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Phillip J Fry
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Autism, the new scape-goat for lazy children

Lately I've been hearing how parents are making up excuses for their child's bad grades in school with autism.

For example:
A Naive Mother"My son is failing history, and I don't know why. I know, I'll just say he has AUTISM"

Yes more and more parents/guardians are using autism as a scapegoat and whats worst is the fact that is making us aspies look like we're lazy, stupid, individuals (Not to mention spreading more false facts about what autism is).

Back when I was still in Elementary/middle/high school, I was, probably like yourselves were, put in Special Ed 95% of the school day. As I recall, only 5% of everyone in my special Ed class had a real disorder of some type and the rest were just lazy a**es. And did my Special Ed teachers give a dam* ? No, of course not.
The more they had in their classes, the more money in their pockets.
I didn't pay much attention to this fact till Mrs b*tch face tried her hardest to prevent me from graduating back in 06. I was put in alternative Ed at the time cause I was missing credits necessary to graduate, and the day came when I finally, after working my a** off, finished making up for lost credits. I worked through lunch break and hardly socialized, even when we watched movies I worked and worked. I remember asking for my diploma and Mr's nice-store-clerk-lady told me that my old special Ed teacher was making suggestions that I stay another year or two.

Well I didn't like that at all, neither did my alternative Ed teacher, so she went and talked to our principle and I graduated, I guess. I never did went to the high school to pick up my diploma, neither did I hear more on the final case.

But my point is the American school education system is corrupted as sh*t and the American parents of lazy children are using Autism as an excuse to escape the fact that their children are lazy.

So people be prepared to see an increase in Autistic misdiagnosed obnoxious lazy teenagers using Asperger's as a crown and a scapegoat at school. Not that any teenager on here is that due to the fact that they'd never use Asperger's as a crown if they truly have it. And I'm not trying to start a witch hunt on here neither, I'm just saying be prepared for Asperger's being more and more into the media spot light. Not as in "We discovered a new link" or "This may be the cause".. But as in "Parents are using Autism to explain why their children are bored in school" type of media BS.

And yes, I do foresee Autism Sneaks being a problem for every autistic person on this forum site who are rebelling against that organization. Why? cause Autism Sneaks is going to go to town on this new parents-who-use-autism-as-a-scapegoat trend thats sweeping America

05-27-2012 10:39 PM
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Education system is UK is corrupted too, I bet the same thing happens over here but is either less common or hidden better due to the Nazi hate and blame being directed towards mainly immigrants or "poor people" Doesn't tend to be as much Autism covered in the media and when it is, it's normally a famous person coming out about it, or some documentary with an insensitive title like "My Child's not perfect"

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05-27-2012 10:57 PM
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I agree about society having their heads up their a**es. Maybe if they'd stop blaming each other for everything that goes wrong in the world and started working together, we actually get things done. But it's like that famous author who wrote the novel "Gangs of New York" said.
If Democracy wouldn't work in a enclosed space, like New York City, then it wouldn't work elsewhere. That's not the correct quote, but it went something like that.  

Our Education Systems have gone to hel* and back with all the corruption and stupid curriculum programs our Board committees (Education Board that is) have created for the children's education. I mean how's algebra and up going to teach them to survive and fend for themselves ? Maybe it's beneficial for say, an architecture designer, but what does knowing 1(0)*9 = X got to do with survival after school ? I wish they'd rewrite their System to where they'd had to take classes based on what they want to do after they finish school, instead of having worthless algebra as a must-needed-credit to finish school Sad

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People like that really make me mad. You know what? Just because your kid isn't smart doesn't mean he's autistic. They're just propogating the stereotypes.


05-28-2012 02:03 AM
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True JuggaspieZ2k, but parents just don't want to admit the fact that their children aren't all that smart, instead they blame autism Sad

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*facepalm*


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05-28-2012 02:34 AM
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SkyBlue1 ???? lol

05-28-2012 02:36 AM
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Dyslexia is much the same. It's a genuine 'condition'(?), but over the last 15 years or so, every thick kid is miraculously dyslexic! No! If you have trouble reading and writing which is out of proportion to your other academic acquisition, you're dyslexic (or maybe blind....). If you can't learn to read and write and similarly you can't learn simple facts, you're probably just plain stupid. That's not dyslexia.

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TV, video games, and disrespect for others are a few of the reasons for lazy children


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Luke Mauser Wrote:
Dyslexia is much the same. It's a genuine 'condition'(?), but over the last 15 years or so, every thick kid is miraculously dyslexic! No! If you have trouble reading and writing which is out of proportion to your other academic acquisition, you're dyslexic (or maybe blind....). If you can't learn to read and write and similarly you can't learn simple facts, you're probably just plain stupid. That's not dyslexia.


My thoughts exactly.

I notice at my uni that around the time of exams and essay deadlines there is often an upsurge in people who miraculously slipped through the net that totally have dyslexia.

The fact that having dyslexia is enough to get you extra time in exams, free printing and etc is completely unrelated.

I am going to have to cut this short before I go into one of my rants.

05-28-2012 03:42 PM
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Isn't dyslexia where you see words/letters backwards? It seems that that would be easy to test for in children.


05-28-2012 05:55 PM
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You know, I often find it very hard to be fully appreciative of such things as this.
The reason is that I have always been Autistic and never had any help for it. I have always been dyslexic and taht is OK.
It is embarassing sometimes adn my love to write and be concise quite often undermined, by my inability to get words down on the page right.
It is a lot better now than when i was younger. The stress of school really meant all I saw on the page were wavy lines and the marking on pieces of work that were hard fought to write a collage of red ink and circles.
Stress gees it up.
I got through 11 years of school barely literate. I was smart and articulate and completely devoid of any real sense of it. I could not convert anything written to anything of any meaning.
I studied in nightschool after school and on my own dollar and at my own pace.
I started to learn how to put sentences together properly and express myself. In time I sat my mature enterance examinations for uni and got in on my first preference. It was both humbling and vindicating.
I was no longer the dumb kid.
I worked **** hard to getthere though. The same could be said of my efforts in the workplace. The same in my efforts as a Dad. Life in general really. I never got help. Never asked.
I went through most of my life thiniing i was mentally retarded but did not give up. Just did the best i could.
I do not believe in free rides in life and do think though that people should get support if they need it and to the extent that they need it. No more and no less. I hate people taking advantage of any situatiomn.


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05-28-2012 06:07 PM
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Even if children are genuinely autistic or have some other disorder, it still isn't an excuse to not at least try. I was born with Dyscalculia as a part of my Fragile X Syndrome. It's have your own disorder to learn math (even simple as I don't fractions and long division)

WikiPedia on Dyscalculia:
Dyscalculia (or maths disability) is a specific learning disability involving innate difficulty in learning or comprehending arithmetic. It is akin to dyslexia and includes difficulty in understanding numbers, learning how to manipulate numbers, learning maths facts, and a number of other related symptoms (although there is no exact form of the disability). Maths disabilities can also occur as the result of some types of brain injury, in which case the proper term is acalculia, to distinguish it from dyscalculia which is of innate, genetic or developmental origin.

Yeah people though (Those at the clinic) that I would never be able to learn Math, let alone Algebra, but I had one teacher who actually sat down one on one with me and I actually started to get the hang of it. ( I had a sort of random course in math when I was in school) My point is, just because you were born with a disability doesn't mean you can't at least try!

F***ing parents who use autism or other disabilities as a crutch for their lazy children deserve to get a visit from Child Protection Services more than wrongfully accused parents who are accused by people who dislike them Sad

Also here's the link on more about Dyscalculia Disorder  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyscalculia

and here's the one on Dyslexia as well

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyslexia

05-28-2012 06:33 PM
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marioLuvsbowser Wrote:
Lately I've been hearing how parents are making up excuses for their child's bad grades in school with autism.

For example:
A Naive Mother"My son is failing history, and I don't know why. I know, I'll just say he has AUTISM"

Yes more and more parents/guardians are using autism as a scapegoat and whats worst is the fact that is making us aspies look like we're lazy, stupid, individuals (Not to mention spreading more false facts about what autism is).

Back when I was still in Elementary/middle/high school, I was, probably like yourselves were, put in Special Ed 95% of the school day. As I recall, only 5% of everyone in my special Ed class had a real disorder of some type and the rest were just lazy a**es. And did my Special Ed teachers give a dam* ? No, of course not.
The more they had in their classes, the more money in their pockets.
I didn't pay much attention to this fact till Mrs b*tch face tried her hardest to prevent me from graduating back in 06. I was put in alternative Ed at the time cause I was missing credits necessary to graduate, and the day came when I finally, after working my a** off, finished making up for lost credits. I worked through lunch break and hardly socialized, even when we watched movies I worked and worked. I remember asking for my diploma and Mr's nice-store-clerk-lady told me that my old special Ed teacher was making suggestions that I stay another year or two.

Well I didn't like that at all, neither did my alternative Ed teacher, so she went and talked to our principle and I graduated, I guess. I never did went to the high school to pick up my diploma, neither did I hear more on the final case.

But my point is the American school education system is corrupted as sh*t and the American parents of lazy children are using Autism as an excuse to escape the fact that their children are lazy.

So people be prepared to see an increase in Autistic misdiagnosed obnoxious lazy teenagers using Asperger's as a crown and a scapegoat at school. Not that any teenager on here is that due to the fact that they'd never use Asperger's as a crown if they truly have it. And I'm not trying to start a witch hunt on here neither, I'm just saying be prepared for Asperger's being more and more into the media spot light. Not as in "We discovered a new link" or "This may be the cause".. But as in "Parents are using Autism to explain why their children are bored in school" type of media BS.

And yes, I do foresee Autism Sneaks being a problem for every autistic person on this forum site who are rebelling against that organization. Why? cause Autism Sneaks is going to go to town on this new parents-who-use-autism-as-a-scapegoat trend thats sweeping America


1. You are not lazy just because you get bad grades
2. Some autistics really do have issues in school, are they stupid?
3. At least you're not one of those people so obsessed with autism image that you insult autistics who have issues, using any argument you can to say that they just suck and need to get a move on, or attack those who say that they are depressed and have troubles in life. Disgusting... >.> OR insult mothers or fathers who talk on the news about something that does include showing a disadvantage partly due to autism... its like "let's hide em from the news so that those less functional don't make me look bad! ow, my ego!"

You don't need to insult the children who get bad grades just because you're mad with their moms either. Some may not care, but you don't know which ones do and don't. You attacked the wrong people when you called them lazy and stupid.

I also disagree that someone wouldn't use their condition as a crown just because they are autistic. Autistics aren't any kind of pure or innocent or special. Just saying. Some definitely do complain of issues in school, seemingly justified though. Some have pride all the way up to here & feel very entitled.


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06-18-2012 05:11 PM
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Phillip J Fry
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Well okay, maybe it was a bit harsh for me to accuse all children who get bad grades in school to be lazy and vice versa. Your right, Autistic children suffer in school too. I was merely pointing out that parents trying to explain away their children s bad behavior in school on Autism. I know that some if not most autistic children do occasionally act up in school (Not trying to start a negative stereotype or anything). But what about the children who don't have Autism with parent's who don't want to admit that their children are mean, who use Autism as an excuse ?  

I just hate when neurotypical children are diagnosed with Autism cause of their bad behavior in school, which certainly is started by Autism Speaks spreading negative stereotypes about Autism.  

Yes Neurotypical children can be Autistic, but I'm talking something that show "Glee" started when this girl, who acts like a brat used Asperger's as a crown.  

I'm sorry that my point is getting cleared (since I have trouble expressing myself) and I'm sorry that I offended you Sad I don't want to start a fight or anything, but I have a gift of saying the wrong thing or expressing myself wrong...

As for Autism Pride. That's something I'm learning the more I stay and post on this site. I'm starting to look at the positive things of having Asperger's instead of the negative.

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06-18-2012 06:40 PM
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