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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
I saw Adam and I thought the actor did a great job playing someone with AS. But I can't recommend the movie because in the end, the girl does not end up with him and it sends the message that says "if you know someone with AS, don't bother having a relationship with them because they are too strange"
People with AS have enough trouble with relationships without having a mainstream movie tell people not to bother. Weather or not that message was the intent, thats the message that was sent.
Mozart and the Whale was based on a real life couple, the man with AS wrote the book its based on.
spolier alert - I disagree that the ending (of Adam) was not good- I thought the ending was the best part... I did not actually like the movie very much - I agree an actual aspie actor would have done better. But as far as ethe ending ... he went to a place better suited to him.. he likes open spaces-- he ends up in where-- california or somewhere NON-CITY, gorgeaous sky, it is beautiful and a pretty girl seeks him out and sits next to him, seems quite naturally interested in him, as he is, He is comfortable with himself (now)- he does not need a woman to complete him...(save him - he is better than surviving isn't he at the end?) he is now in a less sensory stressful environment with a career that is satisfying... he is happy so he is attracting - or will attract - a female that is better / more ideal for him. Everyone's first girlfriends/loves may not be the one? THAT is a more realistic ending.
That said I will rewatch both movies.. see if I still see the same thing.
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| 04-27-2012 05:22 PM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
spolier alert - I disagree that the ending (of Adam) was not good- I thought the ending was the best part... I did not actually like the movie very much - I agree an actual aspie actor would have done better. But as far as ethe ending ... he went to a place better suited to him.. he likes open spaces-- he ends up in where-- california or somewhere NON-CITY, gorgeaous sky, it is beautiful and a pretty girl seeks him out and sits next to him, seems quite naturally interested in him, as he is, He is comfortable with himself (now)- he does not need a woman to complete him...(save him - he is better than surviving isn't he at the end?) he is now in a less sensory stressful environment with a career that is satisfying... he is happy so he is attracting - or will attract - a female that is better / more ideal for him. Everyone's first girlfriends/loves may not be the one? THAT is a more realistic ending.
That said I will rewatch both movies.. see if I still see the same thing.
I agree with you about how the ending was happy and the best part of the movie. Even though Adam didn't "get the girl", he ended up in a place where he truly belonged, which on the whole is more important. Relationships can be fickle and fleeting; a supportive environment is what truly matters in life.
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| 04-27-2012 08:29 PM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
I bought both Mozart... and Adam DVDs and I didn't regret it. Although both have their deficits. Mozart... totally ignores the RL events later on (they get divorced, so only HE gets to comment the movie); Adam hs its pros and cons but on the whole I think it's still ok. And who needs a "happy ending" - it shows how Aspies get happy with their Special Interests, I think that's ok.
Again: Snow Cake ... brilliant.
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| 04-27-2012 10:06 PM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
Whats kind of funny is Hugh Dancy, the actor that played Adam is married to Claire Daines. The actress that won an emmy for playing Temple Grandin in the HBO movie.
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| 04-27-2012 10:53 PM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
I saw Adam and I thought the actor did a great job playing someone with AS. But I can't recommend the movie because in the end, the girl does not end up with him and it sends the message that says "if you know someone with AS, don't bother having a relationship with them because they are too strange"
People with AS have enough trouble with relationships without having a mainstream movie tell people not to bother. Whether or not that message was the intent, thats the message that was sent.
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Wasn't there an alternative ending on the DVD?
Furthermore: why should the problems maintaining an AS-NT-relationship be glossed over - I found Adam's new job very satisfying and far more interesting than a relationship (although in RL I am in a relationship, and, sadly, no astronomer)
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| 04-28-2012 10:28 PM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
I agree with you about how the ending was happy and the best part of the movie. Even though Adam didn't "get the girl", he ended up in a place where he truly belonged, which on the whole is more important. Relationships can be fickle and fleeting; a supportive environment is what truly matters in life.
Meh; I'm sick of ending up where I belong and being told to value friends and supportive environments over the possibility of romantic relationships. Those are important, but, I mean, it'd be nice to actually 'get the girl'. Sometime. Once in a while.
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| 04-28-2012 11:21 PM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
I liked the movie Adam. My husband found the movie to be freaky because he said it told the story of our relationship in opposite reverse. My name is Beth but I am the one with the condition and in the movie it was Adam who had it, not her and she reads Pretending to be Normal. My husband read that book too when I wanted him to understand AS more. I also love mac and cheese and the movie made it out to be an aspie thing but I think it was a coincidence. But my husband did agree with me Adam was more effected by the condition than me. Plus I thought it was exaggerated too stereotypical and my husband agreed there too.
But yet at the end, he was all of a sudden normal and can aspies really improve in a year they all of a sudden appear NT than aspie? Plus he offered to take the boxes from the woman and I just figured it was because he liked her but my husband told me it was because he learned that skill. In the movie when Beth said she was going to take her groceries up, I didn't pick up on he was supposed to help her. I would have done the exact same thing he did. Thinking she told me she is taking her groceries up so I would know she is leaving so I am not talking into thin air and then realize she is gone, so i can imagine that is what Adam thought as well.
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| 04-29-2012 08:31 AM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
I agree with you about how the ending was happy and the best part of the movie. Even though Adam didn't "get the girl", he ended up in a place where he truly belonged, which on the whole is more important. Relationships can be fickle and fleeting; a supportive environment is what truly matters in life.
Meh; I'm sick of ending up where I belong and being told to value friends and supportive environments over the possibility of romantic relationships. Those are important, but, I mean, it'd be nice to actually 'get the girl'. Sometime. Once in a while.
I drink my coffee like I live my life- bitter and compulsively.
Yeah we may pretty much all be nerds but that doesn't mean we all don't have a social life or want to spend most all our time alone. I mean I kinda see what Windy is saying like he moved on and is happy and he didn't need her but I wouldn't like to see every reference to Aspies in the media to suggest we can't have relationships or relationships with non Aspies because that is an untrue stereotype.
Has anyone seen Community, that Abed guy is supposed to be Aspergers, the show is just wierd in general so I can't take anything on it too seriously, the one part that made me cringe is where this one girls like yeah you got no empathy. Such a false stereotype
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| 04-30-2012 01:46 AM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
Abed doesn't represent everyone with Asperger's. There are lots of Aspies with too much empathy. I've been told I was one of them.
Of course, the extent of Abed's eccentricities largely depends on who wrote the particular episode.
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| 04-30-2012 09:37 PM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
I saw it last night for the first time. But I missed the first hour.
I liked it. I think Beth would have followed him to California at the end if he had only been able to express how he felt about her. I think he really loved her but he just didn't show/say it in the way she wanted him to show/say it.
When he freaked out when he found out that Beth had lied to him... it was too much like a childish tantrum. I know that I take it way too hard if someone lies to me, but I don't throw stuff around and carry on like a pork chop.
Another thing is that, I guess for dramatic effect and clarity, when Adam doesn't understand something or when he doesn't know what to do next he expresses that he doesn't understand and asks what he should do. In real life I would guess that it is much more likely that the aspie guy would simply miss the cues altogether, or fail to do anything.
And the movie did remind me a lot of my first relationship. Although I was the calm but clueless one in that relationship, with a girl who was way out of my league at just about every level. My relationship was more complicated, as neither of us was "normal" (she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder, but refused to take medication for it, so it was a scary ride at times).
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| 06-18-2012 06:11 PM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
I'm sorry and I don't want to derail this thread and this is a stupid question, but wth is the movie Adam ?
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| 06-18-2012 06:46 PM |
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| 06-18-2012 08:50 PM |
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Phillip J Fry
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
Oh thanks
I didn't know it was YouTube. but I'll watch it in a bit. Thank you Windy.
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| 06-18-2012 09:21 PM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
Oh it's like Mozart and the whale excpet the guy has Asperger's and the girl doesn't
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| 06-18-2012 09:30 PM |
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RE: Does anyone else find movies like Adam to be really annoying?
I saw this clip off of a Science Channel program (Forgot what's it called) but here's the clip from youtube [url=]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5hLDBA594o&feature=related[/url]
It's a documentary I think :/
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| 06-18-2012 09:38 PM |
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