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Thank God.  I hope he can rebound. (not meaning basketball)

That's good. I kind of posted about that in random thoughts, but didn't make a thread. I hope his probation gets pardoned and his record is ex-sponged.

I'm glad to hear that.  

But the shame is that he had to spend so much time in jail, merely for sitting on the grass waiting for the library to open.  Damn, I've done enough of that myself!  But the difference is that I'm a middle-aged white female clutching a pile of books, so I don't look "suspicious" enough to bother about.  

Poor man!  What IS it with NT police being such damn bullies?  I remember once a policeman stopping Vernu and I simply because we were driving too slow.  We were driving west and enjoying a glorious sunset at the time.  We stayed in the left lane, so we weren't slowing down any traffic.  But this young policeman took one look at Vernu's dark face behind the wheel and stopped us, we had to get out of the car while he searched for drugs (!!!) and breath-tested for alcohol and he got really aggro at us because he couldn't find anything to charge us with.  Amazing little hemorrhoid!  

Alison

Pig is the profession all the playground thugs that never grew out of it past primary school age, and couldn't have it pulled out of them in secondary go. There they get given body armor, restraints and weaponry to form the attack dog squad for those who see past the political BS, PR company manipulation of opinions and corporate sh1tsacks who collude therewith in this that and the other.

Checking his site (I expected a HER site at first) I could see very little. Malware stripped my sound driver away, and whilst I can sign, I can't lip read.

Someone care to fill me in on what the homepage there lacks? I can't hear anything via this computer.

And at least he got to slug a copper. At least I bloody hope he did. Might a well get hung for a sheep as a lamb, as they say in britain.

Meaning if you are to be accused of stealing a lamb (insert 'did something wrong that is small, or was accused thereof) and pay the penalty for it. You might as well steal a sheep in the first place (I.e get more desired thing for your punishment to be served)

I'm sorry but he is guilty of desarming an officer and assaulting him. Wether or not the cop was right in the first place to try and choke him and spray him, he was sentence not for sitting on the grass, but assault in wich the pig got his ankle broke. If you react to cop, dont go complaining about them charging you according to the law.

It is still something we can be happy about. It is good news.

There is a lesson for us to learn also

We cant expect them to know we are Autist

So as we get older we must learn, that no matter how confusing, over stimulating and stressful the situation is, when dealing with an officer. We must submit, or the situation will become much worse.

Just a thought

If you are driving and are pulled over for no good reason, then certain charges resulting from that could end up being dropped (I doubt it would apply to just any charge, but still).  

I'm not a lawyer, so I don't know.  But perhaps the same or a similar principle could have come into play here if there defendant were white neurotypical.  Perhaps even just white.

good point

Keep in mind we should still submit to the police, as you said.  But this would hardly be the first black man unjustly imprisoned.

It sounds like the police didn't bother to just ask him why he was sitting there or to move on.  They just went in with the pepper spray and attacked.  I'd fight back too, in that case.  
Alison

If you don't know you are dealing with police, then you can't be held responsible for not submitting.  A society that does otherwise has built a gestapo.

Well, if the police attack first, isn't that a case of police brutality? It's hardly assault if it's self-defence, especially against a police officer...

Bloody right. There have been severa....no...MANY cases in the UK.

For instance, guy that died, unlikely a deliberate killing, during a riot, by pigs.
He was a newspaper seller that was not involved and caught up. Nonviolent, and certainly didn't provoke the pigs. Instead, a several filth, as the man, trying to walk home, and away from the riot, was taken down from behind, and attacked with a baton. Guy died.

Brazillian guy, jean charles de menezez-held down in his seat on a train by a strike team, seven 9mm hollowpoint rounds ('dum-dum bullets', they expand on impact, for instant kills, or failing that, massive organ trauma, hydrostatic shock injury and the intent of dumping as much of the bullets kinetic energy into a target as possible on impact, rather than drilling right through a target and coming out of the exit wound as would for instance a 7.62 or 5.56mm asault FMJ or even a round of 9mm ball) put into his face from handguns.

Guy did nothing but SIT there (although I assume he twitched and flopped and spasmed like a fish held out of water, or a poisoned rat, as the bullets tore a bloody hole in his face and forehead.)

The filth later colluded (no sh1t. Personally I think after ALL, each, and every SINGLE shooting by the old bill, that the cops need to be taken for debriefing in separate rooms, personally I would see them kept in cells. Kept specially for the purpose, in a sort of isolation unit, isolated from each other, and monitored, as other regular pig cells are, to prevent the cooking up of a story on the slow, or should I say Sll  oo oooo oooowwww.......www.. drive to base station. Too easy to say 'suspect fired the first shot from such and such an appearance of weapon, A pig returned fire first, followed by C pig firing two shots, B pig did not fire....etc...) and first accused the murdered civilian of not paying for a ticket, vaulting a turnstile whilst wearing a bomber jacket and looking like a terrorist (whilst they had originally followed him as a suspect terrorist, looking for a terrorist the guy does not particularly look like, or rather, didn't before he had his brains blown out, they did so from his HOME ADDRESS, and did nothing. They could have apprehended him, if indeed he were a terrorist, with an actual weapon, and/or explosive device(s) intending to commit an atrocity in a crowded subway train or station, and for one, merely held him at gunpoint and avoid the risk of life and limb to an entire crowded station worth of commuters, and probably spare a whole bunch of children, and teens, and for that matter adults from whatever ages, toddler and up see a guy splattered all over the train station by pistol packing shitheads after being rammed to the floor by the pigs.

(never mind the risk to the svinya's lives stopping the so called suspect dangerous terrorist if they were prepared to enter that confined station in the first place, leg it after jean charles de menezez as he  prepared to go in a train with an apparent bomber they were prepared to attempt to stop him the moment they saw him leave the house and search for an explosive-rigged backpack-the pigs, all pigs, and ESPECIALLY firearms pig units are expected to know that they might have to die in the line of duty. You do not give a gun to somebody who is not as part of a profession. If you hand a loaded gun to somebody, they better be prepared to use it. Prepared to die using it, or be a recreational shooter. Failing that, they should hand it back)

There was, despite the pack of lies told by the filth and their superiors afterwards, a shoot to kill policy on all terrorist suspects in effect. In other words, if any of us had been wrongly suspected, maybe wearing a hoody, hooded coat, etc. You would have copped those seven bullets in the face without a 'stop! armed police!
Just held down and shot in the head. Also shot in the shoulder.

At no times did the pigs should 'police' let alone 'armed police'

He was shot in the head whilst sat down and suddenly pinned by plainclothes pork, and one shouted 'police' AFTER the man was shot dead. The actual terrorists from the failed attacks the previous day were all either paki middle eastern types, or somalian/ethiopians. The suspect is, as you all can see in the wikipedia article on the murdered man was brazillian, and is close enough to white caucasian to be confused as such in the street.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Charles_de_Menezes


Quotes: (I've deleted the reference numbers which hotlink to the bottom of the appropriate reference at the bottom of the wikipedia entry on the murder, but they are in plain view for anybody who wishes to view the article and to follow up those links, immediately after subject headings, usually)

Investigation into suppression of evidence

On 13 October 2008, at an inquest into the death, a police surveillance officer admitted that he had deleted a computer record of Cressida Dick's instruction that they could allow Menezes to "run on to Tube as [he was] not carrying anything." At the inquest he told the court that "On reflection, I looked at that and thought I cannot actually say that." The IPCC announced that it would investigate the matter "[at its] highest level of investigation".



"On 13 October the IPCC launched an investigation after a Metropolitan police surveillance officer named only as "Owen" admitted that he had altered evidence submitted to the inquest. The officer had deleted one of his own computer notes which quoted deputy assistant commissioner Cressida Dick as concluding that Menezes was not a security threat. The note said "CD – can run on to tube as not carrying anything"


Endquotes (I'm tired, and there are plenty more quotable bits.........)

Suspended as per SOP on pay during investigation, no charges brought against the shooters, charges brought and dropped against the force.


Why were surveillance photos not updated to show a white guy ? because the pig (the same one that tampered with his police report ex post facto I think) was too busy taking a piss at the time.

Look up operation kratos for the shoot to kill policy. Renamed for PR, still in force. Countrywide.