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Marcia
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Yay! Go, Teal!!!!
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| 09-25-2008 12:50 AM |
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Yay! Go, Teal!!!! 
I loved this part of the article"At the Grand Canyon National Park, the men had found a 60-year-old sign with a misplaced apostrophe and a missing comma. They duly whipped out Tipp-Ex and pen, and made the corrections. They then spotted that "immense" was spelled as "emense". They were shocked, but stayed their hands. Mr Deck later wrote: "I was reluctant to disfigure the sign any further.... Still, I shall be haunted by that perversity, "emense" in my train-whistle-blighted dreams."
Yeah, mistakes on signs and movie posters come back to me in my sleep as well. Ever read the book , "Eats, shoots and leaves"?
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| 09-25-2008 12:57 AM |
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Had a uni lecturer whose favourite rant was apostrophes especially on whether the word its is its or it's. One lost marks if used incorrectly. Like correct it is blue can use it's as a contraction. But its raining has to be its.
talk about annoying.
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| 09-25-2008 01:09 AM |
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But its raining has to be its.
Eh? The raining of it?
As the player's breath warms the fipple the tone clears.
It is time to consider how Domenico Scarlatti
condensed so much music into so few bars
with never a crabbed turn or congested cadence,
never a boast or a see-here; and stars and lakes
echo him and the copse drums out his measure,
snow peaks are lifted up in moonlight and twilight
and the sun rises on an acknowledged land.
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| 09-25-2008 01:14 AM |
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Marcia
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It's raining, surely! 
And today in Glasgow it wasn't!
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| 09-25-2008 01:15 AM |
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micgrace
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But its raining has to be its.
Eh? The raining of it?
About as confusing as the pedantic lecturer. Can't use it's behind rain, one must use its. To lose marks over that I considered ridiculous at the time and still do.
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| 09-25-2008 01:32 AM |
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When those Americans who misspell go to hell my mom will be teaching them grammar again and again and again..... to their chagrin
When I make websites I try to replace ' with ’ because it cut-and-pastes better into Word when I can check spelling and grammar. I even built a utility to strip out the titles out of ABBR, ACRONYM, and A tags in Web pages as well as strip out other metadata so you can spell and grammar check the invisible content too.
That is before you check the HTML and CSS validity and Watchfire Bobby 508 accessibility and after you check that all the links work.
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| 09-25-2008 01:32 AM |
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Yes Shrek one must be very careful in spelling when programming. my son has borrowed bits of code available on the internet and found out much to his annoyance spelling mistakes within rendering the code unusable till fixed. The school he is going to will be allowing him to attend university early for IT programming as he taught them a thing or two. And showed them some completed programms of his. Mainly emulators to run obsolete programs (each programm has its own sector) plus his unique compression software for flash drives (an invention!!) 2 gig to 250 gig ! Now working on a reformulation programm to allow transmittal of small bits of info and reformation of the full amount automatically at the other end. Uses a major variation of public / private key security protocols. Which is where the idea came from.
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| 09-25-2008 01:41 AM |
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Tipp-Ex kids fined for correcting America's missing apostrophes
They found 'emense' public mistakes, but making good two tiny errors cost them £1,640
By Megan Clay-Jones
Independent on Sunday, 24 August 2008
A bizarre campaign against grammatical incorrectness has landed two young Americans in deep trouble. The pair, Jeff Deck and Benjamin Herson, who have roamed across America using marker pens and Tipp-Ex to correct bad spelling and grammar on less-than-literate signs, went a little too far when they amended a historic, hand-painted noticeboard at Grand Canyon National Park. They were arrested, given probation, ordered to pay a $3,035 (£1,640) repair bill, and banned from all US national parks.
The two are the somewhat nit-picking brains behind the Typo Eradication Advancement League (Teal), a sort of provisional wing of the Plain English Campaign. In March, it launched an Outreach Mission to correct grocers' apostrophes and spelling faux pas – coast to coast. Armed with only Tipp-Ex, chalk, and permanent markers, Messrs Deck and Herson travelled nearly 12,000 miles in 73 days, and identified 423 instances of signage marred by mistakes in spelling, punctuation and grammar. They made 231 corrections.
In Texas a firm called Wings announced it was "Now acepting application". There was a sign for "Dillettante" chocolate; posters referring to "recepies"; "cake's" and "birthday candell's"; signs that had the word "priveleges"; and a lot of "your" rather than "you're". An eatery in New York offered "chicken parmasan" salad, and a grocery, traditionally the home of the misused apostrophe, which called itself a "grocerry". They found menu boards advertising "today special's" and "capacino". A sign that warned "pedestrians use walks not roads"; a T-shirt shop missing the dash between the "T" and the "shirt"; an Army-Navy store offering a "hellicopter" helmet and a bullet "bandoleer", and a "Sweedish" berry drink. Mr Deck identified the correct use of the apostrophe to be America's greatest grammatical blindspot.
A star of local spelling bees as a child, Mr Deck set up Teal after attending his five-year reunion at Dartmouth College. He said: "I was speaking with some of my classmates who were becoming doctors and lawyers, and other people who could have an impact on the world and I started to wonder how I might be able to do that... fixing typos was what I came up with... I've always been aware of typos wherever I go [and] I figured that it was a national problem".
Soon Mr Deck had founded Teal, complete with a website, blog and a typo correction kit. The tour began on 5 March from Mr Deck's town of Somerville, Massachusetts, and led the pair through more than 20 states correcting public signs and "other venues where innocent eyes may be befouled by the vile stains on the delicate fabric of our language," according to the Teal website, jeffdeck.com. Asked if it had all been worthwhile, he said: "Certainly! There are a lot more people out there now carrying Sharpies [a brand of marker pen] around with them."
And Mr Deck and chums are collecting a fan base. One Ruth M Newton, for instance, wrote to the Teal blog: "Bless your heart for reassuring me that I am not the only spelling and punctuation nut left in North America."
At the Grand Canyon National Park, the men had found a 60-year-old sign with a misplaced apostrophe and a missing comma. They duly whipped out Tipp-Ex and pen, and made the corrections. They then spotted that "immense" was spelled as "emense". They were shocked, but stayed their hands. Mr Deck later wrote: "I was reluctant to disfigure the sign any further.... Still, I shall be haunted by that perversity, "emense" in my train-whistle-blighted dreams."
Despite their self-control, arrest and swift retribution followed.
I think they'd find lots of spelling and grammatical errors if they came over to Australia. They remind me a little bit of a group called Buga-Up who were active here years ago when it was still legal to advertise cigarettes on billboards. They changed the wording to say that smoking was very bad and killed people and made them sick. I think there were a number of court cases and I haven't heard of them for a long time.
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| 09-25-2008 05:42 PM |
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Shrek
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You know, maybe all these grammatical and spelling mistakes could be confusing to foreigners who don't know our language well. Maybe the Teal people are simply doing acts of reasonable accommodation.
Spanish and English, for example, both have contractions (English has can't equal to cannot, Spanish has al equal to a el (to the) or del equal to de el (from the)). If you didn't know al and del were legitimate prepositions in Spanish, maybe a non-English speaker would have trouble with can't, don't, shouldn't, won't, etc.
When I was inserting ABBR (abbreviation) tags into documents (when I had extra time to worry), I wrapped abbreviation tags around contractions in English (and even around numerals as well, just in case screen readers could not navigate numerals). How do you know a given screen reader can handle numerals or contractions? YOU DON'T!
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| 09-25-2008 08:40 PM |
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Especially if you are relying on a computer to translate for you like Clark Griswold was in European Vacation
and the French waiter is taking advantage of him commenting on his wife's anatomy and his daughter's anatomy.... and finally telling him off with an F word
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| 09-25-2008 08:43 PM |
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Egad, if my parents and brother and I had been symbolic of a country (maybe symbolic of a country in western or central Europe, as I discussed with rendezvous about Dad's/European secular concept of religion, perhaps both strongly changed by the Holocaust), it would have been an educated country with a better command of English (thanks Mom, the might have been high school English teacher, and Dad, the Federal govt writer editor).
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| 09-25-2008 08:51 PM |
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It certainly makes me very annoyed when people who should know better write things such as "the dog wagged it's tail". It is (it's) an incorrect use of the apostrophe which is to denote a contraction. Its isn't a contraction but it's is so what they are effectively saying is "the dog wagged it is tail", which is wrong wrong wrong.
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| 09-27-2008 08:37 AM |
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OK its bad enough, well not really unless one is writing an academic research paper that people really can't tell the difference between its and it's. Glaring spelling mistakes on public billboards are not acceptable especially since someone actually had to pay for that mistake. And that its. Or is it it's?
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| 09-27-2008 01:13 PM |
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I can pick up mistakes such as the one I said really easily and it annoys the heck out of me. Somebody who's writing an academic research paper certainly ought to have learnt to spell and punctuate properly.
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| 09-27-2008 01:46 PM |
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