That's pretty much the stereotype for most politicians.  

There is no clear stereotype for Obama.  He is one of a kind.  "That could have been my child", would be the usual scripted response of sympathy.  But, "if I had a son he would look like Trayvon", appears to be an Obama original.  Reminds me of the comment during the oil spill, when he stated he was in the bathroom shaving and his daughter came up to him and said "Daddy when are you going to plug that hole".  

Obama is not a businessman; he is an academic and not particularly socially adept; it shines through in some of the things he says, and even in some of his non-verbal communication.  Sometimes I wonder if he has a slight touch of the Aspergers.

Zimmerman's father is white and his mother is of Peruvian descent.

No updated pictures were provided of Zimmerman, until a few days ago.  That picture with the orange shirt that has been widely circulated was a 7 year old mugshot taken after he had been arrested in a scuffle with a lawenforcement officer.  My mistake on his age, he's actually 28, and was 21 in the mug shot.

It was also reported that he was most recently employed as an underwriter for a mortage risk management firm, before this incident occurred.

And, it is reported that his family is a respected one in the community.

He isn't white Kapkao. He's metis. Read what i said earlier.

Thath had nothing to do with race. It's the stupid law and neibourghood watch system that are at fault.

This is a racist crime barely anyone talk about..
http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2012...ed-attack/

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012...lack?sc=tw

Read that article and then decide about the race of Zimmerman. Zimmerman is Anglo-Hispanic/mixed heritage. Meaning this shooting can still be considered a hate crime. Even if we find out later that Zimmerman is x% black, it still doesn't matter because this will still be considered a hate crime anyways. He went after Trayvon even though he was told not to.

Racial injustices still happens today and not everyone realizes that (I don't mean on this forum, I mean in general so don't bite my head off). I was going to post about this topic, but someone beat me to it. Now I am walking on egg shells when it comes to my replies in this thread. I don't want to offend anyone, but the truth has to be spoken.

There is so much focus on this case (which isn't a bad thing), yet we forgot about Neli Latson. Even though Neli is freed, he still needs to be pardoned if he is ever going to live a "happier" life. Neli Latson is one of us (on the spectrum) and unfortunately he didn't know how to respond to the cops that were questioning him. Hence the year or two in jail/prison. You can find article's on all sides of Neli Latson's case. All Neli was doing was waiting for the library to open.

Enough said from me.

Metis?! SRSLY?! ON MY ENTERNATS?!

It's more likely than you think. [/b/tard_meme]

Vamps... it's time to tune up or repair your sarcasm detector. Yes, I'm well aware that ND folk have no sarcasm detection 'by default'.

I made my post to further illustrate and pound home the concept of "white vs black" not being particularly valid here. It has NO bearing on the nature or motivation of the crime. This wasn't a racial confrontation. Most sheriffs or officers on the scene would have asked the attacker why the kid was shot, about previous confrontations between the shooting victim and the armed assailant, drug/alcohol problems, etc. The offender saw a black kid, assumed he was a criminal, then got trigger happy. Yes, it's bigoted of Zimmerman, but not necessarily racially motivated. Nothing known about Zimmerman's past demonstrate any 'supremacist' notions or a desire to kill or harm people because they are black. He made a lethal attack on someone he shouldn't have, because they looked suspicious.

1. Someone's leaning on him!
   
2. *** YOU, Spike Lee, for proving how much of an *** you've been since Katrina and turning this trigger-happy flunkie into a martyr!
   

Logical fallacy: "hate crime" legislation assumes knowledge of a person's thoughts and/or viewpoints. Nonsequitur: the "racial motivation" can't be demonstrated on evidence. Circumstance, maybe. Nevertheless, someone with dark skin being killed by someone with lighter skin does not automatically point towards a "hate" motive.

Where does this accusation of racial hatred come from? It seems this thread revolves around a single notion of "white vs black" violence, only... that is a bigoted notion in of itself.

"Well... bye." -"Curly Bill", Tombstone (1993)

There is no law of nature dictating that hate crimes can only be committed by white people.  All members of a racist society, no matter what their race, participate in the racial hierarchy.  

Zimmerman may be a member of a non-white immigrant community on his mother's side but he is definitely lighter skinned than Trayvon was, and was shouting a racial epithet (I know, there is a claim that he was using a term of endearment, but really, how stupid do you have to be to believe that).  Without the racial epithets, you might still be able to argue that he's just a psycho and not acting on any racial animus (or at least that we can't prove beyond reasonable doubt that he was) but shouting terms used specifically to shame people for being black make his comments about the kid being "suspicious" sound like fear of all black people.

As he he did not veto the two-year extension of the Patriot Act, I'm sure you'll understand me being skeptical of the merits or nuances of Obama's character.

As you see folks, this thread is why people are tried only in a court of societal law, not in a court of public opinion. Too much ideology thrown about. Rule of (societal) law exists for a reason; that members of society can not determine guilt or harshness of sentence from personal of philosophical leanings, and litigators can't make up laws or rules regarding lawful behavior as suits their cultural or ideological biases.

What does "natural law" have to do with Trayvon Martin getting pinholed? That's another nonsequitur, isn't it?

Oh, so it's a "fear" crime then, right? Again, it would appear rule of law seems entirely irrelevant to you.

Zimmerman needs punished. He did have something against blacks, he has made alot of remarks , He was a cop wanna be and obviously had some mental issues.He was NOT doing it forself defense .What was the kid going to do? Beat him with skittles? I heard all I need to hear out of the 911 calls.. He is guilty.
He is a worthless piece that I hope  ends up rotting in prision for the rest of his life. Prayers to the Martin family ...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/...triot-act/

Actually he signed a four year extension, for powers to search records and conduct roving wiretaps in pursuit of terrorists, per Central Intelligence Agency concern that the measures were necessary to protect national security.

The Patriot Act is permanent law.  These two powers are two small parts of the Patriot Act that must be renewed periodically over concern of civil liberties.

While there was greater resistance to the patriot act than support when it was first passed, the American public as evidenced by a recent Pew poll result, indicated that only 34 percent of the country feels like the Bill goes to far in endangering civil liberties.

The President represents the entire country not just the minority that are vehemently opposed to iniatives seen to protect the nation from foreign attack.

The President has a responsibility to protect the American people from threats outside it's border, per objective facts presented by the Central Intelligence Agency over terrorist threats.  If he weighed personal ideology over those threats, the country could be in real trouble.

Ok, sorry... I didn't mean to contribute to a side distraction about US politicians.   Can we get back on topic about Zimmerman and Trayvon?

The topic of the CIA and the president is over-rated, and causes major Perseveration......

This is getting old.................

I think the consensus is that Zimmerman needs to be charged

My vote is for reckless homicide or manslaughter

Fookin' word.

ya`ll have been watching too many gangster movies