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RE: Autism Speaks

tambourine-man Wrote:
The problem with past self-advocacy attempts is that they are so aggressive, which alienates Autism Speaks and both supportive NTs and those who are on the fence.

Everyone will be far more effective when they utilize discernment and diplomacy.

Demanding that Autism Speaks crumbles and hands over all their resources is useless.

Instead of standing outside their house and giving them the finger, wouldn't it be more effective to invite them over for dinner and an adult discussion?

I love the idea Sky, and would invite you to PM me if you truly wish to make this happen.


Dude - seriously the people most responsible for ALIENATING is not a (relative in size) few of us here at AFF but that mammouth group and the past media campaigns drawing major disticntions between a regular son or daughter and a child on the spectrum.

Tam - do you stipulate that (I know you are good with language but do you see the words you are using - in the above- have connotations of blame?)

and, are we as a group of people on the spectrum -REALLY supposed to be great at diplomacy???

and
"aggressive"?  self advocacy and agressive seems like an oxymoron - (I don't know what you mean)
and
at least from my point of view - I don't see a whole lot of (middle) finger pointing and only a few people ever pretend to demand anything of aut spekas becasue they KNOW it is futile.  Venting occurs. Heck aspies have REALLY long memories after all! (don't you agree)

Skyblue is a really, really great guy - of course he really wants to do it- he would not have said it unless he meant it...

P.S.  I had to reply because it feels like (I am sure you do not mean it that way though)  a sort of rebuke to AFF, as if you are trying to buffer/protect a group that doesn't need it, from a group that didn't hurt anyone... you know?

09-22-2011 09:00 PM
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Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 12:19 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - - 09-21-2011, 12:53 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-21-2011, 01:02 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Marcia - 09-21-2011, 01:23 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 02:45 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Duckfetishgirl - 09-21-2011, 02:55 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 03:03 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - d_olson27 - 09-21-2011, 03:23 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Duckfetishgirl - 09-21-2011, 04:37 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 04:52 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Duckfetishgirl - 09-21-2011, 05:02 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-22-2011, 06:12 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - JudgeRoy - 09-21-2011, 05:17 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 08:40 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 05:00 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-21-2011, 11:34 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - - 09-21-2011, 12:00 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-21-2011, 12:04 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-21-2011, 12:07 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - - 09-21-2011, 12:11 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-21-2011, 12:14 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-21-2011, 12:14 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - - 09-21-2011, 12:15 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Grey Area - 09-21-2011, 03:18 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-21-2011, 12:17 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-21-2011, 12:21 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - 142857 - 09-21-2011, 01:21 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-21-2011, 01:29 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - 142857 - 09-21-2011, 01:44 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-21-2011, 01:39 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-21-2011, 03:21 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 03:24 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 03:09 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - windy - 09-21-2011, 05:09 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 05:21 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - windy - 09-21-2011, 05:43 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - windy - 09-21-2011, 05:26 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 06:47 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Marcia - 09-21-2011, 07:30 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - 142857 - 09-21-2011, 11:03 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - johnelderrobison - 09-21-2011, 07:53 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 08:11 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 08:28 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - - 09-21-2011, 10:44 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-21-2011, 10:48 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - - 09-21-2011, 11:01 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-22-2011, 12:56 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-22-2011, 01:00 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 01:07 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 01:54 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-22-2011, 01:10 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - skyblue1 - 09-22-2011, 01:17 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 01:35 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-22-2011, 01:19 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Marcia - 09-22-2011, 01:47 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Bloke - 09-22-2011, 01:32 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 01:43 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-22-2011, 02:05 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 02:26 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-22-2011, 01:48 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 02:11 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Duckfetishgirl - 09-22-2011, 02:13 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-22-2011, 02:15 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - ArianiaAmy - 09-22-2011, 02:36 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-22-2011, 02:43 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - d_olson27 - 09-22-2011, 02:50 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Aspie_Dad - 09-22-2011, 03:13 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 03:53 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Genesis - 09-22-2011, 03:22 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 05:16 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - funnygirl - 09-22-2011, 05:51 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 06:14 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-22-2011, 06:23 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Aspie_Dad - 09-22-2011, 07:31 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 08:34 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 06:34 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-22-2011, 06:45 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-22-2011, 02:12 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-22-2011, 05:07 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 07:35 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-22-2011, 08:06 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - wendyl - 09-22-2011, 10:10 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-22-2011, 11:03 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 03:55 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - wendyl - 09-22-2011, 10:14 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Bloke - 09-22-2011, 02:26 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - - 09-22-2011, 02:35 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-22-2011, 03:58 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-22-2011, 04:15 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 04:23 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Bloke - 09-22-2011, 03:14 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-22-2011, 04:09 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - wendyl - 09-22-2011, 03:34 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Ken G. - 09-22-2011, 05:04 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 05:33 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Genesis - 09-22-2011, 05:36 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-22-2011, 06:19 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Genesis - 09-22-2011, 06:23 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - skyblue1 - 09-22-2011, 07:50 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - 142857 - 09-22-2011, 11:24 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Bloke - 09-22-2011, 05:04 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Bloke - 09-22-2011, 05:07 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - - 09-22-2011, 05:27 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Bloke - 09-22-2011, 06:02 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 06:08 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Genesis - 09-22-2011, 06:09 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Grey Area - 09-22-2011, 07:09 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-22-2011, 07:19 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - windy - 09-22-2011, 08:05 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-22-2011, 06:40 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Bloke - 09-22-2011, 06:36 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Grey Area - 09-22-2011, 07:29 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - - 09-22-2011, 07:39 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Amplexus - 09-22-2011, 07:45 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 07:46 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Amplexus - 09-22-2011, 07:52 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 07:55 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - windy - 09-22-2011, 08:10 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 08:15 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Aspie_Dad - 09-23-2011, 02:49 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Amplexus - 09-22-2011, 08:00 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - skyblue1 - 09-22-2011, 08:18 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 08:34 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Amplexus - 09-22-2011, 08:23 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - skyblue1 - 09-22-2011, 08:41 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 08:43 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - windy - 09-22-2011 09:00 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Amplexus - 09-22-2011, 08:54 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - heterodox - 09-22-2011, 09:06 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 09:52 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - AlanTuring - 09-22-2011, 09:58 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - windy - 09-22-2011, 09:11 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - skyblue1 - 09-22-2011, 09:22 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - windy - 09-22-2011, 09:25 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - skyblue1 - 09-22-2011, 09:48 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-22-2011, 09:49 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - AlanTuring - 09-22-2011, 09:56 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-22-2011, 10:03 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Marcia - 09-22-2011, 10:07 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Duckfetishgirl - 09-22-2011, 10:36 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - windy - 09-22-2011, 10:40 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Duckfetishgirl - 09-22-2011, 10:55 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - AlanTuring - 09-23-2011, 02:05 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - heterodox - 09-22-2011, 10:18 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - windy - 09-22-2011, 10:27 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-22-2011, 10:25 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - micgrace - 09-22-2011, 10:27 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Halfspie - 09-22-2011, 10:56 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Grey Area - 09-22-2011, 11:18 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Grey Area - 09-23-2011, 12:08 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-22-2011, 11:06 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - 142857 - 09-22-2011, 11:43 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-23-2011, 03:30 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - BardWolf - 09-22-2011, 11:52 PM
RE: Autism Speaks - Duckfetishgirl - 09-23-2011, 01:03 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-23-2011, 01:35 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Grey Area - 09-23-2011, 01:37 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - BardWolf - 09-23-2011, 12:19 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Grey Area - 09-23-2011, 01:33 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - cynara - 09-23-2011, 12:50 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-23-2011, 12:59 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-23-2011, 03:24 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - BardWolf - 09-23-2011, 01:05 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-23-2011, 01:10 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - OtaBenga - 09-23-2011, 01:18 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - BardWolf - 09-23-2011, 01:19 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - skyblue1 - 09-23-2011, 01:22 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-23-2011, 01:36 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-23-2011, 01:45 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Grey Area - 09-23-2011, 01:50 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - AlanTuring - 09-23-2011, 02:16 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Kapkao - 09-23-2011, 03:37 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - mechanima - 09-23-2011, 02:21 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Duckfetishgirl - 09-23-2011, 03:12 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - BardWolf - 09-23-2011, 01:50 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Mytelli! - 09-23-2011, 01:52 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Genesis - 09-23-2011, 02:20 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Marcia - 09-23-2011, 02:31 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - tambourine-man - 09-23-2011, 02:54 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - BardWolf - 09-23-2011, 02:32 AM
RE: Autism Speaks - Aspie_Dad - 09-23-2011, 03:33 AM
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