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My group in recent grades were always "the most social&

My fifth grade class was really loud and obnoxious, as said by my fifth grade teacher.

Sixth grade wasn't that big of a problem.

My teachers in seventh grade said that the group I was in was the most social group they ever had to teach, and had to spend half the class trying to make them shut up.

This year, my group is also deemed "the most social".

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I think they're trying to put me into extremely social classes so that I would learn basic social ettiquete better. If they are, guess what? It's backfiring completely.

Not only are my brains being blown out by people conversing loudly right through me like a window, but the fact that people ram themselves into eachother a lot (that's what it looks like) really annoys me. Also, that means more preps and ghetto rats and less people that I am able to make friends with because they accept my weirdness.

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Sorry, I just had to rant there.

What are your thoughts on this idea?


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10-24-2006 04:02 AM
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Meiloyn, I had the same experience. I think it's a big joke. They're trying to teach you how to be social, by putting you in a class of students who behave like 3 year olds? I'd ask, "So you're telling me being social means, SPEAKING REALLY LOUD, GETTING IN EVERYONE'S WAY, AND NOT KNOWING HOW TO SHUT UP? How does that have anything to do with ettiquette? Being social means I have to behave like a bratty kindergardner? Please, explain this to me, since I have no clue about social cues. Have I got this right?"

The caps would be yelling, and the italics would be being sarcastic. I dunno what to do. I usually just acted in an overly exaggerated version of how they acted. They either got put off, or would giggle at me. I'd still have the upper hand..and it's kind of a way of continually saying "See, I'm being social. I'm saying like every couple of seconds. I'm learning how to behave like the rest of these baby-minded losers."


10-24-2006 05:15 PM
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violet_yoshi Wrote:
I think they'd rather hear from one angry parent perspectively, than the 10 angry parents they'd be hearing from..if their "little angels" weren't allowed to be themselves at school.


Ouch! Getting phone calls from every angry parent in the classroom hurts because wey're trying to keep them quiet. I know! Why don't we just let the kids talk and the parents will be happy? That'll solve the angry parent problem! Bullsh!t. If I were the parent of myself in the classroom and I knew exactly what was going on there, I would call you and rant about the noisy kids myself. And that's worse than ten parents complaining about the teachers being too strict. D:<

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I always managed to dissassociate from them. Alot of people who feel the way we do, say whenever someone brings up public schooling..that it's just a daycare for NTs. I think that's true.


Another reason why the public school system is so glitchy and messed up. The kids ruin it.

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I absoultely HATE kids being brats at resturants. In fact I've given up recently, and haven't been to a resturant in a month. It's just so stupid. Especially when the kids are behind your seat and screwing around. It's like, you cannot talk to the parents they think they're sooo self-entitled to have their little brats jump up and down on the seats.  In fact now whenever I walk into a resturant filled with kids, I'll say loudly "Oh I guess we must've walked into Chuck E Cheese!" Like, either you're a resturant, or your a kiddy care place. You can't be both.


I remember how, when I was a little kid, a very noisy kid my age would be pulled out of the restaurant building and given a talking-to from his mother about being rude to the other customers. People don't seem to do that anymore.

Three-year-olds allowed to be obnoxious in restaurants will remain obnoxious in schools even past thirteen.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM! Lazy parenting! D:<


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10-25-2006 02:29 AM
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My classes were always loud. It didn't bother me though as I just taught myself the subject outside the class if I was intrested enough and didn't care if I wasn't.

Also I was once thought of as a good role model by a teacher, she made me stand up infront of the class grabbed me and said "See him you should all be more like him" gave me a big hug and made me sit down. I didn't like her much as she was incredibly old and smelt funny. She was later sacked for beating my mate pretty bad.

10-25-2006 04:33 AM
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I don't envy any aspie student that's going through school these days.  I'm in my 30s and back when I was in school, the teachers made us be quiet, even at lunch time.  If the class got too loud, we were given disiplinary action.  This was back when  corporal punishment was allowed in schools and you could get paddled for talking when you weren't supposed to.

Nowadays, over here in the U.S., the students have taken over so much schools are more like prisons than places of learning.  There's a politician who's using, as part of his campaign, the promise that he'll require textbooks to be bullet-proof so students can use them as protection in school shootings.  A school district in Texas is possibly going to require teachers to carry guns.  Now when teachers start functioning like prison guards, you know the education system is in big trouble.


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10-25-2006 05:37 AM
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Meiloyn, I agree 100%  It's like when kids start screaming in a restaurant. When you tell their parents to please keep them quiet, they say, "Let them be. They're just being kids." Their idea of "being kids" disturbs me and customers. If kids "want to be kids", they can go "be kids" on a playground or at home, not in school or the restaurant.

I get told I'm mean to say that but if I pay good money to go to a restaurant, I go there not only for the food but for the pleasant atmosphere. If the kids are loud enough to be annoying the staff and other customers, at least an attempt should be made to keep them quieter.

I know it's hard, but some of these kids probably aren't ready to be in these places and it would be better to wait until they can act more sensibly before taking them there.


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10-25-2006 01:01 PM
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tenaciouscj Wrote:
Meiloyn, I agree 100%  It's like when kids start screaming in a restaurant. When you tell their parents to please keep them quiet, they say, "Let them be. They're just being kids." Their idea of "being kids" disturbs me and customers. If kids "want to be kids", they can go "be kids" on a playground or at home, not in school or the restaurant.

I get told I'm mean to say that but if I pay good money to go to a restaurant, I go there not only for the food but for the pleasant atmosphere. If the kids are loud enough to be annoying the staff and other customers, at least an attempt should be made to keep them quieter.

I know it's hard, but some of these kids probably aren't ready to be in these places and it would be better to wait until they can act more sensibly before taking them there.


That's also one of my pet peeves. When my brother and I were growing up, there's no way we would have gotten away with what kids do today because my parents would have taken us home right away and we'd be in serious trouble. We never acted up in public, but we still had plenty of time to be kids when we were at home or at the playground.

10-25-2006 11:46 PM
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nirrti Wrote:
There's a politician who's using, as part of his campaign, the promise that he'll require textbooks to be bullet-proof so students can use them as protection in school shootings.


If it weren't so sad, I'd laugh at the cartoonyness of it all. I mean, you have to be rediculously fast to hold a book up in time, to catch a bullet with it.


10-26-2006 12:33 AM
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Bulletproof textbooks?! Given how much the average backback weighs with normal books in it, you'd think that more people would develop severe back problems than would be saved by the bulletproofness of the book!


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10-26-2006 12:59 AM
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Bulletproof textbooks?! Given how much the average backback weighs with normal books in it, you'd think that more people would develop severe back problems than would be saved by the bulletproofness of the book!

Exactly! The fact that I haven't died already from my backpack hitting me on the head when I bend over is a miracle! The last thing I need is for heavy bulletproof metal books to crush my skull when my backpack hits my head! D:<


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SImtimws I mKE REALLU bad mistajes, EDIT BUTTPON, GARETGH!!!@"

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10-26-2006 02:49 AM
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Years ago, we used to have to lug around heavy cases or backpacks full of books at school. Looks as if nothing much have changed.  :mad:

As for the rude and naughty kids in shops and restaurants, I'm told by some people to "make allowances". Maybe sometimes they can't help it but most of the time, their parents don't even try to do anything to pull them into line.

I blame much of this on the trendy child psychologies that have gone on in recent years ie. it will "damage the kiddie's tender little egoes if they are reprimanded or disciplined in any way - the bad behaviour should be ignored".

Maybe that is okay in the home but when they are out, there are other people to be considered too. I also think ignoring kids makes them even angrier and they are liable to escalate their bad behaviour until they get a reaction.


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