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Perhaps once we have the technology, we should build Aspergia on the moon. Perfect place for a new country without war, hard to infulence, perfect place to launch tactical bombardment...what?

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I still like the idea of Antarctica, (really!) but I don't know if it's even possible to buy land there.  We'd have to build underground, of course, and grow food in hydroponic gardens, but then most of us are hyper-sensitive to sunlight anyway, so that wouldn't be a problem.  We could use a combination of geothermal, wind generation and probably some form of hydroelectrical generation for power. Or during the summer, just hook up the solar generators - 24 hour a day sunshine for six months! There are supposed to be at current stats around 20 million people with Aspergers in the population; if everyone kicks in 10-100 dollars, we could do it!
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Perhaps people should focus on realistic immediate goals




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On Antartica, its one of the most hostile environments on the planet, and there are strong restrictions on waste there, everything has to be removed that is taken there, including human waste.

The cost would be phenomenal.



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Amy Wrote:
On Antartica, its one of the most hostile environments on the planet, and there are strong restrictions on waste there, everything has to be removed that is taken there, including human waste.

The cost would be phenomenal.


If we set up sovereignty, we would of course make our own restrictions on what is to be done with waste.  Of course, by the time any of this could happen, our technology, including that regarding recycling would be a lot more advanced.  I'd look for advances in general material efficiency, decreased time of processing, perhaps by biological means.  As a matter of fact, even today, it's not impossible to cycle products through, provided you make them out of the right materials; so another idea would be finding a way to apply those materials to areas that are currently impossible.  

As Alison said, we'll combat the cold by building underground.  We will also wear very large coats.  Hydroponics sounds liek a good idea, I suppose it is more efficient than growing things in dirt, no?  Never really looked into it.  If it's not, we can clear an area of dirt, install grow-lights and diversion channels for icemelt.  Perhaps we can engineer some really hard-core cold-hardiness into corn, for instance, or any number of other things.  Also, during the summer I think it would be possible to save energy by replacing the growlights with fiber-optic light collectors, and simply beam it in.  

As for energy, biodiesel would definitely occupy a significant area as well.


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Gareth Wrote:
Perhaps people should focus on realistic immediate goals

Precendents such as gated communities and techno and homovillages abound.  Perfectly do-able.

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Meh, I'm a science-fiction/fantasy writer when I'm not wiping kiddies noses and bottoms!  I need to escape into fantasy occasionally in those sort of circumstances.
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john cranberrysauce Wrote:

Gareth Wrote:
Perhaps people should focus on realistic immediate goals

Precendents such as gated communities and techno and homovillages abound.  Perfectly do-able.


Gareth wasn't commenting on the whole idea, only on having a community in Antartica.



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I do not think a community on Antartica is feasible.  It is too isolated and unless some very effecient form of energy or means of producing food is availabe, a huge amount of money and energy would be wasted on transporting supplies and waste out the community.   I think also any long term and sizable colony on Antartica would be damaging ecologically.  I know there are bases set up there already but most of the people there are scientists studying the ecological system/weather there.  

Does anyone know more about the research bases on Antartica?

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There would be another practical problem; getting people to move there. It's an interesting idea to think about, but it presents too many problems.


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We are working on a site to explore all the various options in regard to a true offline community. However, i'll say now that a moon base or antartica is looking quite unrealistic  :lol:

The group holiday we have planned for september, as I have previously mentioned is a good first step. There are other ideas which are within the realm of possiblities too.......

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I do not think a community on Antartica is feasible.It is too isolated and unless some very effecient form of energy or means of producing food is availabe, a huge amount of money and energy would be wasted on transporting supplies and waste out the community.

I think also any long term and sizable colony on Antartica would be damaging ecologically.I know there are bases set up there already but most of the people there are scientists studying the ecological system/weather there.

Does anyone know more about the research bases on Antartica?

Only that conditions are very extreme. Pipes would break open frequently due to the very coldness of the place. I've read about towns in Alaska that have serious problems with pipes and with getting enough water to houses.

I think the houses would probably have to be Igloos or similar.

There must be somewhere that is not so cold but not really boiling hot either. I've read about people buying small uninhabited Islands but it's usually just been a single person or a small family who have done it and it is a lot of very hard work. There has to be some way to keep the situation sustainable as generally it is quite expensive to bring in supplies.

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RE: Homeland - the difference is money

necro-bump....I saw that program ,or one similar. I believe this is the construction that Dubai defaulted on recently. what was it 64 billion. Supposedly the arab nations all contributed to a fund to rescue it.


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skyblue1  Wrote:
necro-bump....I saw that program ,or one similar. I believe this is the construction that Dubai defaulted on recently. what was it 64 billion. Supposedly the arab nations all contributed to a fund to rescue it.

Whereas one English beach has been valued at just one quid! Eype


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