From my limited experience teaching sunday school, the kids with Attention problems do sometimes cause interuptions with the teacher but they just have to be kept busy - not expected to sit still and listen for twenty minutes at a time. They just can not do it. The worst kid is just a "smart-***" with no problems learning that I could tell. He would start poking or bullying the other kids. The little smart-*** thought that if he was bad enough, he would be sent out of class. Of course he would rather be playing or watching tv at home than having to do any work. I caught on to that. So if he couldn't stop hitting someone else, then he could stand facing the corner for a while. I let him know that his behaviour was his choice.
I have heard some of my teacher friends describe Aspies as the perfect victims for bullies. I was violent in school. I remember at age five, the principal being called in for my temper tantrums. I also smacked other kids, usually boys. By the next year, I had learned to control my tantrums and did not get violent with other kids unless provoked.
My parents taught me to ignore verbal taunts or give back a much wittier response. Any physical assault was to be returned twice as hard. If some kid hit me first, I would hit them back twice and hard. Most kids did not mess with me or my siblings. I do remember two incidents that happened when I was thirteen as a teacher witnessed. A boy took my hat and put it on top of a pole. I judo flipped him and he got my hat back. Another time, I was enduring the usual verbal assault by a girl when I just had enough. I tipped her and her desk over in front of the class and teacher. The teacher did not comment. The girl never talked to me again. If any of that had happened today, I would have been expelled from school because of zero tolerance of violence policies. I would have ended up going to a school full of violent bullying kids, with me, as the perfect victim.
As for the rod spoiled child thing. The image is a shepherd guiding the sheep with his rod - not the shepherd spanking his sheep with a stick. I have heard all the arguments about this. The threat of punishment works for some kids. Any parent who has to spank their kids more than twice a year is doing something wrong. Spanking in anger can easily go too far for some people and end up in abuse.
Kids need to have a set of expected behaviours and concequences for misbehaviour and they have to be able to understand them. They have to learn to reckonize that they have the choice to behave as they do. Kids can learn to recognize when they are feeling like they are going to lose control. Too many kids have learned that they can get away with misbehaviour because they do not get caught or punished when they do get caught.
It is stupid parents who do not have any rules at home that cause most problems. So come into my class and I have rules and everyone better obey them. I would not touch a child but after a while they are going to be convinced that it is much better choice to obey the rules.