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My response to an argument Wrote:
Lady.... the only problem we see is just stupidity of the public, You're all not aware that the public can sometimes be gullible to good publicity.

Especially when they all realize that there is easier ways of improving their LFA child then the ones Autism Speaks is so eager to pass on to people.

I am a High Functioning Autistic, I see things a little differently, and what I see is just random stupidity everywhere, also even if there is "slight" "supposed" improvements, they'll always have it, you can't get rid of it like you can get rid of a sickness, its a part of who we are as humans. We're flawed creatures we're not perfect. So try stop falling for a flawed tactic. Open your eyes for once and see the world as it is.


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done.
Btw i sent you a friend request. But dont forget i'm not totaly "out of the closet" so to speak. Careful what you wrote on my wall.

I'm about to. If it says Harry Graham has sent you a friend request, that's me.



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I've sent you one - it says, as a message, Hello from the Autist World of Great Britain...


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I've just reported something they put on the discussion board, but I doubt anything will happen so I'm going to post something instead.



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I've just posted something. It's not that good but it's a start. As it says in the post, the things that I want to say about Autism Speaks would get me banned from Facebook.



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How can Autism Speaks ban someone from Facebook? That doesn't make any sense to me.


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I could not read the conversation on your wall because we are not "friends".... I will add you as a friend, if that's okay. I did notice that there was a lot of information that I could see about you, essentially as a stranger, including your work history, and your date of birth. I don't know if this is intentional or not on your part. I am pretty paranoid about people knowing this information about me...

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Oh, and I'm more or less "out", but as I'm not formally diagnosed, I don't talk about it a whole lot unless it's with close friends. You can write anything you want on my wall, though!

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wendyl Wrote:
I could not read the conversation on your wall because we are not "friends".... I will add you as a friend, if that's okay. I did notice that there was a lot of information that I could see about you, essentially as a stranger, including your work history, and your date of birth. I don't know if this is intentional or not on your part. I am pretty paranoid about people knowing this information about me...

If it's me, the work history thing is a joke. One part of my school is a joke, but I did wish that I went to Hogwarts...
The reason why my accont is like that is. Loads of people who are at my high school and my other high school also ahave facebook, it's to prevent cyberbullying.



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RE: Autism Speaks contacted me on Facebook...

They replied to my post...


Here is what I put...

Me. Wrote:
Autism isn't a bad thing, stop saying that it is all you're doing is hurting and offending people. You don't care about autistic people atall. You don't represent them in any way. In case you're wondering who I am, I'm 15 and have asbergers. This things I could say about Autism Speaks would have me banned from Facebook. But how dare you think you can cure Autism, the very idea of a Autism-free world is madness. Although I don't think it mentons that here but in other things you have said that you want a world without Autism. The very idea makes my blood boil!


Then they put.

lying bastar*s aka Autism not speaks [two names I call them Wrote:
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I am sorry that you feel that way Harry. I don't believe that I have ever inferred that in any way. In fact I know that I embrace Corbin's autism. I would never have him any other way. I know that this post was written a while ago. I was writing from the perspective of a Mother that was just coming to terms with this diagnosis that I really didn't know anything about at the time. Imagine how I may have felt. I know it is difficult to put yourself in a strangers shoes but I was really scared. And not at the fact that my son would not be "perfect" because to me he already was. I was scared that I would be unable to be a good Mother to him. That because I knew nothing of this thing I would somehow miss an important step in his development. I have learned that I am very good at being his mother. Better than anyone else could ever be. God chose me to be his Mom for a reason I truly believe that. He is flourishing and doing wonderfully now. I do not seek to cure him. I love him just the way he is. My only hope at this time is that he will be able to take care of himself when he is older. That he will do something that he loves and find someone that will love him just the way he is. That they will love him unconditionally like I do. I want nothing but happiness and love for him in his life. I agree that I have been questioning the organization for some time but I do not really have enough research of my own to form a worthy opinion. I have not been raising funds for their organization for over a year. I am considering deleting this page, and I would have simply changed the name of it a long time ago if Facebook rules would allow it. I do not know what you have read that you feel I would like to see a world without autism. If anything I have only been pushing for AWARENESS and ACCEPTANCE. I wish you well. If you wish to reply please feel free to write on my wall or to send me a message. I read that FB will be removing the discussions tab at the end of the month.



It took them this long to come up with a response. This long to come up with more bullshi* lies.



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Some_Bloke Wrote:
I don't believe that I have ever inferred that in any way.


*implied
Sorry, I had to correct that. Shy


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shrinkingviolet Wrote:

Some_Bloke Wrote:
I don't believe that I have ever inferred that in any way.


*implied
Sorry, I had to correct that. Shy

They've actually made the mistake, I copied and pasted it from Facebook.



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RE: Autism Speaks contacted me on Facebook...

And this is what they put on their wall...

lying bastards aka Autism not Speaks Wrote:
I am saddened to read in my discussion tab that someone would think that I hate autism and would rather it be banished from the world. Just so you all know how I stand on this issue. I assure you that is the opposite of how I feel. I love my son. He is on the autism spectrum and he is BRILLIANTLY GIFTED. I would NEVER CHANGE a thing about him and I wish that the world could change. I wish that everyone would embrace others for who they are. Stop trying to change PEOPLE and change ATTITUDES. Everyone needs to be AWARE of autism so we can be free of the negativity associated with it. I admit when Corbin was diagnosed at only 2 years old I was scared. I still fear the future and only hope that I can continue to learn and we as a family can continue to make strides in the right direction. God bless!


ASSHOLES!!

*Coughs* BULLSHI* BULLOX A LOAD OF CRAP *Coughs*

Now, I'm off to rant... When the Nazi replies, I'll post it here...



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me Wrote:
To prove you wrong, here's a quote from Dana Marnana the director of Communications and Marketing data of your "charity"

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_o3cuuU1SjbA/Rl...e-dana.gif

Read it a weep. Try denying your aims now...

Don't try to deny it. Dana said that, expressing the aim of your "charity". If that isn't truly your aim, sack some people in your "charity" who try to make it that way. I know you won't as you agree with them. Or mabey you don't it's the aim of your "charity". But the truth is, you're trying to lie to me and it's not working.


This is what I put, just waiting for the fuc*ers to come up with more bullshi* lies.



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Some_Bloke Wrote:

me Wrote:
To prove you wrong, here's a quote from Dana Marnana the director of Communications and Marketing data of your "charity"

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_o3cuuU1SjbA/Rl...e-dana.gif

Read it a weep. Try denying your aims now...

Don't try to deny it. Dana said that, expressing the aim of your "charity". If that isn't truly your aim, sack some people in your "charity" who try to make it that way. I know you won't as you agree with them. Or mabey you don't it's the aim of your "charity". But the truth is, you're trying to lie to me and it's not working.


This is what I put, just waiting for the fuc*ers to come up with more bullshi* lies.


There are parents using the autism speaks support page on facebook to find support amongst each other.  It doesn't mean they have to align themselves with the organization's goals.  Autism Speaks supports vaccination and there are still some parents that go to that site that discuss they believe vaccines may still play a role in causing autism.  

The parent you are talking to is expressing a neurodiverse point of view about her son, that has changed since she first posted there.  She doesn't have to believe in a cure or anything else that it is believed that autism speaks stands for, just because she is on a support site that many parents use to talk amongst each other.

The more parents that think like her that express this opinion on the support site, the more likely it is that the autism speaks organization is going to move toward a neurodiverse portrayal of autism.  That's a good thing; it could help people understand autism better, and hopefully autistic people will be understood and treated better in the world.

A person is not required to donate to autism speaks, or even support autism speaks to talk to other people on that website.  They don't even have to understand anything about what autism speaks does.

There are diverse people that come to the AFF site with diverse opinions about everything in the world.  It's the same on any internet discussion board.  We live in a free country with freedom of speech, as long as we play by the rules of private discussion boards.

It's a support site for people associated with autism provided by autism speaks, not a support site for autism speaks. Rarely do you even hear anyone talking about autism speaks on the support part of it. Just a bunch of people getting support from each other, like they are here, at WP or any other autism support site, designed for the public.

In my opinion you are fighting a dog that is not in the fight.

You are calling this lady a bunch of nasty names, here, and she isn't saying anything to you to deserve it, on an objective basis.  It's obvious to anyone that reads the correspondence from an objective point of view.

If one disagrees with Dana marname's quote on the epidemic of autism, they can call her out on it, by emailing her directly.  Parents don't pick the hyerbole slogans these marketing folks use, but if enough people express that they don't like them, the slogans will change.  That's marketing 101, if they don't respond appropriately to customer input, they won't last long in their jobs.

I could care less what hyperbole expression is used regarding epidemic,  I have enough sense to know that autism numbers are going to increase because of better diagnostic procedures in the future, instead of decrease. There is no objective proof of an epidemic other than statistical numbers that are in fact at least part of the result of better diagnostic procedures, and improved methods of gathering data. Those methods and diagnostic procedures will improve in the future, and greater numbers are almost inevitable.

But, if I wanted to stop the hyperbole expression I would email Dana Marname directly with her autism speaks email adress and state: Ms Marname, VP of Public Relations, Autism Speaks,  In light of the recent interview that you provided to the autistic community regarding a cure and eradicating autism, since you recently publically stated in that interview that eradicating autism was not a goal of autism speaks, your slogan listed by your bio, on the autism speaks website, states "we are going to end this epidemic of autism" sounds like your goal is to eradicate autism.  I and others in the autistic community find that statement offensive and suggest you remove it from your website.

If ending the epidemic of autism does not mean eradicating it, what is it that you mean by that statement?

Respectfully, ******

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