|
Cliqueness
|
| Author |
Message |
gx99
Posts: 6
Group: Registered
Joined: Oct 2012
Status:
Offline
|
Cliqueness
So one thing that's been getting me down about the NTs is how cliquey they are. It seems that once they settle into their little groups, they dont want to know you at all, especially if you're a little bit different.
It's so hard to break people out of their cliques, or break into cliques, seems so pointless as well, and as usual there is never any help available from anyone.
If you go up to people and they basically give you the cold shoulder, that makes you the bad person for not trying hard enough. It's literally never their fault whatever they do. I'm sick of these NTs and their crap.
|
|
| 10-21-2012 11:42 PM |
|
 |
skyblue1
Activist
  
Posts: 21,032
Group: Activists
Joined: Jan 2008
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
We do not bash NT`s here.
A rant is fine.
Please try not to carry it any farther than that.
Keep in mind any neurotype can be cliquish
Welcome aboard
I'm not anti-social; I'm just not user friendly
|
|
| 10-21-2012 11:51 PM |
|
 |
marioluvsfries
Unregistered
|
RE: Cliqueness
Keep in mind any neurotype can be cliquish
Don't I know .....
|
|
| 10-22-2012 12:29 AM |
|
 |
142857
Posts: 6,365
Group: Registered
Joined: May 2010
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
You got it right - it is pointless. Let it go. Be the best that you can be. Treat them politely and with respect, be the better person.
|
|
| 10-22-2012 12:50 AM |
|
 |
Smurfy
Posts: 121
Group: Registered
Joined: Oct 2012
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
You got it right - it is pointless. Let it go. Be the best that you can be. Treat them politely and with respect, be the better person.
As a kid it was different dealing with other kids, but as an adult I have found that the best way to get along is to treat everyone with courtesy and respect.
You will still run across some assholes now and then, but people who know you to be a polite and respectful person will blame them for starting the problem. In the long run you win.
Your Aspie score: 147 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 64 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
This post was last modified: 10-22-2012 08:28 AM by Smurfy.
|
|
| 10-22-2012 08:27 AM |
|
 |
nialll
Posts: 4,174
Group: Registered
Joined: Oct 2008
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
Keep in mind any neurotype can be cliquish
^full of win
|
|
| 10-24-2012 01:31 AM |
|
 |
black butterfly
Posts: 2,181
Group: Registered
Joined: Aug 2009
Status:
Away
|
RE: Cliqueness
I avoid cliques like cliches
|
|
| 10-24-2012 02:01 PM |
|
 |
M
Posts: 6,848
Group: Registered
Joined: May 2005
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
I realize alot that I do not fit in somehow. I am learning more that I am older. I know that one issue is the topics of conversations. Often these cliques are really boring and there is some leader person. If I try to change the subject or talk about how I feel about something then that does not seem acceptable to the leader person. The rest of the people in the group tend to follow the leader person and often ends in attacking or ignoring my conversation. So probably I would just leave. Unless the group is doing something that I really want to be included in - I can just go without them. Otherwise I can just observe without commenting.
Often it is really difficult not to comment when I know that I have information that can solve their problems. I find that often the information is not welcome and people seem to want to just get attention or "sympathy" for their problem rather than solve it. The sympathy is consisting of agreeing with the person that the problem is terrible and that they feel upset about it. They sometimes might want to hear a story of a situation when another person had a similar problem but often that is not welcome from me either.
|
|
| 10-24-2012 02:46 PM |
|
 |
Genesis
Posts: 17,065
Group: Registered
Joined: Jan 2011
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
Why haven't they come back? Whats the point of posting "1" comment and they not posting again?
Red Line
もっとエピック
Actual Date of Joining AFF: Feb 2009
Eamus Catuli [Must we be normal?]
|
|
| 10-24-2012 04:31 PM |
|
 |
Smurfy
Posts: 121
Group: Registered
Joined: Oct 2012
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
I realize alot that I do not fit in somehow. I am learning more that I am older. I know that one issue is the topics of conversations. Often these cliques are really boring and there is some leader person. If I try to change the subject or talk about how I feel about something then that does not seem acceptable to the leader person. The rest of the people in the group tend to follow the leader person and often ends in attacking or ignoring my conversation. So probably I would just leave. Unless the group is doing something that I really want to be included in - I can just go without them. Otherwise I can just observe without commenting.
Often it is really difficult not to comment when I know that I have information that can solve their problems. I find that often the information is not welcome and people seem to want to just get attention or "sympathy" for their problem rather than solve it. The sympathy is consisting of agreeing with the person that the problem is terrible and that they feel upset about it. They sometimes might want to hear a story of a situation when another person had a similar problem but often that is not welcome from me either.
Another option is to *be* the leader.
Your Aspie score: 147 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 64 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
|
|
| 10-24-2012 05:44 PM |
|
 |
DanBett
Banned
Posts: 24
Group: Banned
Joined: Oct 2012
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
So one thing that's been getting me down about the NTs is how cliquey they are. It seems that once they settle into their little groups, they dont want to know you at all, especially if you're a little bit different.
It's so hard to break people out of their cliques, or break into cliques, seems so pointless as well, and as usual there is never any help available from anyone.
If you go up to people and they basically give you the cold shoulder, that makes you the bad person for not trying hard enough. It's literally never their fault whatever they do. I'm sick of these NTs and their crap.
People will form groups with people they relate to.
If there were a large autistic presence in your class, you would be part of their Clique. Don't pretend you're any different.
Xenophobia is hardcoded in all Humans and there's nothing anybody can do about it.
|
|
| 10-24-2012 09:38 PM |
|
 |
Lang
Posts: 6,787
Group: Registered
Joined: Feb 2006
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
Xenophobia is hardcoded in all Humans and there's nothing anybody can do about it.
No it isn't, human behavior is learned behavior.
Chris Christie is so fat, his lap-band is a symphony orchestra.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights. They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
PROUD DISRUPTIVE DINGBAT
http://Siochanna.deviantart.com
http://neversubmit.xanga.com/
|
|
| 10-24-2012 11:50 PM |
|
 |
142857
Posts: 6,365
Group: Registered
Joined: May 2010
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
I have worked in an industry with a high representation of aspies/autists for nearly 3 decades. I've never noticed aspies forming cliques. Aspies tend to get along better with other outsiders in general, that would be my observation. Outsiders are far more interesting anyway.
|
|
| 10-25-2012 12:03 AM |
|
 |
ῦ
Administrator
      
Posts: 10,318
Group: Administrators
Joined: Feb 2007
Status:
Away
|
RE: Cliqueness
Xenophobia is hardcoded in all Humans and there's nothing anybody can do about it.
No it isn't, human behavior is learned behavior.
No, Xenophobia is an instinctive action. The absence of xenophobia is a learned behaviour, and it can be a very hard one to maintain.
This post was last modified: 10-25-2012 03:21 AM by ῦ.
|
|
| 10-25-2012 03:18 AM |
|
 |
skyblue1
Activist
  
Posts: 21,032
Group: Activists
Joined: Jan 2008
Status:
Offline
|
RE: Cliqueness
Why haven't they come back? Whats the point of posting "1" comment and they not posting again? 
I suspect "NT`s" are coming over from another forum, to see if we really dont bash them.
Just a hypothesis
I'm not anti-social; I'm just not user friendly
|
|
| 10-25-2012 04:03 AM |
|
 |
|
|