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well I guess you guys dont know what its like to be bullied and harrassed.  why else would he have done that?


Been bullied--probably worse than you have ever even IMAGINED, boyo.I have the permanently mis-shapen nose and slightly mis-aligned forearm to go with it.  So, what's your point, boyo?


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Do you guys agree what they said about AS in general?


Certainly not, and that still does not justify your statement regarding the murder victim.

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what would have happened if he didn't act out, he would have gotten fired and all the NTs would be laughing and would have gotten away with f****** another aspie.


Stupidity explains the world far better than conspiracy.  It's quite delusional to think that there is some kind of active conspiracy against "aspies".

09-25-2006 07:02 PM
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OK, well, I guess you like being bullied?  But not all of us are like that, some of us actually care about our freedom and DONT find it pleasurable to be someones b1tch.


Not in the least, "diddums"--some of us just don't think that the whole world revolves around us.  I realize that you're just a punk kid who refuses to see beyond his own nose, but this is ridiculous.  

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You tell me, do you agree with an entire workplace harrassing someone cause he's an aspie?


Cite the evidence that such harassment actually occurred and you're not just making it all up to fit your fantasies.

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and did you read the news article about me?  How do you explain that?


I read the link you provided.  Quite dry, quite boring.  No portrayal as a "psychopath".  Just one ordinary punk kid.

09-25-2006 07:07 PM
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tell me, what motive would an aspie have to kill anyone?  I would never kill an innocent person, NT or not.


How do you know that the murderer is an "aspie" and doesn't just have a good lawyer?  How do you know that the murderer, even if an "aspie" likewise is not also a sociopath/psychopath?  Can you show me the evidence.  "Aspies" can be complete assholes.  "Aspies" can also be sociopaths.  The two are independent of each other.


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and here again, you dont have the intellegience to think outside the little box of gossip, you still talk according to the media, that I was the bad guy, is that a jelly bean or what.  thats how I can tell whos really low functioning.


Or maybe you don't have the intelligence to see that the entire world doesn't revolve around your teenage angst.

09-25-2006 07:10 PM
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Gareth - actually you know what happened with the charges against me, they were all DROPPED and the other guy got charged with assault!

hmmmm how could that have happened??? Tough question for noctavious or w/e his name is.  maybe, just maybe, because I wasnt the bad guy.


Okay, so now you're just a liar.  You said that YOU were the one being portrayed as "the bad guy" over this matter.  Now you're saying JUST THE OPPOSITE.

So, which is the lie?


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so explain to me, how could I have all the charges dropped, and proved NOT to be the aggressor and the media still talk bad about me?


I read the link you provided--no portrayal, just a very dry account, with nobody identified.

Looks to me like you don't like it that nobody else wants to drink your fine whine.

09-25-2006 07:12 PM
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OK maybe I made a mistake when I said the media is still talking bad about me


No, you lied.  You flat-out lied.

09-25-2006 07:14 PM
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Okay, so now you're just a liar. You said that YOU were the one being portrayed as "the bad guy" over this matter. Now you're saying JUST THE OPPOSITE.


if you were smart enough to 'think past your nose' you would know what I wrote.  I'll have to explain it again.

read the news report what they said, that I used brass knuckles on the "victim" and that I have 4 charges.  but after the court case all the charges on me were dropped and the "victim" was charged with assault.  So in the end, the article was proven wrong, that the "victim" was the bad guy.   Is that easy enough to understand or do I have to waste any more of my time?

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Cite the evidence that such harassment actually occurred and you're not just making it all up to fit your fantasies.


there is no evidence, but he is an aspie so he is not likely to be beleived by anyone.  it's called theorie of mind, I know you suck at it but learn it then you'll be smarter to "think past your nose"

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Stupidity explains the world far better than conspiracy. It's quite delusional to think that there is some kind of active conspiracy against "aspies".


I didnt mean it literaly, I guess I have to explain that too now....

the fact that an aspie can get annoying sometimes would anger some people and they would unconsiously be happy inside that he was gone.

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Ahhhh. So it wasn't self-defence at all


I dont know why I bother trying to explain to you, you just keep coming up with new things, either your really stupid or you don't have a life.

I had both reasons in mind, revenge and self-defense.  did you ever think of that maybe rather then make me waste my time?

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Been bullied--probably worse than you have ever even IMAGINED, boyo.I have the permanently mis-shapen nose and slightly mis-aligned forearm to go with it. So, what's your point, boyo?


then you are entitled to get vengeance on whoever did that.  

thats all I'm trying to explain to you guys, I have no intention what so ever to draw attention to myself, but I have to use so many examples to try to explain to someone who is as low functioning as noctivaJIZZ to understand, that it may look that way if you can't "see beyond your nose"

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Oh so you are prejudiced against people unfortunate to be retarded and crippled... so much so that you wouldn't talk to them? How civil-minded of you.


here we go again, I would talk to them, just not the same way, as in being more elaborate if needed, talking slower only if needed, explaining things more literally if needed,  thats the way I have to talk to you guys, elaborating more, using more examples if you can't understand and so on...

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Oh... a question... What prompted the youth to come all the way to your school just to see you? And unarmed?

What would you have done had he had a gun?


last year, before school was finished I kicked his truck door in, he was harrassing me at the time and I got pissed off....

at the time of the fight he did have big rings on 3 of his fingers on his right hand.

if he would have had a gun I guess I would have most likely been killed, as simple as that.



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Those disgusting, contemptible, ignorant, bigoted statements are completely unacceptable and inexusable. They denigrate mentally challenged people, and wheelchair users. I assume by "they" you are referring to mentally challenged people. They are capable of understanding their native language at the everyday level, if maybe not academic language.


dude, dont even try cause it aint fooling anybody I care about.


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Not in the least, "diddums"--some of us just don't think that the whole world revolves around us.


ummm, I dont see your point, every human has the right not to be bullied.  By saying that, I now think the world revolves around me?  Hint hint - theorie of mind maybe, or major lack of it?  Really low-functioners make up stereotypes like that and it's pretty pathetic.


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I read the link you provided. Quite dry, quite boring. No portrayal as a "psychopath". Just one ordinary punk kid


if you were a little smarter then a retarded monkey you would understand the topic of this post and that I'm not "portraying" anyone as a psychopath.


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No, you lied. You flat-out lied


I have to explain something simple once again....

Anyone can still read that and say "he is the bad guy" and I think they should post an update clearing my name, but they never did, so in my opinion, I saw that as still portraying me as the bad guy.



oh, FYI, I can answer all the questions you throw at me.  You are either too immature or too retarded to actually answer to anything.

it's really ironic, I use examples to try to get Noctivape to understand something that a retarded homo-sapien can understand, then he takes those examples and finds holes in them and tries to cut me down with little success, i've answered all his stupid questions so far at least twice.


But the problem is getting him, or it, I should say, the retarded orangatan (or w/e that is as his picture) to actually understand anything.

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09-26-2006 01:48 AM
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Jason, you kick his door in and then arm yourself up to take revenge on him when he comes looking for you... thus injuring him.

Then you lied to the judge, pleading self-defence... when you were really out for revenge.

Now you come here and try and twist and turn and lie and insult all our intelligences... When you're just one dumb little lying bully yourself.

Aww so the guy 'harrassed' you... oh poor diddums.

You Jason... are just as dumb and bad as the bullies you decry... You knowingly provided the motivation for him to seek you out... and you prepared yourself to injure him... then you got off on a sob story, a clutch of lies and half truths... strewth... there is NOTHING whatsoever admirable or heroic about you.

You are a BULLY, Diddums. Your contempt for the law will one day certainly catch up with you.

'Aww but he was bigger than me!' Aww but you were armed.

09-26-2006 01:59 AM
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you said it yourself, revenge is a natural human instinct,

(guess I'm going to have to explain this too)....he harassed me almost daily through grade 12 and my instinct was revenge so I kicked his door in, on the days of school before that he showed up at my school he began calling me on and making a big scene and shoving me around saying he was going to kill me if he finds out it was me who kicked his door in, that pissed me off wich is why I wanted revenge.  I knew he was going to come the next day and try to fight so I brought the weapon to defend myself.

I would NOT have went out of my way to beat him with a weapon, so the purpose was not entirely revenge.  I acted that way because of distress, and thats why the judge let me off.  

If you can't understand the situation, then your at almost as retarded as you look.

09-26-2006 02:15 AM
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Oh and Jason, dearie... what you confuse for theory of mind is actually Projection... and since you are deluded anyway... what you project is your own delusion.

Three cheers for Diddums... hero in his own imagination.

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you said it yourself, revenge is a natural human instinct,

(guess I'm going to have to explain this too)....he harassed me almost daily through grade 12 and my instinct was revenge so I kicked his door in, on the days of school before that he showed up at my school he began calling me on and making a big scene and shoving me around saying he was going to kill me if he finds out it was me who kicked his door in, that pissed me off wich is why I wanted revenge.  I knew he was going to come the next day and try to fight so I brought the weapon to defend myself.

I would NOT have went out of my way to beat him with a weapon, so the purpose was not entirely revenge.  I acted that way because of distress, and thats why the judge let me off.  

If you can't understand the situation, then your at almost as retarded as you look.


You have no excuses.

You had a beating coming to you by antagonising a bully who had allegedly been harrassing you and you knew it (not that he was right to beat you or harrass you... but then you had no right to vandalise his property or beat him, or insult me) - so you waited for him with a prohibited weapon. There's more of coward than hero in that.

You were both harrassing and knocking each other about. Neither of you had any moral high ground whatsoever. You provoked the guy and he provoked you. Both of you as dumb as each other.

You have NO excuse.

And now all you can do is to attempt to insult me by saying I look retarded. I note you are too cowardly to have your photo up, so we cannot see whether you look more retarded than I do or not.


There is nothing for a retarded person to be ashamed of. A retarded person is undoubtedly a better person than a nasty little thug. I would far sooner be retarded than to be anything like you, Jason.

You are LAUGHABLE in your crass attempts to harrass and insult me. I couldn't give a fig about what you think of me.

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09-26-2006 02:22 AM
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Two can play at saying that sort of thing - lol.


thats why I insulted your photo, look at you, trying to find critisize my story rather then staying on topic.

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Jason_6404 Wrote:
you just proved what I was doing.


Not by you taking me out of context I haven't - lol.

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what exacly have you said usefull in this topic?  trying to find holes in my story to harass and insult me.


All the holes found in your miserable tale have been provided by you yourself. You yourself have revealed all your own lies and deceptions. in the early parts of this thread.

Trying to make yourself out to be the victim, when it was YOU who provoked the fight by kicking in the guys door. It was YOU who prepared yourself with an illegal weapon... and your motive for both vandalising his property and carrying a weapon to harm him was REVENGE - revealed by your own witless hand as the exchange of posts progressed.

You didn't even have the self-control even to maintain your own lie. How hapless is that.

Now you turn to me and say I'm trying to find holes in your story when you have presented all the holes yourself. Is there any BLAME you are not prepared to excuse yourself from by accusing another?

Now we have the matter of you being harrassed, by this individual. One wonders how that came to start... was this more provoking on your part. You don't appear to be a stranger to provoking this particular person. I even get an impression by what you are now writing, that this person may very well be the only person who was 'antagonising' you. (That's just an impression - it may not be the case, but equally it might be).

So to return to the beginning of this conversation. You presume 'buddy' was in the right when he stabbed his former supervisor to death for being involved in his dismissal for bad behaviour.

Herein we see your basic attitude. And we see that you have carried out this similar attitude of revenge in your real life also.

You are not hero and you are not victim - you are a perpetrator.

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Oh you completely changed your post while I was replying to it. Ah well. I read it as it originally stood - and preserved it in the quotes above.

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Two can play at saying that sort of thing - lol.


thats why I insulted your photo, look at you, trying to find critisize my story rather then staying on topic.


Now in reply to your edited post....

It just shows your purile mentality.

'Urr... I said you looked like a retard because you went off topic'

Oh - lol. So its my fault you said I looked like a retard.

You are the one who provided the ammunition against your own lie (story), by revealing how you were trying to mislead us originally in telling us you were a victim only trying to defend yourself in the face of a bully.

Now we know you were acting like a thug motivated by revenge. All revealed by you, yourself.

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OK, I tried my best, but if you try to train the dog over and over again and it still dosent listen, then it's hopeless, as the case with noctivagus.  I am finished wasting my time with him.

As for what he said about me, whatever you do noc as with posting up nasty pictures, never, ever post up pictures of your wife, I can just imagine how nasty she is by looking at you.  I can see it looking something like this - http://www.mhhe.com/socscience/anthropol...606bta.jpg

and if your children are like you, homeschool them, they wouldnt last a day in a NT high school without getting their asses kicked.


This is the last post I have in this topic

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OK, I tried my best, but if you try to train the dog over and over again and it still dosent listen, then it's hopeless, as the case with noctivagus. I am finished wasting my time with him.

As for what he said about me, whatever you do noc as with posting up nasty pictures, never, ever post up pictures of your wife, I can just imagine how nasty she is by looking at you. I can see it looking something like this - http://www.mhhe.com/socscience/anthropol...606bta.jpg

and if your children are like you, homeschool them, they wouldnt last a day in a NT high school without getting their asses kicked.


This is the last post I have in this topic


Well, insulting my wife and children is totally below the belt.

Just as with your 'bully'/victim, you just don't fight fair.

Yes, you give your best shot to try and hurt me (previous shots having failed), and then you flee.

How pathetic.

You can't get an angle to bully me, and so you pick on my wife and children.

Oh how just and righteous you are.

Ooooo my hero - ROTFLOL

Fly away fragile petal...

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