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skyblue1
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RE: Anti-Statism
great deal of sarcasm on both sides of the discussion.
I`ll go with what I know also
I'm not anti-social; I'm just not user friendly
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| 08-10-2011 12:54 AM |
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AnarchistSage
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RE: Anti-Statism
Until someone can convince me that a stateless society is genuinely sustainable, and not just in some highly theoretical sense, then I think I'll stick with the devil I know.
Look at how many people have been converted by this thread to thinking that anti-statism is workable. Abso-f***ing-lutely nobody. And for it to be workable you would have to convince just about everyone that it was a great idea. That fact alone is enough for me.
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That still doesn't answer this question.
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Now tell me why you support the use of threats against me for refusing to pay for things you think are important for society and abiding by your rules, notice i say "you think" because it is just your opinion in the end.
I just want to know why you think you are justified in ruling over me.
If you can convince me then there is obviously no problem.
Sticking with something that you know doesn't work well is a sign of ignorance and close mindedness.
"The state is maintained by one thing alone: Ignorance."
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| 08-10-2011 12:56 AM |
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skyblue1
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RE: Anti-Statism
Until someone can convince me that a stateless society is genuinely sustainable, and not just in some highly theoretical sense, then I think I'll stick with the devil I know.
Look at how many people have been converted by this thread to thinking that anti-statism is workable. Abso-f***ing-lutely nobody. And for it to be workable you would have to convince just about everyone that it was a great idea. That fact alone is enough for me.
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That still doesn't answer this question.
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Now tell me why you support the use of threats against me for refusing to pay for things you think are important for society and abiding by your rules, notice i say "you think" because it is just your opinion in the end.
I just want to know why you think you are justified in ruling over me.
If you can convince me then there is obviously no problem.
Sticking with something that you know doesn't work well is a sign of ignorance and close mindedness.
you havent, from what I have seen, said where you are or where you are coming from, in your posts. So your question cant be answered.
I'm not anti-social; I'm just not user friendly
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| 08-10-2011 01:02 AM |
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Kapkao
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RE: Anti-Statism
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That still doesn't answer this question.
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Now tell me why you support the use of threats against me for refusing to pay for things you think are important for society and abiding by your rules, notice i say "you think" because it is just your opinion in the end.
I just want to know why you think you are justified in ruling over me.
If you can convince me then there is obviously no problem.
Sticking with something that you know doesn't work well is a sign of ignorance and close mindedness.
You don't have any bargaining power over me or him, and I don't have to convince you of shit. You want to live in a place where there is no governing body to provide law & order over the populace, be my guest and move to such a place. If you want the remainder of your nation's populace to kowtow down to the demands of you and a few thousand other anarchists, you're more deluded than I thought.
We'll see.
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| 08-10-2011 01:10 AM |
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skyblue1
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RE: Anti-Statism
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That still doesn't answer this question.
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Now tell me why you support the use of threats against me for refusing to pay for things you think are important for society and abiding by your rules, notice i say "you think" because it is just your opinion in the end.
I just want to know why you think you are justified in ruling over me.
If you can convince me then there is obviously no problem.
Sticking with something that you know doesn't work well is a sign of ignorance and close mindedness.
You don't have any bargaining power over me or him, and I don't have to convince you of shit. You want to live in a place where there is no governing body to provide law & order over the populace, be my guest and move to such a place. If you want the remainder of your nation's populace to kowtow down to the demands of you and a few thousand other anarchists, you're more deluded than I thought.
We'll see.
nice post.
I'm not anti-social; I'm just not user friendly
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| 08-10-2011 01:15 AM |
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AnarchistSage
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RE: Anti-Statism
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That still doesn't answer this question.
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Now tell me why you support the use of threats against me for refusing to pay for things you think are important for society and abiding by your rules, notice i say "you think" because it is just your opinion in the end.
I just want to know why you think you are justified in ruling over me.
If you can convince me then there is obviously no problem.
Sticking with something that you know doesn't work well is a sign of ignorance and close mindedness.
You don't have any bargaining power over me or him, and I don't have to convince you of shit. You want to live in a place where there is no governing body to provide law & order over the populace, be my guest and move to such a place. If you want the remainder of your nation's populace to kowtow down to the demands of you and a few thousand other anarchists, you're more deluded than I thought.
We'll see.
Oh god the "love it or leave it" argument.
"If you don't like it then leave"
Why doesn't the government just leave the property i worked to obtain?
Also why does the government have the ability to implement laws over land that i obtained through peaceful interactions?
You do have to convince me if you want me to take your argument seriously. Now if your way of convincing me is by threatening me then that's fine, that just shows that instead of arguing you've resorted to bullying and don't care about achieving truth and ways to improve society.
Its not about bargaining power is about something being legitimate, i could have all the armies in the world and not be able to say 1+1=3 and have it be deemed legitimate unless i have an ideological structure in place.
"The state is maintained by one thing alone: Ignorance."
This post was last modified: 08-10-2011 01:20 AM by AnarchistSage.
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| 08-10-2011 01:19 AM |
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piePIEpie
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RE: Anti-Statism
Anarchy is the stupidest idea ever.
I believe god made us in his image.
I also believe god is a monkey.
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| 08-10-2011 01:20 AM |
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AnarchistSage
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Anarchy is the stupidest idea ever.
I agree thats why im a Market Anarchist,Anarcho-Capitalist,Anti Statist.
Capitalism/Free Markets are a way of life.
"The state is maintained by one thing alone: Ignorance."
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| 08-10-2011 01:22 AM |
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skyblue1
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RE: Anti-Statism
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That still doesn't answer this question.
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Now tell me why you support the use of threats against me for refusing to pay for things you think are important for society and abiding by your rules, notice i say "you think" because it is just your opinion in the end.
I just want to know why you think you are justified in ruling over me.
If you can convince me then there is obviously no problem.
Sticking with something that you know doesn't work well is a sign of ignorance and close mindedness.
You don't have any bargaining power over me or him, and I don't have to convince you of shit. You want to live in a place where there is no governing body to provide law & order over the populace, be my guest and move to such a place. If you want the remainder of your nation's populace to kowtow down to the demands of you and a few thousand other anarchists, you're more deluded than I thought.
We'll see.
Oh god the "love it or leave it" argument.
"If you don't like it then leave"
Why doesn't the government just leave the property i worked to obtain?
Also why does the government have the ability to implement laws over land that i obtained through peaceful interactions?
You do have to convince me if you want me to take your argument seriously. Now if your way of convincing me is by threatening me then that's fine, that just shows that instead of arguing you've resorted to bullying and don't care about achieving truth and ways to improve society.
Its not about bargaining power is about something being legitimate, i could have all the armies in the world and not be able to say 1+1=3 and have it be deemed legitimate unless i have an ideological structure in place.
You still havent said what country you are in,
Sound like dtx to me.
I'm not anti-social; I'm just not user friendly
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| 08-10-2011 01:23 AM |
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piePIEpie
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RE: Anti-Statism
Correction I thought anarchy was the stupidest thing ever until I heard of anarcho-capitalism.
I believe god made us in his image.
I also believe god is a monkey.
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| 08-10-2011 01:25 AM |
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AnarchistSage
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RE: Anti-Statism
Correction I thought anarchy was the stupidest thing ever until I heard of anarcho-capitalism.
Then you thought Anarchy was REALLY the stupidest idea ever?
XD
"The state is maintained by one thing alone: Ignorance."
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| 08-10-2011 01:28 AM |
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Kapkao
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RE: Anti-Statism
You do have to convince me if you want me to take your argument seriously. Now if your way of convincing me is by threatening me then that's fine, that just shows that instead of arguing you've resorted to bullying and don't care about achieving truth and ways to improve society.
I don't care if you take my argument seriously, and I'm not the government. I have noticed, that you seem to prefer to have other people carry most of the burden of the argument by defending their ideologies in place of you defending yours. I've also noticed you're quite fond of straw men.
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| 08-10-2011 01:30 AM |
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piePIEpie
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RE: Anti-Statism
Correction I thought anarchy was the stupidest thing ever until I heard of anarcho-capitalism.
Then you thought Anarchy was REALLY the stupidest idea ever?
XD
democratic-socialism ftw!
I believe god made us in his image.
I also believe god is a monkey.
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| 08-10-2011 01:33 AM |
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Kapkao
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RE: Anti-Statism
Gotta love Saft, though. Man that tart could banter...
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| 08-10-2011 01:35 AM |
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Kapkao
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RE: Anti-Statism
Correction I thought anarchy was the stupidest thing ever until I heard of anarcho-capitalism.
Then you thought Anarchy was REALLY the stupidest idea ever?
XD
democratic-socialism ftw!
"Boo" on both of you.
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| 08-10-2011 01:36 AM |
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