Yea, so, after watching Gruen Plannet I came across the 'Autistics Speaking Day' thread. Look don't get me wrong I'm all for gay pride but...

Have you guys thought about putting your money towards getting the advice of a proffessional in PR or advertising? It's cheaper than a country. It might explain why you get your asses kicked by AS.

Alternativly you could read a book on the subject or watch the show if you're in my country. But you know... that's like effort.

Or you could sit around waiting for the world to revolve around you.


Just a thought

bye

Depends on what kind of PR is affordable.... *Depends*

public relations? nah - in my opinion - that is almost the opposite of the point.

the point - for me ? Being part of a diverse, diverse group, a loose, loose group, a group where we all have the fredom to express  - the ability to express - the need to express ourselves in a different way.  Guess what 20- people can be asked the same thing and 40 different responses are probable.

We are different and why not be proud to be different? Why not have poeople get used to the idea that wow, people don't need spokespeople - not really- some don;t want them even if someone else thinks they need them...we need to have people get used to hearing different things said differently.

Why homogonize or sound byte stuff?  WHy get us (human race)down to the lowest common denominator? Why, so we can all agree on one thing.

i am reminded of the whol 99% thing - the occupy wall streeteres who are being talked about in "the media" - "oh, they are wasting their rsource4s, oh , why can't they all get on the same message? people are not simple.. we are not a product.

Why, because people are individuals,hey media (and public relations/lobbying people) stop treating everyone like we are all the same and need to be acting the same.

ick, how boring.

plus, in this day and age of internet/web anytime we want to put out a polished idea - no one is stopping any of us.

It doesn not have to cost money-- in this day and age bartering and pooling talents (grass root style) is the way to go.

The "shiny" marketing platform is over saturated.

That may be the best idea I have seen in a long time.

It is a PR professional's job to understand, and sell *YOUR* agenda as *you* want them to...

Our problem is communication. It is a PR professional's job to overcome that.

the idea is great.

the attitude of the poster.....meh

They probably need to show a little more enthusiasm...

Dear loyal and hard working members of AFF:



Mytelli! would like to make a statment reguarding the comments made on the second of November 2011.


It has come to Mytelli!'s attention that these comments were interpereted as being cynical and rude.

He deeply regrets that this situation has come about, and feels that is is only right to clear things up.

Mytell! has always had enourmus enthusiasme and respect for AFF. His unwavering faith in your abilities as an organisation stems from the fantastic results and open-mindedness that is a hallmark of AFF.

AFF is, as we all know a household name and a respected organisation known throughout the world. Even in the far reaches of the earth, small indiginous tribes chant the name 'Aspies for freedom!'.

This enourmouse acheivment is a reflection of the constant proffessionalism and open-mindedness displayed by the members of AFF.

We are very sorry that you misinterpreted Mytelli!'s comments. Your inability to interperet Mytelli!'s well written comment is very regrettable, and we apologise wholeheartedly about what you have done.

Mytell! plans to take definitive action to ensure his reputation after the mistakes that you have made. Mytelli! will continue to help build a brighter future for all of us.

There is a way that you can do your bit; come and suckle from the perfection Mytelli!'s teets and everything will all be better. Join him for he is Mytelli! and we will SAVE THE WORLD!



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Mytell!; building a brighter future.






best $1000 bucks I ever spent.

It came off as sarcastic, got some of the facts about AFF wrong, and displayed a lack of understanding about what AFF is. No offense, but I'd ask for my money back.

LOL--

and a good PR firm would not use (ahem never LOL) absolutes such as Always... "Mytell! has always had ..."

Funny post Mytelli! (never noticed the ! before - did notice you (your hired PR firm) misspelled Mytell! I had read it as just an I   (and left the i out - but I guess there is no I in ...____? (couldn't think of a joke  to insert - need to hire a PR firm to make me sound funny)

This post was last modified: 11-14-2011 12:27 AM by Walden.

Convincing people to mindlessly buy one brand of snack food instead of another is a relatively easy task. Changing the attitudes of society towards minority groups is a much harder task. Look at the progress that has been made in terms of equal rights for women and homosexuals, consider that it's taken ~100 and ~50 years respectively and there's still a long way to go.

There's also the issue that, if we hire professional PR to do the bulk of the work for us, we're not in full command of how we frame the issues anymore. That's important because, if you can win on framing the issues (how things are worded, like 'autistic person' vs 'person with autism'), you've already taken a huge step toward victory.

and then we would have to live up to the hype

too much pressure

But the whole point in hiring a commercial PR person is that their job is to frame the issues the way you want them to and still make it work.

YOU are in charge.

Can you cite some references to describe how commercial PR people helped non-white people, homosexuals, and women get equal rights?

Of course I can't, because non-white, gay and female people are NTs, with  NT communication and connection skills...they didn't need to hire PR people, but by the same criteria, there were plenty of professional PR people in their ranks anyway (in Dublin alone I can think of at least two professional PR people in the heirarchy of Dublin Pride). Apart from which, lobbying *IS* a recognised "proving ground" and a step up the ladder for young PR people these days, and many of them get involved with rights issues for that reason.  

We are in a different position, and we need to hire professionals so that *WE* retain control of the situation. If we call for volunteers we will be inundated by people trying to take control of our issue on behalf of a variety of organisations that we do not want within a mile of our lives, but if we hire they work for us. There are national PR institutes, with actual codes of ethics y'know...like accountants or lawyers.

PR is not all what you think...they claim that PR was born here in Ireland in the 20s with the roll out of the rural electrification scheme.

Lastly, I am trained as a PR professional (but have no hands on experience per se, or aptitude for same) and look how much fecking damage I do to the existing, bad, status quo, and how many questionable people feel threatened, every time I am able to face moving a piece on the board.

Trouble is, from my point of view, I can't face the interaction and fallout of moving a piece on the board very often, and from *your* point of view that I am personally involved and strictly driven by my own political issues, ethics and agenda, not yours...which may not always be what you want.  

How much more could someone with real experience and aptitude *in the field*, who is more neutral than I can be, show us all how to achieve?

As it stands, on every level, personal, national or international advocacy we are at the mercy of every con artist who is "good" enough to sucker us in towards his own advantage by convincing promises to "help" us to make our case...with nobody giving a flying feck as the only available alternative.

I am actually trying to get hiring PR professionals to teach (or at least workshop) personal advocacy skills established here (not least because all the psych and *caring* professional are too biased and agenda driven to teach us any personal advocacy skills except for the ones *they* need us to have.)  

But, of course, the first step is to organise sufficiently to have a body of  Autistics who can hire PR.