When it comes to gangster movies, I'm partial to Big Al  and Tony Soprano.

Casino  is my favorite

Scarface.

Anyway, Gerardo said it best, It's all cause of the hoodie!

Kapkao, i never saw the irony in your comment.

Yeah... I have a hard time grasping other people's sense of irony and humor, myself

I hate rednecks. Sorry. My grandma's older sister, Michaela, was "accidently" shot right between the eyes. She had a mole in beteen her eyes. This was in Texas. My mother's side of the family. Her "crime" was being Mexican.

My great grandfather was shot and his head cut off. My grandfather was just 4 years old at the time. The man who did it was White and was never charged. Everyone knew he did it and
No one told him till the day that man died. My grandfather went to the funeral parlor and punched his corpse in the face.

I think that this was done because of race is just an assumption.

Some are saying the kid attacked him so Zimmerman defended himself. Some others are saying about that is if some strange person was following after them, they would have done the same too. Maybe the kid attacked because Zimmrman was following him and throwing racial slurs at him and maybe he told the guy to leave him alone so finally he attacked him and bam that was when Zimmerman shot him.

The 911 person told Zimmerman to stay in the car and he didn't listen.

But if the kid were white, would Zimmerman still have targeted him except he wouldn't be throwing slurs at him? Or are there racial slurs for whites?

Now he is fearing for his life.

I feel sorry for people that share the same name as him and this elderly couple had to move into the hotel room after Spike Lee posted their address on Twitter he thought was his home. A George Zimmerman did live there until 1995 and moved out and it was there son but it was not the Zimmerman that killed the kid. But then Spike apologized for it.

I think he should she charged for not listening to the 911 person.

I mean the reason race (seemed) to come up was because it was fairly obvious that the reason Zimmerman stated Trayvon looked "suspicous" was because he was "black" and looked like others who had "gotten away" and were responsible for "robberies" in his neighborhood in the past - in other words "racial profiling"

Words in "quotes" are works used by Zimmerman in 911 transcript.

So is racial profiling against the law?  not really. It is borderline racist but mostly it is just pre judging - prejudice - some bias -

Looking for trouble because you are "fed up" (Zimmermans neighbor said he so fed up over crime) is stupid! Carrying a gun, is STUPID!
Transferrring "hate" of criminals onto a kid who it turns out was totally innocent that evening - following him, while holding a gun is WRONG and STUPID! and reckless! and is at the minimum manslaughter... or 2nd degree murder with extenuating circumstances - like they did fight ...and if I am holding a gun - on me - I would worry for my life if the person I was fighting with got a hold of it... so NOW my life COULD be in dnager (but I started it!) so reckless endangerment!!!! PLUS manslaughter.

I just hate this whole subject.

This post was last modified: 03-29-2012 07:48 PM by windy.

It seems like there are lot of bad stereotypes for blacks like gangsters, yell out "mother ***," doing crimes. But yet that is called racism but when you apply stereotypes to disabilities or to men or women, they aren't called racism. Instead when you apply stereotypes to men and women, it's called sexism. When you apply it to disabilities, it has no word, I think we just call it ignorance.

I just don't get it. Maybe that is where "everyone is a little racist" comes from?

This post was last modified: 03-29-2012 08:27 PM by League Girl.

I think the phrase "f***ing coon" being heard in the 911 call is a clue. It's a little faint, but still audible.

the new video doesnt show any sign of a head wound, when he was brought to the police station.

if he had been treated at the scene, by EMT`s,  for a head wound, there would have been a bandage

both he and the police are lying

I started thinking the same thing, until I saw this enhanced still from the ABC video.  It's obvious that he wasn't injured severely or he would have been taken to the hospital; but it appears possible that there was some type of injury to the head from the still shot that might have been reasonable, if he scraped his head on a curb.

There was also a still that showed some potential swelling by the nose, but it wasn't too convincing to me.

There were some sources that suggested that ABC covered the top of his head with the ABC logo in the video, to minimize the visibility of the wound.  

Objectively speaking, since the whole point of the video was to show that he didn't appear injured, I'm not sure what the purpose of covering his head with the logo in the video was.  I didn't even think about it though until I saw the enhanced still.  Seems like a potential valid criticism of ABC.

It appears that the area around the potential wound in the picture may have been shaved.

Unusual too was that the cop got something on his hand from touching the back of Zimmerman's jacket, and wiped it off on his pants, in the video.  

It's a little surprising to me that they would be handling him without gloves on, after a bloody battle, but I guess they could have been confident that the EMT's had taken care of that issue.

The cop looked at the back of Zimmerman's head like he was inspecting a wound.  

I'm not up to par on current EMT procedures; I suppose there could be some type of topical application equivalent to a bandage to prevent a wound on the head from bleeding, that wasn't visible in the low resolution picture.

High resolution pictures would have been required for the investigation; if it goes to trial, more of the details will likely eventually come out.

Lots of questions that need to be answered. 

I also recently found out that his father was a retired magistrate justice that served on the state Supreme Court in Virginia.  It had been reported that Zimmerman was arrested previously on two charges associated with violence, and no jail time was reported.  No influence from the father has been evidenced, but there has been speculation on that as well.

Surprising too, from looking at the 7 year old mug shot of Zimmerman that he was recently employed as an underwriter for a mortgage company.

Looking at that mugshot I would have never imagined that his father served as a judge on the Virginia Supreme Court.  

This incident is certainly a multi-faceted example of how different reality can be from how humans perceive it, based on limited views of it, and pre-disposed expectations, on many different levels.

The internet enhances this phenomenon in both positive and negative ways.

It's a good thing for everyone that we have a court system, that makes an attempt at justice for all through objective means.  Human bias will always be part of it, though.

People get stopped/profiled for being white as well
(though in the case of the linked thread... for specific reasons)

@ Katie

Zimmerman has a 1/32 length buzz cut.. What you are seeing is the strong overhead light reflecting off his scalp. Notice the light reflection off the top of his skull. The area in questtion is shadow. That is the area of his scalp where his crown is, and you must account for the slope of the back of his cranium. So, it is shadow.

I have been in the hair business for 47 years. That makes me a forensic expert in this area.

Anyways i shoot that theory down. You are welcome to disagree,

I AGREE with you - a group of white teens (unknown to neighbors)in a mainly black neighborhood block (thinking NEw York CIty- which I live near) seen right around the time a robbery happened that was unsolved might also have the bighbors on the look out for "whites" .  Not recism - may be profiling BUT what it reminds me most of is the reason we do NOT (in the US) have people on jurys that have had negative things (like crimes) happen to them by people with the same job as the defendant or by someone with the same race, people who have knee jerk reactions to a certain look (like people with hoodies etc.,) Those jurors get kicked off cases.. Like I would be a good juror EXCEPT for if the one accused was the son of a cop or something...


skyblue- find it a little suspicious about how "connected" zimmerman is? judge for a dad... etc.,

(I have had dealings with the sons of cops etc., they get away with a LOT!) No wonder the mom of Trayvon (had a lawyer or someone looking out for her rights) that "secured rights" to his name - (Trayvon) this is like a movie...)
I wish I could stop coming to this thread - I feel so sad about this whole thing.

This post was last modified: 03-30-2012 08:18 PM by windy.

I wasn't aware I posted any opinions to agree with. Just linking an acquaintance's story.