Who cares how people look?
It's behaviour that matters, chavs are a group defined by behaviours and not appearance - they do share a lot in common appearance-wise, but it's the behaviour that matters not the style of dress.

More than half of the "jokes" on this thread are related to the stereotypical looks of "chavs."  Hence, I would disagree that they are a group defined entirely by behaviors, not appearance.  The photo of the man missing a tooth has nothing to do with his style of dress, either.

How do you identify them by behavior alone?  If that were the case, they'd simply be criminals, no stereotypical name needed.

Read again: "they do share a lot in common appearance-wise". It is not however their apperance that makes them worthy of scorn, but their behaviour.

So who exactly do these "chavs" share an appearance with?  The other people (the so-called non-"chavs") in this thread who are being made fun of based on their appearance?

Let me get this correct.  You're scorning the "chavs" for their stereotypical "criminal" behavior, and you're scorning the non-"chavs", the regular folks, because they look like "chavs."

err, no - chavs do have a certain style/apperance, but that is not why they are objects of scorn. I don't care if someone happens to look like a chav (other than perhaps thinking they have poor taste in clothing, but their choice), I do care if someone actually is one.

I see; the commonality is within the group itself, not with another group.  However, the fact remains that the jokes in here are about the appearances of people.  Again, that's in bad form.

Also, the main point is totally being lost.  Why spew more hate and why stereotype an entire group of people?  It doesn't solve a thing.  Understanding doesn't come from hate, and it never will.  

Obviously, anyone who comes here to offer a differing viewpoint is not going to be given due consideration.  The few other people who made negative comments about this thread were shot down, as well. 

It's a pity, really.  This thread is just as insular and filled with negativity as those so-called "chavs." 

Polkadots is making valid points here, and I don't really see that there is much, if anything, to defend in this thread.

A group of people known for being abusive and violent deserve hatred. I can also understand precisely why they are this way (multiple reasons, the "oh no, difference" effect, simple immaturity, enjoyment (i.e they enjoy abusing others), material gain (in the case of theft), trying to make their mark and assert themselves (hence graffiti and trying to put down others), multiple reasons....).

None of these reasons excuse the behaviour though, and it is quite appropriate to hate people for this.

Well, if you want to defend a group which has caused a lot of direct suffering, don't be surprised if you find disagreement.

As I said, at least for myself i'm proud to be prejudiced against criminals - hating people like this is something that any decent human being should be "guilty" of. It is absolutely foolish to defend a particular group against all criticism merely because "they're different, just like us" when the differences are the reasons for the criticism.

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Well, if you scout around the thread you will find my opinion on this the word 'chav' is racialy offensive when used in this pajorative context.

loosley grouping people together is sterotyping and equaly as offensive especialy when it is done to abuse and ridicule them!

a quote from the home page:

To oppose all forms of prejudice and bigotry.

and this 'Chavs' thing is without a doubt a contradiction of both of these aims!

Sorry I have to agree that Chavs where I come from ( Hull ) have serious Sociopathic and Phycopathic charactor defects. And i'm talking about the real Chavs, not the tag alongs who usally branch off later in life. I wont even begin to tell you some of the storys i've heard about them because they would scar you for life. And on that note I will tell you this joke that sprang to mind - ' what do you do if you see a gang of closited chavs walking down the street? Lock up your sons or start digging the graves!!! ' lol

Danty's your not making it any more acceptable, please help me out by defining a real chav and one who has had the label applied?

A real Chav - takes great pride and gratification on inflicting serious harm on other people. There victems are usally weaker than them. Impulsive and manipulative, impulsive in the sence that one might think '' lets go nick that ford focus '' with totall disrigard for the consiquences. Manipulative in the sence that one might come up to you in the street asking to '' lend a quid '' and then use emotional blackmail if told no, An example of this would be '' aw come on 'mate' my little brothers been sleeping in the park all night and we need to get him home '' (quoted from one encountor) they usally like to listen to mc'ing ( alot of disjointed beats with and mc 'singing' over the music intersperced with snipets of old happy hardcore ) this music usally gloryfies defing the rules and laws of society. I remember one such example with lirics that went like this '' drugs dont kill people, rappers do, and i'm a rapper and I might kill you '' They like to where big coats with the userall trends such as Henry loyd and Fred perry. This gives them a sence of belonging and also a sence of emporerment as they feel like a part of a special group where the rules don't apply to them. Now I will go onto the ' tag along chav ' these children/teenagers ( I must emphasise children and teenagers as this is more of a trend in these cases) usally have a brother or relative who is a clasic Chav. These ' tag along chavs ' are usally in ore of there more clasic chav counterparts, and thus will usally get involved in petty crime. They feel they have a sence of connection of this ' special group ' and a sence of protection. Unfortunatley there (usally older) classic ( anti-sosial personality orientated ) Chavs will use these ' tag alongs ' to push drugs and weapons, usally in the form of a ' run ' which involves carrying the offending item from A to B. This is not the case for all as many will be content on the occasional underage drinking binges, drug use, and most importantly 'smokeing behind the school bike sheds*.' I will now use ' * ' as a model of reflection between the classic chav and the tag along chav. The classic chav feels a sence of empowerment by defying the rules by smokeing behind that bike shed, the tag along chave will usally feel a sence of freedom and maturity by doing this, and thus you have the corrolation between the too. The tag along chav usally develops into a normal adult male or female, that is if they havent become addicted to drugs. They are usally found in lower class working employment due to them focussing more on social issues during there teenage years than on study. On an end note the Chav era can be regarded as a futuristick version of the 70's punks. ( Bows and goes of stage )

A real Chav - takes great pride and gratification on inflicting serious harm on other people. There victems are usally weaker than them. Impulsive and manipulative, impulsive in the sence that one might think '' lets go nick that ford focus '' with totall disrigard for the consiquences. Manipulative in the sence that one might come up to you in the street asking to '' lend a quid '' and then use emotional blackmail if told no, An example of this would be '' aw come on 'mate' my little brothers been sleeping in the park all night and we need to get him home '' (quoted from one encountor) they usally like to listen to mc'ing ( alot of disjointed beats with and mc 'singing' over the music intersperced with snipets of old happy hardcore ) this music usally gloryfies defing the rules and laws of society. I remember one such example with lirics that went like this '' drugs dont kill people, rappers do, and i'm a rapper and I might kill you '' They like to where big coats with the userall trends such as Henry loyd and Fred perry. This gives them a sence of belonging and also a sence of emporerment as they feel like a part of a special group where the rules don't apply to them. Now I will go onto the ' tag along chav ' these children/teenagers ( I must emphasise children and teenagers as this is more of a trend in these cases) usally have a brother or relative who is a clasic Chav. These ' tag along chavs ' are usally in ore of there more clasic chav counterparts, and thus will usally get involved in petty crime. They feel they have a sence of connection of this ' special group ' and a sence of protection. Unfortunatley there (usally older) classic ( anti-sosial personality orientated ) Chavs will use these ' tag alongs ' to push drugs and weapons, usally in the form of a ' run ' which involves carrying the offending item from A to B. This is not the case for all as many will be content on the occasional underage drinking binges, drug use, and most importantly 'smokeing behind the school bike sheds*.' I will now use ' * ' as a model of reflection between the classic chav and the tag along chav. The classic chav feels a sence of empowerment by defying the rules by smokeing behind that bike shed, the tag along chave will usally feel a sence of freedom and maturity by doing this, and thus you have the corrolation between the too. The tag along chav usally develops into a normal adult male or female, that is if they havent become addicted to drugs. They are usally found in lower class working employment due to them focussing more on social issues during there teenage years than on study. On an end note the Chav era can be regarded as a futuristick version of the 70's punks. ( Bows and goes of stage )

Dantys  sorry if this sounds rude but it is just made up opinionated waffle! the term 'chav' is offensive on a number of levels, many of which have been adressed in other threads.

As far as I am concerned this posting just proves my point and to be honest i am worn out with trying to point this out to people, with luck the media and their 'sheep' will find a new stereotype to label a new group of people with and we can all forget this sad episdode and move on!

'tag along' and 'special group' arent these the very things that people are doing by finding lables to apply and then looking for victims to fit them?

real 'Chav's' are offended and it is to them an etho-slur and a racialy based insult to associate them with the things you mention!

I am leaving this subject there and if people being offended isnt enough to prevent this umplesant tren then lets hope you get more sympathy if you are ever offended by media sterotyping and bigotry!

Unfortunately Tinkadill you do not seem to see this point as well.

Chavs are disliked because they do cause a lot of trouble

Most of the bigotry towards aspies and autistics come from them.

not being funny but after being referred to as "the spaz crew" by a bunch of chavs Im not going to be all that supportive of them.

Chavs cause lots of problems.

the majority of them being Teenage pregnancies, Drug use , vandalism and alcohol abuse.

not to mention the amount of psychical and verbal abuse they inlflict.

Chavs are not nice "people" FULL F*cking STOP.

I remember a goth girl being beaten TO DEATH by a group of male chavs because she was a goth....

and we should be repesctful of them and not call them chavs why?

Chavs are basically scum.

admittedally there are some nice people who happen to be chavs but there are unfortunately very few.

oh another point to make

A friend of mine worked in a specialist nursery (pre-schoolers with special needs I.e Down syndrome , LFA and etc) and there was one kid who I think had Cerebal Palsy the parents where chavs.

The parents would take the cerebal palsy child home and lock the poor kid his/her bedroom while they took the "normal" kid out.

This is the most common behaviour exhibited by Chavs they would do this to their own CHILDREN

So as far as I'm concerened insult the mother f*c*ing chavs till your hearts content.