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Creationists In South Korea Force Removal Of Evolution From High-School Textbooks

Creationists in South Korea won a campaign to remove evolution from high school textbooks.

According to Nature.com, a group called the Society for Textbook Revise mounted an effective petition drive and is claiming credit for the removal of the evolution "error" from student's textbooks in order to "correct" their understanding of the world.

South Korean publishers will soon be removing examples of evolution from many high-school textbooks. The decision was taken , after government officials sent the Society's petition to publishers, reports the New York Daily News.

The group petitioned to remove specific examples of how animals have evolved, including the horse and Archaeopteryx bird, along with any reference to human evolution and Charles Darwin's theory of human origin. The Ministry of Education, Science, and Technology (MEST) has confirmed that publishers are working on revised editions.

According to Newser, the Society For Textbook Revise was set up in the 1980s by the US Institute for Creation Research when Christianity spread across South Korea.

Many biologists are furious with this decision saying they were not consulted. Dayk Jang, an evolutionary scientist at Seoul National University, told Newser: “The ministry just sent the petition out to the publishing companies and let them judge.”

South Korea is increasingly becoming a "scientific powerhouse," Josh Rosenau, programs and policy director at the National Center for Science Education told the Daily News. But Rosenau worries that South Korea will not be able to compete internationally if it doesn't continue teaching evolution in schools.

“Evolution is the core of modern biological science,” he said. “When something like this comes to fruition, the scientific community can be caught flat-footed.”

According to Newser, approximately forty percent of South Koreans don't believe in evolution, akin to a Gallup poll showing nearly the same percentage of Americans also deny evolutionary claims.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/14...94717.html

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how in the world are kids supposed to receive a competent education...I mean, geez thats a huge gap. what are they gonna replace evolution with--how will they teach the kids certain things?

mm...i suppose its not forbidden to teach- teachers will just have to expand their curriculum and use the books less.

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Why worry about Korea.

http://creationmuseum.org/

From reports I've read this place has always got school parties being dragged around it being brainwashed.

It answers all your questions ye foolish disbelievers.Rolleyes

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Why worry about Korea.

http://creationmuseum.org/

From reports I've read this place has always got school parties being dragged around it being brainwashed.

It answers all your questions ye foolish disbelievers.Rolleyes

You must take the virtual tour!!!!!!


good 'ol kentucky creation museum...never been to it, never will...

although, they have a dragon theatre which is tempting...I like dragons.

look, i have nothing against sharing perspective- but its not really a museum if it based on one single religion. a true museum would have a darwin exhibit (which would be the most extensive for obvious reasons), a bible exhibit, a Vedic exhibit, multiple indigenous creation story exhibits, and an alien exhibit. that way it would truly be a culturally enlightening experience.

just having a creation museum based on the bible is not museum --its religion, its animated church- and if they are taking public school children there, then that is bribing them with fancy displays and activities to prefer one religion...thats just wrong, and it would seem to be illegal (unless they are also taking children to Buddhist temples, Mosques, Hindu temples, and native american cultural centers, which i highly doubt).

but then again its kentucky- waddya gonna do about it?

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I've always admired the American education system because it keeps religon out of schools.
If parents want their children to learn about religion it should be done in their own time. School is for learning facts.

Is this how the are getting around that?
Because plenty of schools are visiting and this is state of the art, no expense spared brainwashing - and I find it scary as hell.
This is not just religous propoganda, they are debunking sound science.

Not being American I don't get the references to Kentucky. Are you saying we should ignore it?

With the money these people have there will no doubt soon be one of these 'museums' in a state near you.



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I've always admired the American education system because it keeps religon out of schools.
If parents want their children to learn about religion it should be done in their own time. School is for learning facts.

Is this how the are getting around that?
Because plenty of schools are visiting and this is state of the art, no expense spared brainwashing - and I find it scary as hell.
This is not just religous propoganda, they are debunking sound science.

Not being American I don't get the references to Kentucky. Are you saying we should ignore it?

With the money these people have there will no doubt soon be one of these 'museums' in a state near you.


There are a lot of hills in kentucky and Appalachian sub-culture (reference to hill-billy). its also a very poor state, with a lot of farms so there are jokes made about the "backwards" southern culture dominant there. Historically it was the northern-most slave state, and slaves would swim across the ohio river to escape kentucky and find freedom .. half my family is from kentucky so i'm very familiar with the jokes...for example: Where was the toothbrush invented?
It was invented in Kentucky, because if it had been invented anywhere else it would be called the "teethbrush". (suggesting kentuckians don't have many teeth which is a stereotype about hillbillies).

So the fact that a creation museum opened up in kentucky of all places is funny (another stab at the backwards hillbilly superstitiousness).

I will note that I don't use the reference hillbilly in every day language because its actually offensive, and i wouldn't say kentuckians are stupid or backwards- just a different type of culture down there- much more simple. but because my mom is from kentucky and ive spent some time in the hills, i can laugh at the jokes with my family members because its in good humour when they are laughing at themselves.

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Thanks for the explanation

When I hear Kentucky I think of the Kentucky Derby (and fried chicken of course) and so get a very diferent image.

However these Kentukians arn't backward in coming forward.

They have dinosaur billboards up in every state to get kids to pester they parents to take them to this 'museum'.

And what about this horror story oozing out of this 'museum'

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As a part of our fifth anniversary celebration this weekend, the Creation Museum has opened a new high-tech exhibit designed to expose the scientific bankruptcy of the evolutionary interpretation of the famous so-called ape-woman “Lucy.”

Perhaps more than any other fossil, Lucy is presented as “exhibit A” for evolutionists in their attempt to show that humans evolved from an ape-like ancestor. Through the scientific research of the Creation Museum’s Dr. David Menton (PhD, biology, Brown University) and the artistic talents of Doug Henderson and his crew, the museum has created a stunning holographic refutation of Lucy. (The technical name for this Lucy creature found in Africa is Australopithecus afarensis.)

“I expect that scientists, both evolutionists and creationists, will make a trip to the Creation Museum to see this exceptional exhibit, not only because it refutes Lucy as an ancestor of ours, but also due to its use of remarkable holographic technology,” declared Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis and the museum.

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I find it sad that anyone would willingly go to a place such as this. I am somewhat religous (believing in an infinitely complex scientifically ruling God) but this is just sickening.


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Evolution is not the core of biological science.  It is a theory that is all.  The less time spend on the debate is just more time for education.

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M Wrote:
Evolution is not the core of biological science.  It is a theory that is all.  The less time spend on the debate is just more time for education.


Agreed.


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I find it sad that anyone would willingly go to a place such as this. I am somewhat religous (believing in an infinitely complex scientifically ruling God) but this is just sickening.


Personally i'd go, but I wouldn't take a minor child with me, nor would I willingly give them money.




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Evolution is not the core of biological science.  It is a theory that is all.  The less time spend on the debate is just more time for education.


Sure, just like particle theory (the theory that matter is made out of particles) is not the core of modern physics.




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According to Newser, approximately forty percent of South Koreans don't believe in evolution, akin to a Gallup poll showing nearly the same percentage of Americans also deny evolutionary claims.


That is just plain scary.

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M Wrote:
Evolution is not the core of biological science.  It is a theory that is all.  The less time spend on the debate is just more time for education.


Sure, just like particle theory (the theory that matter is made out of particles) is not the core of modern physics.


And just like the periodic table is not the core of modern chemistry.

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Evolution is not the core of biological science.  It is a theory that is all.  The less time spend on the debate is just more time for education.


No, evolution is a fact. European men are taller, healthier and fitter than they were five thousand years ago. Therefore they have evolved.

The only way farmers can create and maintain healthy livestock lines is by deliberately selecting the healthiest specimens for reproduction. That's manufactured evolution. Compare a farm chicken of fifty years ago with one from the modern day. They've evolved to carry more meat, because farmers have selected the best specimens and bred them. That's evolution.

Many animals have acquired immunities to poisons over successive generations, because the few that were immune survived and bred, those that weren't immune died. That's evolution. It's a fact we can see around us every day.

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