I'm really, really pissed off now.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17952940

You remember this guy, right? I hope you do and I hope you feel a similar way to me in this case...

I watched footage and read transcripts from his trial recently. The way he talks. He's a "criminal mastermind", they won't give him the death penalty as some people will view him as a martyr. Then again it is much, much more likely that he will want to be given the death penalty so he can be seen as a martyr to his "cause". They stopped televising it, as being on television and getting his sick views across is exactly what he wants.

He is an example of someone in death, you should never respect.

It's not fear of making him a martyr that stops 'them' giving him the death penalty. We don't actually have capital punishment in the EU. Killing him would be murder.

And pointless. Get over it. You didn't go to jail, lose your home, starve or get transported to the colonies. It was an effing detention for Christ's sake!

What sort of AB?

This thread needs to be resurrected now that Thatcher's dead.

Margaret Thatcher and misapplied death etiquette

The "respecting the dead" rule dates from a time when everyone was convinced they could "strike back" from beyond the grave. So there.

Ummm... No. The first recorded use of a phrase similar to 'Don't speak ill of the dead' comes from Chilon of Sparta in 600 BC and translates as 'Do not speak evil of the dead.' It refers to a social convention, not a fear of being f*cked up by an angry ghost.

Oh, ok, thanks, didn't know that.
As I read it, it seems that Chilon invented (phrased) those sentences.

This post was last modified: 04-10-2013 09:37 PM by Shnoing.

I don't know very much about Thatcher, but considering some of the people who listed her as one of their heros, I'm not sure I'm missing out.  

In any case, I am reminded of Hitchens' response to the death of Jerry Falwell, as well as the frequent rumours that travel around whenever a very famous and accomplished atheist dies.  You know, the one about "death bed conversions" which so far as I know actually happen more frequently among prisoners than they do among academics.  If it's unacceptable for an atheist to talk *** about a dead televangelist, what exactly makes it acceptable for religious people to tell lies about people who died atheists?

What does it even mean to respect the dead anyway?  If a ton of people are murdered by one person, and you say that the guy who did it is a *** ***, are you disrespecting the dead?  What about when the murderer dies?  Really what's in need of respect is truth and accuracy.  I don't know why someone like Hitchens would be expected to find something nice to say about Jerry Falwell, or for that matter why anyone else would be.

I think it depends on the person and what you believe they contributed to society during their lifetimes. I can honestly say that I was glad to hear someone died because i felt that either they were way too over rated even though they had no talent whatsoever or were a major threat to the lives of many innocent people. This is just my opinion and I must say very few have fallen into the category where I feel no sorrow for their death.

The phrase has been reused in many cultures since. Chilon was the first recorded progenitor of the phrase but I think we can safely assume the social convention and phrase predate him.

I honestly think that the 'closet Michael Jackson fans' are worse than the people who spit on his grave... it's not respect if you didn't like the person in life, it's a final insult.

I did see a blog by Kassiane about her mother and I do agree with her about just because her mom is dead now, she will not shut up about her abuse she suffered from her. Yeah why should she be silent now about her past and sweep it under the rug?

If Dave Pelzer kept his mouth shut, there would have been no A Child Called 'It' because his mom was already dead when he wrote it.

Even history would be censored and people wouldn't have known much about WWII because Hitler is dead. You wouldn't be able to say anymore how he took over countries and killed over 6,000,000 Jews and also killed disabled and mentally ill people.

If saying about Rosa Parks that the bis driver had her arrested for refusing to give up her seat talking bad of him, then that history would be censored too because he passed away in 2002.

But apparently saying about this one man who was an AB (adult baby) that lot of people with that fetish hated him because he walked around dressed up as a baby in public was speaking bad of him. Okay so if someone asks online what is with the beef people had about him, I can't say anymore why they had a beef about him because it would be speaking bad of him?

Do you see what is so wrong with "speaking of the dead" rule?