What they mean by respecting the dead, is if they were a decent person. If they were lets say rapist, child molester and murderer, then you shouldn't. What does annoy me is that Derek Bird [a serial killer] is respected and is know of one of the victims of the day he killed eleven people [he is counted as the twelfth "victim"]. I can see why Hitler, Bin Laden and Husane aren't respected. But Derek Bird, a man who in one day killed eleven people. Is respected, it just makes me go "WTF is that all about!" My point is that only decent and beyond human beings [and animals] should be respected, that also may go for fiction [which may include aliens and machines]. I'm just getting across that I'm pissed that a serial killer is being respected as a "victim".

I'm waiting for my ex to die (his end will be satisfactorily painful as he's drunk his liver and pancreas into submission) and then I'm getting my little dancing shoes on and I'm gonna dance on his grave.
I might even take a picnic with me and savour the moment.

When the man who molested 0me dies, I will happily piss 0and *** on his grave.

I looked up Derek Bird - I remember that case now. I couldn't find any references to him being respected. He sounds like a complete **** to me actually.

I did see some discussions that suggested Raoul Moat - another guy who went on a shooting rampage and killed 3 people and then himself - is considered a hero by some.

I find it hard to fathom why people would idolise someone like that.

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I do think it is quite health having a discussion about someone close who has died> It helps with the grieving process no end. I know this from my recent experience. Don't bottle up the bad stuff, don't forget the good. Then move on never forgetting but forgiving them for the bad they did and remembering them for the good they did.

"killed 3 people"
2, actually...? 3 including himself. He blinded one guy, though...

Two, including himself. The ex-girlfriend and the policeman survived. Horribly wounded, but alive.

I think I saw "shot 3 people" when I was skimming a blog I found when I was googling "Derek Bird Hero". Regardless, Moat was a thug and a murderer and an attempted-multiple-murderer who doesn't deserve anyone's respect.

Oh, I don't care about "respecting the dead" either. I have yet to meet someone even supporting the "they're not there to defend themselves" rule that has kept their mouth sewn at all times about anyone they know - they can all be caught venting, etc. Sense alone tells me they're not following it. So it's a high chance people like that are hypocrites anyway. As if a lot wouldn't just deny things or try to argue with you on it anyway, and what if you don't want to be bothered with their voices or more rudeness? CX. They shouldn't be jerks in the first place.

I remember the time I was on Babycenter, there was this woman who made a thread about how an old teacher from her school passed away and she refuses to say anything about her because she has nothing nice to say and she will not pretend. She wanted to know if she was wrong for it because she will always remember the teacher as the b*tch because she gave her detention in 7th grade for something she didn't do and the teacher refused to believe her. Now that she has died, she refuses to say anything good about her because she still sees her as that horrible person. Good for her. She could bad talk her and look like a bad person or keep her mouth shut and she picked keeping her mouth shut.

I always tell jokes about famous people when they die. Particularly about their manner of death. Even if I liked their work. I've already got some lined up for when Robin Gibb finally succumbs.

I read he was out of coma

I'm really, really pissed off now.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-17952940

You remember this guy, right? I hope you do and I hope you feel a similar way to me in this case...

I watched footage and read transcripts from his trial recently. The way he talks. He's a "criminal mastermind", they won't give him the death penalty as some people will view him as a martyr. Then again it is much, much more likely that he will want to be given the death penalty so he can be seen as a martyr to his "cause". They stopped televising it, as being on television and getting his sick views across is exactly what he wants.

He is an example of someone in death, you should never respect.

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Mmm... that post about getting a detention for something one didn't do reminds me of when I was accused by this son's mom of video taping a beating of her son! It would be hard to feel sorry for her if she died. I'd still be thinking about that senseless and automatic assumption. Iwouldn't be like YAY, I mean I'll LIVE, it isn't like I was accused of murdering someone but yeah. CX

Anyway she got my phone and said I probably deleted it so I wouldn't get in trouble, didn't let me talk or defend myself, etc. Why the hell would I tape something to be sent or spread or whatever, and then delete it before it sits there long enough to be spread? She took me by *surprise*, no idea I'd get in trouble or get confronted by her. Anyway her son looked fine besides his shirt being off his shoulder a twinge and that usual hyper/crazy look in his eyes. She even gave details of what we supposedly "did".  Ugh. I was certainly caught off guard because when Daniel's father came out he just told all to play nice- he wouldn't react that way to the same story his WIFE told. But he didn't even say anything and he heard what she was saying. So whatever, idk.

What really happened was that this kid was egging one of us girls to have some kind of wrestle or fight with Daniel, 8 year old boy. I was 13 years old. It wasn't supposed to be a real fight, anyway. Just some kind of play thing. My sister wasn't actually pumped to randomly fight this kid. She got angry and pushed him- all he did was go back a few steps. He did not even fall on the ground. When she continued shouting things at him was when he ran away. Later she told me that he touched her chest. It may have even been a complete accident because I was watching and did not see this but she was mad about SOMETHING. It must have been either a light poke or some kind of mistake on his part. Or maybe even her part- maybe he didnt even touch her chest.  Anyway, I taped no sort of fight, and never would. It really pissed me off that I  of all people was accused of taping the jumping of an 8 year old boy, I wouldn't even WATCH something like that. She was so beyond wrong! She said that her son never lies! I got even more angry when I found out he was pulling crap with other neighborhood kids and she believed him each time! the heck!? So everyone just decides to play with your son and randomly do crap to him, eh? Why the heck do you think that even is? (no obvious reason for anyone, especially people new to neighborhood, to do so).

I tried to explain this to his older sister but when I brought him up she went "Oh, danny?" in this sweet voice. I just thought "oh, forget it." and said never mind. He doesn't even LOOK like an angel. He must have spells up his sleeve. He looks like a crazy hyper kid, and you can tell it's him when you spot him without even seeing his face or hearing his voice ffs! Just his body and his running or walking or his physical behavior!

Did I mention he had the nerve to wink at me later that day when we were out selling lemonade/watching the main sellers sell lemonade as if he didn't falsely sell us out?

I'm not mad at Daniel anymore though. Maybe it's because he didn't keep up the act "I'm mad at you guys for what you did" as if he even told the truth act. At first he said he wasn't allowed to play with us, would get all snotty or rude with me, etc. By the time I saw him in this girl's garage, (I was scared that he popped out of nowhere and thought he was going to say something rude to me for being in his crush's garage) it seemed to have disappeared and we even all played hide and seek tag. (lol, I sound like a little kid even though I was 13 :p xD). I hope he isn't continuing to lie on the neighborhood kids though.

Even though it's been about 3 years I'm still mad! I wished and still wish he was caught in a lie one day so that his mom would quit saying he never lies. Maybe even a talk about all his past lying and how he's sorry, bla bla, but that's even less likely.

Anyway so I'm angry about it. If I was PUNISHED for something I never did, like getting detention... whew... maybe I'd learn how to turn red when angry on command! I actually was punished once, in 1st grade. The music teacher told us not to lip sync, and I was not lip syncing, yet I was one of the people he picked out as lip syncing and he wouldn't hear me defending myself. I think I had to write something or something of the sort. I think his name was Jack Prusinsky (something very similar to that at least), he reminds me of the name Jack Prelutsky, and he had a gray ponytail and glasses. He also seemed rather old, at least middle aged. I will avenge myself, Jack Prusinsky or whatever your name is.

No but seriously if I ever saw him, I'd tell him that he punished me in the 1st grade for something I didn't do once! I however would be at least a bit sad if he died. So that's the difference between my anger with him and that Daniel's mom chick.

holy crap that post was long.