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RE: As in a religious standpoint

I remember a guy from middle-east something who posted at this forum, he thought it was typical for aspies to be fanatically religious.


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03-14-2007 10:55 AM
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RE: As in a religious standpoint

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It's atypical for an Aspergic to think that a "soul" exists, as we are all supposed to be clinical scientific types who only believe in the physical universe.


All supposed to be? That is what the stereotypes would have you believe, I suppose, but such a stereotype leaves no room for divergence or diversity. Like subscribing to the idea that all aspies are emotionless, imagination deprived robots. Or do we want others to think that we are not capable of a variety of religious / spiritual beliefs?

(My NT mother is far more skeptical than me when it comes to the physical universe. I always hold to the notion -- which is no less logical than any other -- that whatever has not been disproven remains possible. I will not be the one to insist on that which has not been proven, nor to deny the belief in what remains unknown.)



Well said.  I should point out I'm probable AS (possibly AS/NT hybrid, who knows) and I am highly expressive/imaginative for Aspie-ness.

I hold to the belief, thus far, that I am a less typical Aspie.

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RE: As in a religious standpoint

Batman55 Wrote:

nyanchan Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
It's atypical for an Aspergic to think that a "soul" exists, as we are all supposed to be clinical scientific types who only believe in the physical universe.


All supposed to be? That is what the stereotypes would have you believe, I suppose, but such a stereotype leaves no room for divergence or diversity. Like subscribing to the idea that all aspies are emotionless, imagination deprived robots. Or do we want others to think that we are not capable of a variety of religious / spiritual beliefs?

(My NT mother is far more skeptical than me when it comes to the physical universe. I always hold to the notion -- which is no less logical than any other -- that whatever has not been disproven remains possible. I will not be the one to insist on that which has not been proven, nor to deny the belief in what remains unknown.)



Well said.  I should point out I'm probable AS (possibly AS/NT hybrid, who knows) and I am highly expressive/imaginative for Aspie-ness.

I hold to the belief, thus far, that I am a less typical Aspie.


Are our souls Autistic?

Well, the way we understand this existence is clearly related to the soul. Our perception is bound up, both to our soul and differences.

'What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened, as it is written:
   "God gave them a spirit of stupor,
      eyes so that they could not see
      and ears so that they could not hear,
   to this very day."' -Romans 11:7-10


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Are our souls Autistic?

Well, the way we understand this existence is clearly related to the soul. Our perception is bound up, both to our soul and differences.

'What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened, as it is written:
   "God gave them a spirit of stupor,
      eyes so that they could not see
      and ears so that they could not hear,
   to this very day."' -Romans 11:7-10


See the parallel?


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OK OK OK OK I know most people here dont believe in god or any form of religion, but work with me here (or use some imagination)

OK, as a person with a "soul", do we have an autistic soul, or are we just regular souls but in a body in a autistic brain?

Or if we were to be reincarnated, would we be autistic over and over again, or would be live the life of an NT at some point?

I just want to hear what you guys think.


If you define soul as the thing that makes you you, then yes - your soul is autistic.
Personally, I consider my soul to be my physical brain, that's the seat of all my thoughts, feelings, personality, memories, emotions etc - the only thing I can rationally call a "soul".

From a spiritual viewpoint (one I would not agree with), if your "soul" is something other than your body, then autism is still part of it - otherwise it's not truly you.




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RE: As in a religious standpoint

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DogBrain Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
It's atypical for an Aspergic to think that a "soul" exists


Prove it.
Prove the sample from which you have drawn your conclusion is valid.


I don't know, but I have observed lots of scientific/skeptical types on AFF.

It may be because we have a tendency to being blunt/honest, seeing things at their core, whatever that core appears to be.


I have to admit, i'm amazed at how many religious aspies there are, the stereotype is gloriously wrong.




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... OK, as a person with a "soul", do we have an autistic soul, or are we just regular souls but in a body in a autistic brain?


Claim: You have a "Soul."

Evidence: None.

Claim is rejected, remainder of question is disregarded.

SoccerFreak248 Wrote:
Or if we were to be reincarnated, would we be autistic over and over again, or would be live the life of an NT at some point?


Subjunctive lead-up. Question is disregarded.


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07-14-2009 06:14 AM
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Batman55 Wrote:

Ian Wrote:
I reckon that would be the case also, merely the body is Autistic/Aspergic.

flame me all ya want non-believers, as if I give a ***.

Ian


It's atypical for an Aspergic to think that a "soul" exists, as we are all supposed to be clinical scientific types who only believe in the physical universe.


I must be an atypical Aspie, then. Tongue  I must originate from a different bandwith of the autistic spectrum than most AFF members. Never has my imagination restricted my worldview to only what my senses can perceive. Some people will never believe anything beyond what their eyes can see, but I am not one of those people.

What is "real?" anyway? If you're talking about what you can taste, hear, feel and see, then "real" is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain ...


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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RE: As in a religious standpoint

Petemick Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:

Ian Wrote:
I reckon that would be the case also, merely the body is Autistic/Aspergic.

flame me all ya want non-believers, as if I give a ***.

Ian


It's atypical for an Aspergic to think that a "soul" exists, as we are all supposed to be clinical scientific types who only believe in the physical universe.


I must be an atypical Aspie, then. Tongue  I must originate from a different bandwith of the autistic spectrum than most AFF members. Never has my imagination restricted my worldview to only what my senses can perceive. Some people will never believe anything beyond what their eyes can see, but I am not one of those people.

What is "real?" anyway? If you're talking about what you can taste, hear, feel and see, then "real" is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain ...


EVerything is real  -as real as we imagine it to be.

I don't think there is any "typical" aspie.

I love this sentance from above: "Never has my imagination restricted my worldview to only what my senses can perceive. Some people will never believe anything beyond what their eyes can see, but I am not one of those people."

I wouldn't say never, as I am not into absolutes, and I like many can be miopic at moments, but Freethinking ans its' cousin, Imaginationg are good gifts.  As is logic, (cousin to science) and they are not, in my opinion, mutually exclusive.

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RE: As in a religious standpoint

Batman55 Wrote:

DogBrain Wrote:

Batman55 Wrote:
It's atypical for an Aspergic to think that a "soul" exists


Prove it.
Prove the sample from which you have drawn your conclusion is valid.


I don't know, but I have observed lots of scientific/skeptical types on AFF.

It may be because we have a tendency to being blunt/honest, seeing things at their core, whatever that core appears to be.


Yes, Aspies tend towards black/white thinking. But I am an anomly in that regard.


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind."

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09-02-2009 05:19 PM
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