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gwynfryn



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Re: Speaking of which

TheASman Wrote:
And  using that term they are including mental retardation which is non autistic!!

In other words They refuse to believe they are on a spectrum too. Just not our spectrum.  Their low functioning members are the mentally retardants. Nopw the high functioning retards as like to call NTs, are subtly trying to undermine our unity.


That's my exact point!!! Autism has nothing to do with retardation. Most of the brightest and most able people are highly autistic. So why are you guys trying to insist it's the same thing. I'm not trying to undermine unity, I'm just trying to promote clarity.

I'm fully aware of how most, even within the medical profession, are misusing this word, but why must we do the same?

Gareth, to say you are autistic is essentially meaningless, every one has autism as a component of their innate personality. How much it manifests is a question of how dominant (or not) it is. Autism is not caused by brain damage. A lot of the problems now considered "autistic" clearly are caused by such, due to oxygen deprivation or physical trauma (or maybe even mercury poisoning etc?). They have nothing to do with the classic understanding of autism.

This distinction isn't difficult to grasp so what is the big problem?

11-15-2004 03:54 PM
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