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Autism Speaks, Our enemy (redux3)
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Mytelli!



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RE: Autism Speaks, Our enemy (redux3)

Okay, I will bite:

Kapkao Wrote:

Mytelli! Wrote:
'Do my homework' hmm. Do you mean 'do your homework' or 'instantly agree with our opinion and methods or I'll bite your head off'?

Homework:
I belive either Gareth or Amy have said two things. (I could have interpereted them wrong though)

First, free speech policy. That's self explanitory

Secondly, what I'm saying isn't totally out of whack with what they've said themselves; they wanted the name and the logo of AFF to be something positive, not aggressive despite their advicacy goals

Of course I don't agree with what Autism speaks has done. But how you conduct yourself in the face of adversity says alot about you.


Demonstrate that last part or it's total BS.


Not much I can do with that statment^


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Advicacy shouldn't only be about destruction (eg. tairing down an organistation) but making sure that the group you're advicating for is well supported. Otherwise you just become narrowly focused on just the one thing; destroying someone. What is the community left with if you all you've done is destroy something? Nothing, it will still be underfunded and in dire need of support. All I'm saying is, broaden your horizans.

Anger is something to be had in moderation.



I doubt this is something you would know a great deal about, given your abusive tone of 'discussion' at AFF so far. Not that I'm complaining... I've dealt with twatty posters before and I can easily fight fire with fire.

Also, I note how you say you've got better things to do than argue with Skyblue than write a near essay-length argument about what he initially said.


Okay point 1. my abusive tone

You've got to give me more than that. Tell me the occasion that I was abusive and what I said. Maby then I can tell you why I said what I said at the time. It depends on the context.

Point 2.
Yup, I changed my mind. Although I made my argumant about activism in general rather than the intricacies of his statment to save time.


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The narrow-mindedness excessive anger brings, auctually makes it much more difficult to bring harm to someone, if that's what you feel you need to do. Because you don't think about strategy when you're very angry. That's what leads to people just spamming their forums, and other things that don't work.

I have alot to be angry about, but I've decided not to let it be the driving force of what I do. I'm driven by empathy, and helping the community.


That's a joke, if I've ever heard one. If there is one thing you seem to specialize in, it is tell everyone else what (you think) they are doing wrong, and act self-absorbed while doing it.


Yea you may be right to some extent. Put it this way; I try to be primarily driven by empathy. I am quite an angry person in some contexts, I'll give you that.

You've got to find balance. A little bit of anger isn't a bad thing, but when you become consumed by it, bad things happen. I'm sorry if I've been unreasonable (again, you've got to give me a specific example) and I'm always trying to conduct myself better. Mabye pm me next time I say something offensive and we can sort it out.



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If something's in the way of that I'll do what I can to stop it from hindering me, but nothing is ever more going to be important than than helping an underfunded and neglected community.

By the by, I don't give a *** about having stars under my name or bieng in a group who's only goal is to be pissed off and not help the community themselves.

So think about it, what is activisme? Is it about hate? Is it about demanding things and attacking people who disagree with you?



Is it about toning down the public image you've pigeon-holed us into? Well, no... not really. But I see you are, if nothing else, an amusing master of hypocrisy.


I'm not sure how I've 'pigion holed' you into a particular public image.


Mytelli! Wrote:
Yea, auctually, that's a point; rationalism and objectivity doesn't stir people up very much.


If you are referring to your own rationalism and objectivity; where is it? I sure as hell don't see it.


It was a general statment about the way I see politics.



Yea, you're right. I was refering something to aim for rather than something I am. If I am angry and irrational I hope not to be, and this is a first step towards it; setting a goal.

It would help, if you had a talk to me about my behavior privatly, rather than trying to publicly insult me.

What I'm saying is, my goal is to go about this in a reasonable way, not becoming hatefull and fixated on a single organisation.



As far as my critisisme of AFF is concerned, I'm going to stick to my guns on one point. As a matter of fact, I'm going to be 'angry';

This organisation has put its hands up and called itself and activist organisation. You do not make a statment like that and just ignore people who come to the site wanting to know what they can do.

You just wait for me to vomit all over them;

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthre...?tid=23118

because that's the thing; you don't have anything to offer here except hatred. You can't tell people how to make a letter or email or phone call to an organisation, you can't give a straight answere on anything to do with activism let alone an answere at all, and none of the activists have ever told anyone what they've done to help the cause.


You just throw *** at people who criticise you, because that's all you have. Throwing it at your opposition is bad practice, but throwing it at people who are asking for help, is absolutly disgusting.

Nobody cares about the things that have happened to me, they just bite my head off because I want to do more than just complain to myself.

You had the opportunity to talk about your problems with me and you chose not to. Instead of treating me like a person who may have reasons for doing what I'm doing, you chose to just throw *** me.

What do you do when people just ignore you? when you've been deeply affected by something and people just ****ing ignore you, or insult you, or treat you like an idiot? You get angry. You get angry at the fact that all people have to offer here is hatred towards a single figure, and when you start to wonder why, they just throw their *** at you and start to hate you too. Just for disagreeing with them.

There is a reason why I am angry, and no one gives a *** why. They're just pissed off that I had the guts to criticise them.

There is a culture of hatred here and that's all that AFF is, it's what defines this place.

You can you can eat your own *** if you want, but I'm not joining in.



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10-02-2011 04:44 AM
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RE: Autism Speaks, Our enemy (redux3) - Kapkao - 09-18-2011, 02:56 AM
RE: Autism Speaks, Our enemy (redux3) - Kapkao - 09-18-2011, 03:35 AM
RE: Autism Speaks, Our enemy (redux3) - Kapkao - 10-01-2011, 03:12 PM
RE: Autism Speaks, Our enemy (redux3) - Kapkao - 10-02-2011, 08:47 AM
RE: Autism Speaks, Our enemy (redux3) - Mytelli! - 10-02-2011 04:44 AM
RE: Autism Speaks, Our enemy (redux3) - Kapkao - 10-02-2011, 08:45 AM
RE: Autism Speaks, Our enemy (redux3) - Kapkao - 10-02-2011, 11:40 AM
RE: Autism Speaks, Our enemy (redux3) - Kapkao - 10-02-2011, 03:54 PM

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