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(.../...) Well, there was one man who posted and said that he'd much rather get a call from his son's school principle telling him that his son beat somebody up than get a call from the principle telling him that his son got beaten up. Now what message does this send to a youngster?
My son has been bullied at school since the beginning of the year and only starts now to talk about it. For the moment, I am not really able to tell whether he is NT or not (but I have a strong suspicion he may have ADHD) but obviously he stands out of the crowd enough to be targeted.
Teachers don't react at all. His teacher prefers to put rather strong emphasis on the fact that he will only work when interested in the matter which is taught.
The message such attitudes send out is the one of pure Darwinian orthodoxy: care only for oneself, be ruthless and brutal when one feels like it. It also tells the world that adults have renounced to educate children "properly".
So much for AS, ADHD et al. being abnormal. In reference to what?
In my old high school you could bash and bully other students all you liked, but lay one finger on one of the teachers and you were gone.
There is only one fair and logical explination for this; the teachers must be a higher form of life! So all that *** they say about having the right to go to a safe learning environment must only really apply to them!
He he he, I knew there must have been a good explination for this
This post was last modified: 03-03-2011 02:27 PM by Trailer.
I'd want to know more about the situation before deciding. If he was starting fights himself, then no good. But if the other kid him hit first, and he was prepared to defend himself against that, then I think he should finish the job, and if that gets called "beating someone up" then so be it.
One teacher told me once to "always walk away" . Ideally you will be able to diffuse a situation verbally and then walk away after things are calmer. But if not, (*and the other person lays hands against you first*), and you do decide to respond in the same way, then make sure they are down enough so you can still "walk away" (ie: not need to run) in that situation as well, with the idea being that then the other guy will be far less likely to bother you again, now that you've proved you can handle yourself against him (or her, of course).
It's not my vision of an ideal world, certainly, but I can nonetheless understand the need for this approach, and why it would be effective. "Talking" and "using words" and "resolving conflict" and "working things out" and "being respectful" only work with other people who share that value system. If, on the other hand, they only understand power and physical skill, then you'll need to meet them in their own language, perhaps. And who knows, then maybe after that first time, they'll be more willing to try your approach next time! (we can hope, yes?)
I hope bullying will not "always" be around. I really do.
but I've heard lots of other people say the same thing.
But why must it be?
eh......
i must be tired today, to be getting so philosophical
I'm sorry to say this, but there is always going to be bullying in the world. Someday your child may encounter a more serious situation when they are older. There are nutcases who randomly stab people people in the street, and gangs who beat people to death for laughes (wether they intend it or not I don't know).
How are you going to prepare your kids for these types of situations? Just a thought, I don't mean to be rude or anything.
Yes, and bullying can manifest at different ages and in different ways during our lives.
Workplace bullying can be very different and every bit as stressful as playground bullying. Its something that overlooked sadly, as people tend to associate bullying purely with schools.
Its a very good reason for homeschooling. Our tactic was different, use a school with a very proactive and no compromise approach. But this was a very expensive private school. However our son just graduated with an academic award in, unsurprisingly, IT. And is off to uni next year, unsurprisingly, for a degree in IT (programming).
All we ask as aspies is a fair go, free of bullying and we can be every bit as good or even excel in some areas that would drive a NT nuts.
Shame it's too much to ask for then.
As I may have said before, the reason why we are bullied is because we are such "easy targets" due to not being "protected" by a horde of friends.
It's always confused me, why do they say "high school days are the best of your life" when probably around 80% of people can actually say "em, no they're not. They're probably the worst"
Or at least I hope, no I beg so. If things are worse for me after high school, then well my entire life is going to be a living hell.
I can remember my mum telling me when i was a teen that one day i would look back and realise that my school days had the been the happiest of my life, i felt i may as well top myself on the spot if that were the case.
now college, that was a different matter. i went to one miles away where no-one from my school went. it was a fantastic fresh start and i loved every day of it.
When I am an old woman, I shall wear purple with a red hat that doesn't go, and doesn't suit me.And I shall spend my pension on brandy and summer gloves and satin candles, and say we've no money for butter.I shall sit down on the pavement when I am tired and gobble up samples in shops and press alarm bells and run my stick along the public railings and make up for the sobriety of my youth.I shall go out in my slippers in the rain and pick the flowers in other people's gardens. And learn to spit...
Its a very good reason for homeschooling. Our tactic was different, use a school with a very proactive and no compromise approach. But this was a very expensive private school. However our son just graduated with an academic award in, unsurprisingly, IT. And is off to uni next year, unsurprisingly, for a degree in IT (programming).
All we ask as aspies is a fair go, free of bullying and we can be every bit as good or even excel in some areas that would drive a NT nuts.
Shame it's too much to ask for then.
As I may have said before, the reason why we are bullied is because we are such "easy targets" due to not being "protected" by a horde of friends.
It's always confused me, why do they say "high school days are the best of your life" when probably around 80% of people can actually say "em, no they're not. They're probably the worst"
Or at least I hope, no I beg so. If things are worse for me after high school, then well my entire life is going to be a living hell.
I hear they got a buffet. I would think air conditioning would be higher priority, but maybe Dante was wrong.
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One of the big problems is that good parents will teach their kids on how to be good and decent to others and to the extent that when bullies strike who are completely little bastards without much regard to those conventions, they confuse and upset our kids without our kids having a back up "You have to be like this in all situations.....except when you have to deal with an arsehole, and then do the opposite."
Marcia Wrote:
In your case, less "tetchy", perhaps, and more "overbearing, obnoxious arsehole", if it's all the same with you, Bloke. Is it ok? Oh, good!
142857 Wrote:
I even briefly considered making some of Ragey's childish insults into my sig, but I figure that only one of us needs to do that.
Childish? Like......this?
142857 Wrote:
Get a life Bloke. Seriously.
Hilariously ironic
This post was last modified: 05-25-2012 01:35 PM by Bloke.
*I don't come on here often (I will more though) but: what happened to Momma?
Anyways, I had @Least one bully every year through grade school - it made me grow up with low self-esteem... When I told my Mom - she said violence isn't the answer but I was simply a push-over & let the bullying continue.
I won't let this affect me any more - I won't give power to all these people that hurt me in my life.
Obviously, I'm trying 2 be & stay positive because: a good attitude & a better perception is awesome.