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Bye bye milk

I stopped all dairy products two weeks ago after trying and failing many times. This time I stopped because i went to my naturopath all screwed up with joint pain and very badly behaved. She told me off for drinking milk.
So i went home and poured it down the sink. I did not buy anymore. I felt very hungry and sad for the next four days. Then I had indigestion all the time. I thought I must be crazy. But I noticed I was not having hypoglycaemia problems. And i was making meals that looked like other peoples. ( yes very strange) I even felt like using utensils.
The last three days the indigestion has eased and I feel quite a bit steadier than I have done for a while, maybe forever.  I feel very proud of myself. Maybe I can give up the smoking and the caffiene too. I also don't have too many cereals.

Here is a yummy recipe I made last night that I think even other people would like.
Chicken breast thinly sliced and marinaded in couple T of mediterranean relish made of:
dried tomato, onion, zucchini, olives, vinegar, olive oil, real fresh pepper and salt.
A couple handfuls of those orange lentils that cook really quick.
More onions and handful of sunflower seeds.
Cook everything together and throw in the chicken last until just cooked.

I am sure Stella would be able to tell me how to make sure the chicken does not go chewy but i always am worried when i cook chicken so i cook it a lot.

Instead of milky drinks I have been having lots of soupy things with lentils and sunflower/pumpkin seeds and corn/rice lately. They have been really yummy.
Does anyone else cook without milk or cereals?
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03-03-2006 06:17 AM
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I am lactose intolerant so never eat dairy foods. I don't miss them as I don't like them and have not had them since being a baby.



03-03-2006 01:15 PM
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I tried going off dairy but it did not improve anything.  

Going off carbohydrates totally is just awful.  We tried Southbeach diet and nearly went mad.  

You should try adding in some nuts too.  A good snack is 6 almonds.
We make a Sri Lankan pancake that is a batter of ground up lentil and rice.  You can use rice flour but it is expensive.  To grind up rice in a blender, soak rice in twice the amount of cold water overnight.  Drain and rinse it and put it is the blender and add as much cold water to run the blender.  When it looks like milk it is blended enough.  Strain through a fine seive.  I also soak, drain and grind the lentils the same way.  Then I add some more water and yeast to make a fermented pancake batter.  
Chickpea/garbanzo bean/besan flour is good for making pancakes.  You just mix with cold water, a little salt and let it sit for about 30 minutes before frying up pancakes.  It is very very filling.    You could also make polenta with corn meal.  It takes great, very filling and great with fried vegetables like onions, peppers.  

here are plenty of free recipes on the net that are wheat/dairy free.

03-03-2006 03:58 PM
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I have done a diet with no carbs and found it easy and felt happy with it.

The only problem is that its awkward to make family meals.



03-03-2006 04:31 PM
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Just out of interest, those of you who have given up dairy products, where do you get your calcium from? This is not a criticism, I am genuinly interested as I'm trying to go vegan. I'm not having much luck with the vegan thing partly because having tried vegan chocolate I discovered its foul!
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04-03-2006 12:32 PM
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If vegan no meat, no chicken, no fish, no dairy, no eggs?  

Tofu has calcium  Some vegetables have calcium:  brocholli   but you have to eat lots of vegetables.  Some people are vegetarians and just eat alot of potatoes, rice and starches so they are fat and unhealthy.

04-03-2006 05:35 PM
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I'm already vegetarian, and I must say I'm neither fat or unhealthy. But fair enough, I didn't know Tofu had calcium in it.
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04-03-2006 07:08 PM
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"Tofu is made by adding a calcium or magnesium salt to soy milk. The calcium or magnesium salt mixes with the protein in the soy milk to form a curd. (When tofu is made with calcium salt, calcium becomes an essential component. Not all tofu is made with a calcium salt, however, so you do need to read the label.)"

04-03-2006 10:00 PM
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I'm making tofu ice cream tomorrow... banana and maple syrup. small boy will be wild with delight.

although the fattening tooth decaying things in the ice cream will more than cancel out the goodness of the tofu... darn it....

why are yummy things always so unhealthy!


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Sods law? lol
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04-04-2006 12:40 PM
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I made soup yesterday with tofu in it.
Hot and Sour soup.

broth of your choice
chopped ginger root
chopped green onion
we use small scrimps
extra firm tofu cut up into cubes
vinegar and hot sauce to taste
you could also add small sliced vegetables:  carrots, mushrooms

The tofu absorbs the flavour.

Tofu is good marinated but I have not been too successful at this.  I have not got the marinate recipe too refined nor the marinating time.  The idea is to marinate the tofu until it picks up the flavours and then fry it.

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The important thing to remember about food is that we are NOT always what we eat. We are what our bodies digest. If your body does not deal with milk you are not going to get nutrients from it.
Milk is a product of the advertising industry. We buy the message on the packaging. We also buy the method by which the product is produced. We buy the food the cows swallow, the chemicals on that food, the chemicals given to the the cow, we buy the green grass and the happy animals shown on the advertisements. We buy the message that we must have lots of calcium to have strong bones. We buy the message that milk is the ONLY way.
We do need calcium. But in excess it can cause kidney stones and calcification of muscle tissue. You can get it from the average diet really. The milk message is a bit OTT.
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04-05-2006 05:42 AM
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So true.  I really laugh when I see the tv commercial that says Kraft dinner (dry macaroni in a box with powdered processed cheese) is a good source of calcium.  

My husband takes so many supplements that I am wondering about what all the filling agents of the pills are doing to his digestive tract.

04-05-2006 05:17 PM
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Its probably had calcium added specially lol
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04-05-2006 09:46 PM
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becca Wrote:
The important thing to remember about food is that we are NOT always what we eat. We are what our bodies digest. If your body does not deal with milk you are not going to get nutrients from it.
Milk is a product of the advertising industry. We buy the message on the packaging. We also buy the method by which the product is produced. We buy the food the cows swallow, the chemicals on that food, the chemicals given to the the cow, we buy the green grass and the happy animals shown on the advertisements. We buy the message that we must have lots of calcium to have strong bones. We buy the message that milk is the ONLY way.
We do need calcium. But in excess it can cause kidney stones and calcification of muscle tissue. You can get it from the average diet really. The milk message is a bit OTT.
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You're making milk sound like the risks of overdose outweigh its healthiness. Technically that is propaganda, and misleading propaganda at that (yes, there is such a thing as non-misleading propaganda). The truth is that just about any food causes problems in overdoes. For example, carrots. Good source of Vitamin A. But no, don't eat them because too much will make your skin turn orange. It doesn't matter that it would take hundreds of carrots per day to achieve that effect...


The truth is that milk is an important part of the diet, and it can be very difficult to get the reccomended calcium portion without it. And getting calcium in places where it has been added does not work as well.

04-05-2006 10:45 PM
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