shows :-(






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Noetic Wrote:
The tape recorder thing is a good idea, I did try this in my teens, after noticing how horrible my voice sounded and how right some people had been about how wobbly etc. it sounded. (We had to do some tapes for French and English class and I was horrified when I listened to them)


Everybody, aspie or NT hates hearing their own voice out of a tape player!

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Hey, can anybody explain to me why the massive emphasis on dating in US society? I could be latching onto a media stereotype here, and in Australia we are concerned about finding mates too; but it seems to be an obssession in the US and I don't understand why.

You get mums in conniptions because their 18 year olds are not dating yet and there seems to be so much emphasis on standards of perfection that nobody can meet. I saw a lot of angst over on Wrongplanet from the dateless and although some made inappropriate comments about women, I can also see why they would be so frustrated when even their best efforts meet with ignorance and rejection.


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RE: Anyone ever hear of Jerry Newport?

Hopefully, he would be outed as a traitor, judging from the start of the thread.


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RE: Anyone ever hear of Jerry Newport?

Dark Shamshir X Wrote:
Hopefully, he would be outed as a traitor, judging from the start of the thread.

He certainly doesn't speak for me! I saw the movie, "Mozart and The Whale" and the character based on him was all cute and sweet (because he was played by a very personable and nice looking actor).

Judging by his writings in real life, he is nothing like that! I also note that his original comment represents a not so rare phenomenon whereby people who are in a minority group and have made good are harder on others in that group the the majority society ever would have been.

He was lucky to get the job that he did; so was I lucky to find a secure job. I am fully aware that we are the exception; all my aspie friends in real life are either out of work, have a spotty employment history, or are on disability support pension. And these are so-called "high-functioning" people. Nearly all have tried their utmost to look for work but it's simply not easy if you are not a social animal.

How dare Jerry say that other aspies who aren't in his relatively privileged position are bludging off the taxpayer? I would have thought he'd had shown more compassion but it's as if he wants to prove that he's as NT as the most NT NT.

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RE: Anyone ever hear of Jerry Newport?

Then let's out him as an NT!


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If ten times the enemy's strength, surround them; if five times, attack them; if double, divide them; if equal, be able to fight them; if fewer, be able to evade them; if weaker, be able to avoid them.

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Sun Tzu Wrote:
If your enemy is choleric, seek to anger him.


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09-16-2008 01:02 AM
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RE: Anyone ever hear of Jerry Newport?

Or at least borderline aspie.

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I wish to add further criticism to the claim that there is something morally inferior about living off any form of welfare or disability compensation.

There are many jobs that not only contribute nothing to the economy but that are so destructive that we would all be better off paying some people to stay home instead. The fashion salesman artificially creates demand for a product the public would not desire if television commercials did not program the public to want to buy that sports figure endorsed pair of $200 sneakers that cost 50 cents to manufacture. But because the fashion advertiser goes to a job and performs useless penitence for his income, he gets to pretend that he contributes more to humanity than the welfare recipient. The clerk in the cigarette outlet whose merchandise, by account of WHO causes about 600,000 nonsmokers throughout the world to die each year earns her pay check less that the person who does nothing for money.

The economic system is deliberately rigged to deny jobs to a quota of the population; no matter what, someone has to be locked out of the job market and that is inevitably the population that is least able to defend themselves in a world of little games at job competitive job interviews and often fraudulent offers for income opportunities such as network marketing. Many and probably most of those in that quota could and would gladly put in an honest day's work for a decent wage if they were allowed to do so. Since they are not, it is criminal to hold them responsible for society's decision to deprive them of entry into the work force.

The junk culture industry, especially the religion industry, working with the likes of such scum as born again Christians as Jack Walsh and Rupert Murdoch, have tailored the mega-churches to teach the unemployed quota that through prayer and positive thinking they will, by mystical telekinesis, "attract" a job to them and God will make them winners and someone else losers in their place; thus, it is your fault if you did not beat someone else into becoming a loser in the job market and you deserve to be made into a street person for your mediocre performance in the gladiator arena of the job market.

The more competitive employed are taught to pound their chests and show the world how superior they are to the less competitive because in our sadistic pop culture, it feels good for the public to blame, hate and destroy the self-respect those who can least defend themselves against such bullying.
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This is so wrong on so many levels.   :x

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Mr. Newport, according to a quote I saw today, you said that "people with Aspergers can't have it both ways. If they really believe that they just have a unique way of living, then they can get off their butts and make a unique living like the rest of us."

You appear to be saying that anyone who is unemployed or receives disability benefits is lazy, doesn't deserve social acceptance, and has no right to self-expression.  I find that attitude outrageous.  Surely you must know that autistics and others with neurological differences are often faced with significant discrimination in the workplace and are not protected under the equal employment opportunity laws.  As for disability, many autistics suffer from chronic depression and anxiety because they have been told, all their lives, that they are mentally defective and incapable of any worthwhile accomplishments.  Do you deny that depression and anxiety are genuine disabilities?

I am an adult Aspie.  I work and pay taxes, but I don't believe this gives me any more entitlement to freedom of speech and other civil rights than others who have been less fortunate in finding work.  

Until we live in a world where no autistic child must grow up believing that he is defective, I will continue to support the autism rights movement, and I will make common cause with anyone else who values human diversity, regardless of whether they are unemployed or disabled.

It's quite interesting that, although you claim to be representative of the AS population, you contrast "people with Asperger's" to "the rest of us."  Hmmmm.

You have a right to express your opinions, but those of us who believe in tolerance and diversity also have a right to boycott your movie and books, and to urge others to do the same.

Sincerely,

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Mr Newport writes: There was little mention of altenative sexual lifestyles because it was suppressed by my publisher......We would have much rather invited gays and lesbians to contribute a chapter but that was not allowed.

A person of integrity would not have agreed to publication under these terms. No one forced Mr Newport to write his wretched book. By failing to represent LGBT Aspies - mention of which might have harmed the sale of the book to Bible Belt American parents - he has not only misrepresented our community, but made himself the toady man and flunkey of our oppressors.

Jerry Newport's not the only author in this field to concentrate solely on heterosexuality. Genevieve Edmonds and Dean Warton made no mention of same-sex relationships in their Asperger Love Guide.


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Jerry Newport's not the only author in this field to concentrate solely on heterosexuality. Genevieve Edmonds and Dean Warton made no mention of same-sex relationships in their Asperger Love Guide.
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Since the established publishers are so cowardly as to censor such things that should be allowed in print, anothes solution is to publish yourself what need to be said. It is not that difficult. I use http://www.lulu.com and I published a dramatic novel which I call The Autistic Comedy. It is a social satire that borrows some characters from Dante Alighieri's classic epic poem and you can check it out at the lulu website. The Night of God's Suicide is another but harder edged satire I published the same way.

An authority on same sex vinculums should take recourse to publishing the same way advice for those whose sexual instincts are so inclined.

I am open to ideas on how to announce to the autistic community my books and so would be anyone else with something worthwhile to publish.

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drbarney1 Wrote:

Aeolienne Wrote:
Jerry Newport's not the only author in this field to concentrate solely on heterosexuality. Genevieve Edmonds and Dean Warton made no mention of same-sex relationships in their Asperger Love Guide.


drbarney1 Wrote:
An authority on same sex vinculums should take recourse to publishing the same way advice for those whose sexual instincts are so inclined.

What's a vinculum?


As the player's breath warms the fipple the tone clears.
It is time to consider how Domenico Scarlatti
condensed so much music into so few bars
with never a crabbed turn or congested cadence,
never a boast or a see-here; and stars and lakes
echo him and the copse drums out his measure,
snow peaks are lifted up in moonlight and twilight
and the sun rises on an acknowledged land.

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