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I did write my case in a "coherent pattern", I just tried to change it because you didnt seem to be understanding like any other human would.

09-24-2006 11:25 PM
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...but if you cant understand the point, then theres no use talking to you. it's like talking to a mentally challenged in a wheelchair.


Oh so you are prejudiced against people unfortunate to be retarded and crippled... so much so that you wouldn't talk to them? How civil-minded of you.

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...but I guess you cant give a straight answer either like any your answers.


I cannot be held responsible for the fact you have not the wit to understand my answers to you. lol. Two can play at saying that sort of thing - lol.

You, my witless friend, have only respect for yourself. You think the world owes you. It may be news to you, but the world owes you nothing.

It is surprising you still feel so hard done by since you are a revered local hero now... lol  :lol:  :roll: ...Like I believe that. Maybe a few are somewhat gleeful that you got off after illegally carrying an offensive weapon.

You cannot claim innocence even if you did get let off... since you yourself admit point blank that you have illegally carried a weapon and landed another person into hospital. Self defence is beside the point... you were carrying the offensive weapon BEFORE the incident. And here in the thread... even in your slight reversal, you still condone the murder of a woman.

All I see here is a youth revelling in his own notoriaty and clapping himself on the back while praising a murderer.

09-24-2006 11:37 PM
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I did write my case in a "coherent pattern", I just tried to change it because you didnt seem to be understanding like any other human would.


You presented the police article and mentioned nothing about the subsequent court case. Then when the article you mentioned was read not in your favour... you turn around and rant like a spoilt brat about unfair media and gossip.

You idiot. You posted the link and without any provision except that you were carrying in self defence.

You attacked an unarmed youth (although bigger than you) with a weapon - FACT.

It was illegal for you to be carrying such an offensive weapon - FACT.

You praised a murderer for killing somebody - FACT.

So you got off, eh. Well bully for you.  :roll: You should count yourself lucky the other guy only got lacerations because you were inefficient with your weapon. Most people would have broken his nose at least - even if not so competant with the weapon. You wouldn't have got off so lightly then, one would hope.

09-24-2006 11:44 PM
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The police charged you with the following...

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Carrying a Concealed Weapon, Possess a Prohibited Weapon, Possess a Dangerous Weapon, and Assault with a Weapon.


Regardless of the mitigating circumstances which quite obviously is what you got off on... you were guilty on all counts as you in this thread have admitted.

    You were carrying concealed brass knuckles.
    You possessed brass knuckles which are prohibited.
    You possessed brass knuckles which are dangerous.
    You assaulted a person with said brass knuckles.

Guilty. Guilty. Guilty. On all charges guilty. Mitigating circumstance, that you were apparently the victim of bullying.

You may have got off... but you have said yourself in this thread that you were guilty of ALL the charges the police charged you with.

Lessons learned by you. None.

Your attitude towards the victim of the murder which report opened this thread is DISGUSTING.

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GSPS investigated a disturbance Thursday 15 September at 2:50 p.m. at a local High School.

An altercation occurred between two 17-year-old males, students of different High Schools.


A question for you. The local High School where this fight happened... was it YOUR school or the High School attended by the other youth?

If the latter... what were you doing at somebody else's school?

09-24-2006 11:56 PM
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understand your answers lol?  if your more pre-occupied that the media had a dry day over the fact that your life is screwed because of something you didnt do then there is a problem "LOL".  

The world owes me? try to find a quote where I said that lol.

as for the mental in a wheelchair, I was comparing it to you, not talking bad about it, ok, so I used a bad example, the bottom line is that they cant understand our language and neither can you as you can read by what you've been saying.  I am in no way prejudiced against them, I would take care of them, help them, do anything for them, I just wouldnt waste my time trying to have a conversation with them because it wouldnt go nowhere, as you can see I have to explain everything I say for you to understand, just cant get the big picture, gotta find mistakes in the details because you cant think of anything else to b1tch about.

Maybe in the UK or in your time, the 70s things were different but where I come from and in my time, aspie or not we have rights and the right to express our opinion AND the right to live.  look at you, your a skinhead, I never said anything about that.  thats your opinion.

09-25-2006 12:10 AM
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again, I already explained that to you that I wasnt the one who attacked the other guy, so thats not a fact.   I defended, not attacked

the reason why I had the weapon is because I knew I was getting jumped, ok so that is a fact, but that can be dropped because of distress.

actually I did break his nose and gave him a 2mm fractured skull and internall bleeding in his eye and I tore a chunk off his ear, they just didnt post it at the time because it wasnt confirmed.


parising a murderer had nothing to do with getting off.

I'm sure a lot of people who were victims of the 9/11 attacks would praise the murder of osama bin laden so you cant count out 5000+ people.

FYI it was a my school and he showed up in an attempt to jump me and I anticipated it.  thats another reason why I got off, because he came to MY school to get to me, he is the reason why I changed schools in the first place.

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09-25-2006 12:18 AM
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what would you do, if you were jumped by someone twice your size and you were stuck in a wheelchair for the rest of your life and the law did ***-all about it?  lol you wouldnt be "ROTFLOL" then.

09-25-2006 12:25 AM
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actually I did break his nose and gave him a 2mm fractured skull and internall bleeding in his eye and I tore a chunk off his ear, they just didnt post it at the time because it wasnt confirmed.


Oh my hero!

What a shining example you are to us all!

Isn't sarcasm a wonderful thing?

Oh, and FYI, I am not, nor ever have been a skinhead regardless of the fact that I have shaved my head in the past. I shaved my head because it is more comfortable in light of a scalp condition I have.

09-25-2006 01:00 AM
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what would you do, if you were jumped by someone twice your size and you were stuck in a wheelchair for the rest of your life and the law did f***-all about it?  lol you wouldnt be "ROTFLOL" then.


I would have to live with that fact and hopefully have the guts to do so.

I would seek to defend myself, but I would not be carrying a weapon.

09-25-2006 01:04 AM
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Oh... a question... What prompted the youth to come all the way to your school just to see you? And unarmed?

What would you have done had he had a gun?

09-25-2006 01:06 AM
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The real reason why I did that was for revenge, and that is the same reason why buddy acted out with a knife, you are entitled to your own opinion saying revenge is wrong, but in my view, if there is just cause revenge is perfectly acceptable, but ONLY if there is just cause, as in my case.

you can say it is wrong but look at what the law does, someone causes harm, so the law takes revenge by locking them up in a cell, giving them probation, or even killing them by lethal injection/electric chair/hanging/lethal gas.

what complicates our situation is that in the case with aspies the law dosent work for them.

09-25-2006 01:07 AM
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I'm sure a lot of people who were victims of the 9/11 attacks would praise the murder of osama bin laden so you cant count out 5000+ people.


That's beside the point regarding your sentiments for the murderer in an entirely unrelated case.

You have not been murdered by the woman he murdered. Indeed, she had not murdered anybody.

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The real reason why I did that was for revenge...


Ahhhh. So it wasn't self-defence at all. I wonder what the judge would have said had you been honest with him.

Jason_6404 Wrote:
The real reason why I did that was for revenge, and that is the same reason why buddy acted out with a knife, you are entitled to your own opinion saying revenge is wrong, but in my view, if there is just cause revenge is perfectly acceptable, but ONLY if there is just cause, as in my case.


You are PRESUMING that 'buddy' was sacked wrongly. That is a presumption on your part.

The case is that he was fired because of bad behaviour (towards a customer - if memory serves me). He then goes out, purchases a knife, and kills his ex-supervisor. You obviously believe 'buddy' had just cause to commit MURDER.

So, if you get sacked by an employer and you think he/she is wrong to do so... you would consider yourself justified in taking revenge by killing said employer? Is that so?

09-25-2006 01:16 AM
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It's not even revenge, it's escalation.

That's why gang's end up in wars all the time. One guy "disrespects" another guy, he in "revenge" beats him up, his victim's friends then in "revenge" gang beat him, before you know it, someone ends up dead.

That's not the right way to solve anything, and it only gets you "respect" from other people who buy into the concept;and that respect only lasts as long as you can keep escalating it, eventually they - or you - miss a step, and end up on the recieving end of someone elses "revenge".  THAT is why I think you'll find most Aspies who get bullied don't fight back, because if you fight back the only way you can win, is keep winning for as long as you're in the situation or you'll get hurt ten times worse than if you'd just turned the other cheek.

Revenge can never validate killing someone, not even murder (See example "The Middle East", "Africa", "American ghettos" - they've been killing each other for revenge for donkeys years, and look at the state they're in), heck, revenge can never be validated, period. It just doesn't achieve anything, only escalates the situation.


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09-25-2006 04:19 AM
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Jason_4604,  you wrote:


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"but if you cant understand the point then theres no use talking to you,  it's like talking to a mentally challenged in a whelchair."

"as for the mental in a wheelchair...the bottom line is that they cant understand our language."


Those disgusting, contemptible, ignorant,  bigoted statements are completely unacceptable and inexusable.   They denigrate mentally challenged people, and wheelchair users.   I assume by "they"  you are referring to mentally challenged people.   They are capable of understanding their native language at the everyday level,  if maybe not academic language.

There are autistic people who have been diagnosed as 'mentally retarded',  but who write intelligently and eloquently.  

There is good in you,  Jason and I really hope that you discover it,  and that you  will come to be ashamed and disgusted at your action in carrying an offensive weapon and injuring  someone with it,  and justifying it and glorifying in it;  also your condoning  murder and your remarks which I have quoted above,  and that you will repudiate those actions and attitudes.


"Thoughts and words are necessary to help us open to the experience of truth.  But they can never be truth itself."   Simon Small - 'From the bottom of the pond:  The forgotten art of experiencing God in the depths of the present moment'.    
09-25-2006 01:57 PM
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