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Karma and anti-Karma

You probably know what Karma is.

If not then "what goes around comes back around" basically it is similar to the idea of chaos theory in other-words "every action has a reaction" but what you do will affect you and/or people close to you. Performing good deeds will lead to good things happening in your life and vise versa with bad ones.

Considering my life and the life of others I have come across the idea of anti-Karma, similar to the idea of matter and anti-matter.

The situation with anti-Karma is that no matter how much good you do bad things will happen to you, or things that you think are good turn out to be bad. Either that or one very small thing causes a large amount of a number of very big events that happen to be bad.

Anti-Karma affects certain people, mainly those living in the third world. It can also randomly affect people if several bad events happen at once, that are not related to Karma for example a relative's passing. It can also randomly affect people caught in events that were seen as good but turned out to be bad, for example a bad bargain.



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RE: Karma and anti-Karma

I prefer cause and effect

From every cause, there is an effect

For every effect, there is a cause.


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RE: Karma and anti-Karma

Karma is any consequence of your actions, and is magnified by the intention you put behind the actions. Karma as a law doesn't work without reincarnation. According to karma, the life you have now, your worries, the people you meet, the bad, and the good, are due to some combination of karma accumulated over many lifetimes including this one. For example, someone may have good luck, and it turns out they were pretty good in the past life. Someone may have bad luck, and perhaps they were a crue dictator in their past life.

Karma acts on the individual as well as collectively. Therefore, not only do we accrue karma by ourselves, but our communities accrue karma. This can be understood by considering that long ago the world (or another world) looked very different- you could generalize and say that there was a time where most white people were oppressed, and endured a lot of suffering quietly. Millennia later and they are now a dominant race, but deeds against other races (genocide, slavery, occupation, war, theft, hoarding) can accrue negative karma on their part.

Or you could surmise that if a nation invades a territory and oppresses the people there, the descendents of the oppressed people will in some part be the reincarnated oppressors, who have to live through the suffering they helped put together.

The point of karma is that it is supposed to teach you wisdom. You learn through experience, both good and bad, and the lessons you learn you do not forget from life to life. You carry it with you until you are able to realize the ultimate truth.

Once you realize the ultimate truth, and you begin to perform all actions dedicated to that truth, and you no longer accrue karma. Thus the cycle of karma is gradually broken and you will no longer be reincarnated because your soul will have merged with the universe (aka Nirvana).

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RE: Karma and anti-Karma

actually, Karma simply means "action". We all perform karma all the time because you cannot live without performing some sort of karma. On the other hand, when you speak of reaping what you sow, cause and effect, that is the "Law of Karma", or the "Law of Action" (or the "Law of Return" as is known in other cultures).

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Some_Bloke Wrote:
You probably know what Karma is.

If not then "what goes around comes back around" basically it is similar to the idea of chaos theory in other-words "every action has a reaction" but what you do will affect you and/or people close to you. Performing good deeds will lead to good things happening in your life and vise versa with bad ones.

Considering my life and the life of others I have come across the idea of anti-Karma, similar to the idea of matter and anti-matter.

The situation with anti-Karma is that no matter how much good you do bad things will happen to you, or things that you think are good turn out to be bad. Either that or one very small thing causes a large amount of a number of very big events that happen to be bad.

Anti-Karma affects certain people, mainly those living in the third world. It can also randomly affect people if several bad events happen at once, that are not related to Karma for example a relative's passing. It can also randomly affect people caught in events that were seen as good but turned out to be bad, for example a bad bargain.


A sideline - 'every action has a reaction' has nothing to do with chaos theory. It's newtonian.

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The interesting thing is that the Law of Karma no longer applies when you begin doing things for the sake of the ultimate truth. This is becuase, your actions are no longer your own, as you have surrendered them to the service of truth. In doing this, you are not really performing karma (the universe is doing it through you, as if you were an instrument). Thus you break the cycle of birth and death (i.e. reincarnation). The foundation of many eastern religions and philosophies, and also many indigenous american cultures is built on the idea that the law of karma, or the law of return works.

Good karma can also be acquired by serving those who are able to surrender to the ultimate truth (monks, priests, holy people). Because supposedly they help uphold righteousness in the world, so even if you have not accrued so much wisdom, you are able to attain nirvana through that indirect service. Also, Gurus are supposed be enlightened individuals who can helo you accelerate on your path of attaining wisdom, so that you do not need to experience too many lives. Without a Guru you would still attain wisdom but it would supposedly take longer.

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Actually, the 'law of Karma' doesn't apply at all in any context. It's a mythical explanation of what rational people call 'coincidence'.
The whole theory's repulsive anyway. "Are you disabled? It's your fault for being an arsehole in a previous existence".
Sod off.

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Thats what I have always thought about reincarnation



Geez, I must have been a total Arse and I am being taught a lesson


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RE: Karma and anti-Karma

Luke Mauser Wrote:
Actually, the 'law of Karma' doesn't apply at all in any context. It's a mythical explanation of what rational people call 'coincidence'.
The whole theory's repulsive anyway. "Are you disabled? It's your fault for being an arsehole in a previous existence".
Sod off.


Well actually, if its applied correctly it should eliminate judgment, because 1, you are no better to worse than anyone else because you may have been in their same position or will be in that position in the future, and 2, everyone has their lessons to learn and you have no idea whats going on with their soul (or who they even are, they could be a very great soul) so its useless to judge, 3, the person who is your enemy now may be your child in another life so no use holding unhealthy grudges, and 4, if you are meant to be friends with someone, it will happen as per your karma matching, but if you are meant to not like someone you won't like them as per your karma clashing, so there is no use getting upset when people don't like you or feeling proud when you are popular. So basically, no use worrying about what other people are doing (which includes accepting people for who they are--not trying to change or conform them), and just making sure you are doing what YOU are supposed to do and are not stepping on anyone's toes to do it.

the law of karma calls for mutual respect. thats the way it used to be applied when it was thought up during peacetimes in small communities by philosophers. unfortunately, people today use it- just like any other religion- to do harm and avoid blame.

religion in the hands of a fool is useless and dangerous, i agree.

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I believe we live in a cyclic universe. Energy cannot be created or destroyed, only Changed from one form to another.  Luck? I make m own luck.


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skyblue1  Wrote:
Thats what I have always thought about reincarnation

Geez, I must have been a total Arse and I am being taught a lesson


LOL, I wonder if a person having a really wonderful life ever thinks, "I must have lived a really saint-like life in a previous existence for my current life to be this good!"

If that holds, then I must have had terrific good health in a previous life, to the extent that it's a wonder I ever died ...

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RE: Karma and anti-Karma

Alison Wrote:

skyblue1  Wrote:
Thats what I have always thought about reincarnation

Geez, I must have been a total Arse and I am being taught a lesson


LOL, I wonder if a person having a really wonderful life ever thinks, "I must have lived a really saint-like life in a previous existence for my current life to be this good!"

If that holds, then I must have had terrific good health in a previous life, to the extent that it's a wonder I ever died ...

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lol!

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Part of our nature as human beings is to seek patterns, to seek order, to seek reasons for things.

This is part of what makes us successful as a species.

It is also part of what makes us believe in silly things.

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142857 Wrote:
Part of our nature as human beings is to seek patterns, to seek order, to seek reasons for things.

This is part of what makes us successful as a species.

It is also part of what makes us believe in silly things.


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Kapkao is The Anti Karma


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