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RE: Ari Ne'eman's nomination to NCD on hold (posted obo adriant.esq)

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Certainly there are a lot of controversial therapies out there,


Erm, the overall treatment of "classically autistic" children is abusive and demeaning. This is the rule, not the exception, and saying anything less than this is a huge disservice to those children. This is not somewhere that you can cut corners or play things down. Saying that there are "Oh yes there are certainly some controversial therapies" does not cut it in any situation.


I am not disagreeing with you. Just to be clear to everyone, I do not in any way condone or agree with behavior modification techniques and other such horrors. The point of my original post was more about general treatments for the individual, not treatments aimed at autism.


Okay, but you said...

"any therapeutic methods which are used to help autistic children with activities of daily living and coping skills."

And the people who advocate these "treatments" claim they do exactly that. If you really are opposed to this, you need to make it absolutely clear that you're opposed to it at all times, because these kinds of things are highly entrenched, and the people who are claiming that we're trying to stop treatment more often than not DO have these things in mind. Saying "I oppose a lot of the false treatments for autistic people that are in place now, but I recognize that some kind of treatment is usually necessary" communicates a very different message. This is not nitpicking either, because these kinds of ideas translate directly into the lives of other people.

I can absolutely accept that what you've just said is what you actually mean, but it's important  not to try to tone this down just to try to stop people from misrepresenting you or people with similar viewpoints. Protip: People are going to try to misrepresent you anyway.

Ruby2010 Wrote:
Are you even sure that the nominee in question disagrees with you, or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing and attaching even more controversy to the nominee needlessly?


I was responding to ericj1985, who posted in this topic, and who I quoted. I don't consider trying to defend young children from abuse "arguing for the sake of arguing" either, and putting out statements like "I highly doubt that... (higher functioning autistics) opposes any therapeutic methods..." is going to, at the very least, ENABLE those kinds of things.

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