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d_olson27
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"Opposing viewpoint" is already a commonly used term, referring to an opinion that is in opposition to the stated viewpoints of the forum or media in which the opinion is being stated. It's generally not meant to be mean. It's just used to say "We disagree with this opinion."
You need to consider your use of language and adapt depending on the circumstances. If you don't make them feel welcome or listened to in any way, they won't come, it's as simple as that.
If we don't listen to them, they won't listen to us. It's a two way street, bringing them to our platform exposes them to our ideology as well. If so called 'curbies' came here regurally to discuss these issues with us mabye we can persuade some of them to some extent.
Letting AS cover the front page with propoganda was a bad idea, but if we could talk to common "curbies" about these issues without them having loads of time to construct their statment, we could make leway by persuading the people themselves and catching them out on any spin they try to make. Publicly as opposed to internally.
What did you think this kind of activism was about?
I probably shouldn't have used autism speaks as an example because whenever they get brought the topic always changes completly. This is refering to AFF's choice of words.
Dialog is everything. I'm sorry, but that's the game we're playing here.
Anyway, we're just repeting ourselfes. That's my two cents on this topic.
I fully understand the importance of language and its use. My point is that this site does take positions on the issues. If someone is posting what we would call the opposing viewpoint, they would probably also call it the opposing viewpoint. It's an accepted media term, and I've never seen or heard anyone get offended by it.
Besides, people who hold what we might call opposing viewpoints usually don't find their way to AFF. Those who do usually come for the purpose of trolling. I'm just stating what I've observed in the past.
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Mytelli, why don't you write something for the home page then? It's obviously something you feel strongly about.
Alison (who'd like to but is currently tied up with kanji...)
I don't have much time on my hands either, if I do find the time to try activism again, I would have to seriously consider whether it would be best spent preaching to the converted on a random corner of the internet that has no interest in engaging with anyone in the outside world.
e: Oh and of corse you get trolls here. That's because this site isn't appealing to sensible people with a different point of veiw.
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Trolls come and go on any forum, just sometimes we see them, and sometimes we don't....
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This post was last modified: 09-28-2011 02:43 PM by Mytelli!.
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I'm sorry I can't read your emoticon...
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It's a concerned guy with a moustache
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I think it is a great idea. I might even submit something myself one day.
I think you would be a good one.
"If you don't like the way things are, change them. You're not a tree." Jim Rohn
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Mytelli, why don't you write something for the home page then? It's obviously something you feel strongly about.
Alison (who'd like to but is currently tied up with kanji...)
I don't have much time on my hands either, if I do find the time to try activism again, I would have to seriously consider whether it would be best spent preaching to the converted on a random corner of the internet that has no interest in engaging with anyone in the outside world.
e: Oh and of corse you get trolls here. That's because this site isn't appealing to sensible people with a different point of veiw.
Bravo!
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I don't understand why my brother's views were opposing. Keep you friends close and your enemies closer is the oldest and most intelligent political strategy in the book.
If you destroy you enemies, you are left with nothing. If you influence them to change and divert their resources, then you get a lot.
I wouldn't be too proud to take funding from Autism Speaks if it helped me.
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| 09-28-2011 07:46 PM |
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I've been thinking of a few ideas. I already posted my idea for an actual debate with Autism Speaks. It might be more accepted (and easier) if I try some lesser organizations first. There's also a few experiences I could write about. I'll give it a little more thought.
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I don't understand why my brother's views were opposing. Keep you friends close and your enemies closer is the oldest and most intelligent political strategy in the book.
If you destroy you enemies, you are left with nothing. If you influence them to change and divert their resources, then you get a lot.
I wouldn't be too proud to take funding from Autism Speaks if it helped me.
Bro wasn't interested in having autism speaks as an enemy. He said so himself. As for why they are opposing views, well... we are not for prenatal-testing and ASpeaks is, among many, many other reasons we have for not wanting to "bridge the gulf" without a MAJOR change in direction from ASpeaks.
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I don't understand why my brother's views were opposing. Keep you friends close and your enemies closer is the oldest and most intelligent political strategy in the book.
If you destroy you enemies, you are left with nothing. If you influence them to change and divert their resources, then you get a lot.
I wouldn't be too proud to take funding from Autism Speaks if it helped me.
Bro wasn't interested in having autism speaks as an enemy. He said so himself. As for why they are opposing views, well... we are not for prenatal-testing and ASpeaks is, among many, many other reasons we have for not wanting to "bridge the gulf" without a MAJOR change in direction from ASpeaks.
Major change in direction?
Hmm, expect the unexpected. I think the interview had a bigger impact than you think.
"If you don't like the way things are, change them. You're not a tree." Jim Rohn
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He talked about embracing his autism on Autism Speaks official blog.
He is getting the message out to people who wouldn't hear it otherwise. I'm very proud of him.
"If you don't like the way things are, change them. You're not a tree." Jim Rohn
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Regarding labeling something as an 'opposing viewpoint':
The NAACP (National Association of Colored Persons) would not be expected to display messages written on behalf of the KKK (Klu Klux Klan) on its website without labeling it as being from an 'opposing viewpoint'.
I think that AFF and Autism Speaks have about the same relationship as the NAACP and the KKK.
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Regarding labeling something as an 'opposing viewpoint':
The NAACP (National Association of Colored Persons) would not be expected to display messages written on behalf of the KKK (Klu Klux Klan) on its website without labeling it as being from an 'opposing viewpoint'.
I think that AFF and Autism Speaks have about the same relationship as the NAACP and the KKK.
IS it true that you are a highly influential computer genius. My brother kept talking about an Alan that was a computer genius but didn't like him and I think it was you. He was really into it for a minute.
"If you don't like the way things are, change them. You're not a tree." Jim Rohn
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