This is a log from the AFF chatroom with an NT who came to talk about his feelings and views-
<Rakoczy> anyway, i started to read a bit of this site, and found it very interesting that there would be any resistance to a cure or prevention
<Rakoczy> Especially when Pre-natal testing was addressed in one of the fliers
<Rakoczy> I have previously discussed that with myself, and one of my biggest fears is that my child would turn out to be Autistic, anywhere on the spectrum
<Rakoczy> Because i have had to deal with my brother for a lifetime, and watch as my parents hopelessly try to correct his more outlandish behaviors
<Rakoczy> I don't see why anyone would voluntarily sire an autistic child, as I am definitely going to use pre-natal testing to determine how healthy it is
<Rakoczy> And if it is autistic, well, i hope abortion is still legal.
<Gareth> define "outlandish behaviours"
<Rakoczy> wow, that would take a while, but i can skim the surface for you
<Gareth> "one of my biggest fears is that my child would turn out to be Autistic, anywhere on the spectrum" < so you think that everyone should be the same?
<Gareth> why is that your biggest fear?
<Rakoczy> No, not that everyone should be the same in the slightest. Autism is very difficult to deal with as a neurotypical, especially in such close proximity.
<Gareth> are you looking at one individual and judging all autistics?
<Rakoczy> I'm choosing not to deal with it, because i definitely wouldn't want my child as an autistic to suffer all of his life
<Rakoczy> It's the same condition
<Gareth> and autism automatically makes people suffer their whole life?
<Rakoczy> not automatically, but the majority of the time, yes
<Gareth> prove it
<Rakoczy> it is much more difficult to live with it than it is to not.
<Gareth> and prove that it's autism itself that causes suffering
<Rakoczy> Prove it?
<Gareth> most aspies i've met suffer only from things such as childhood bullying
<Rakoczy> how easy it is to sit back and type 'prove it' in childish defiance when one confronts a viewpoint that differs from their own.
<Rakoczy> extensive childhood bullying brought on by the difference in behavior
<Gareth> you are the one claiming that autism causes suffering in itself - the burden of proof lies with you
<Gareth> i am saying that autism itself is not what causes the suffering
<Rakoczy> nay, that is an opinion, not something to be proved at this time.
<Gareth> childhood bullying brought on by the difference in behaviour - does not mean that the behaviour is wrong
<Gareth> should we blame racism on black people?
<Rakoczy> it does not mean that the behavior is wrong, yes, but it means that it is a cause of the suffering.
<Gareth> an indirect cause
<Rakoczy> It's not about blame.
<Gareth> therefore - doesn't it make more sense to educate people about autism rather then just wipe it out?
<Gareth> a lot of autistic traits can be a very big advantage to people
<Rakoczy> And a lot of autistic traits can be a huge disadvantage to them, as i have witnessed, personally, over 16 years.
<Gareth> some neurotypical traits can be a huge disadvantage too
<Gareth> everyone has both advantages and disadvantages
<Gareth> but people far too often focus on the disadvantages
<Rakoczy> It is not as if people will start jihad over this, and start shooting autistics everywhere, but it is the rights of the parents to terminate a child that has autism if it is in the womb.
<Rakoczy> Neurotypical traits as a disadvantage? Please name these..
< this is mainly humour/parody, but there are a large number of things that are scarily true