Heh, sock 'im good sky.

I reckon AFF needs more breathing room, and Sat is the one to provide it.

By provide it I mean leave.

Amen, brother Ian ..can we hear from the choir now,a hymn of jubilation

The choir, with a hymn of jubilation!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNBnbcJhVug

alright guys, settle down, back to topic. lets have some debate here people!

The 'technology of death' was only important because Hitler wanted to kill all the Jews as quickly as possible.  Cromwell had the time; if he'd really wanted to he could have totally purged Ireland, and he at least had the decency to insist he wasn't killing civilians.  Hitler bragged about it.  It's like Germany rolled a pair of dice and got a three.  Yeah, it could have been worse, but not much and not likely.  While it's true antisemitism was rampant at the time, most people (even Germans, before he got into power) thought Hitler was a raving lunatic (of course, better to support the lunatic than the commies, right?)

Also, the gas chambers weren't all that high tech; just a big closed off room you dropped cyanide tablets into.  Nobody had thought of using that stuff to kill before.

As for Stalin, yeah, he was a paranoid nut who had people killed for things like being the last to stop clapping for him.  But keep in mind, Hitler ruled for much, much less time than Stalin and racked up a higher kill count.  If Hitler had ruled as long as Stalin there'd be no Jews left in Europe.

The only allowance I'll make to the 'it could have been worse' argument is that they might have gotten a military genius.  Hitler micromanaged his generals way to much, and, though it got him past the Maginot Line, it lost him the Battle of Britain (hey, lets stop bombing air fields and go for London.  That'll make the Brits want to give up all right.)

Another thread that's totally detioriated into a pointless mess......

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