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Up here, a little girl wasn't allowed to wear a pig costume in the kindy nativity play (because there weren't pigs in the stable, supposedly). The kid was so upset and some kind of compromise was reached whereby she still wore the pig costume but they replaced the ears and tail with cow parts. The authorities weren't going to budge even when the child's granny went up to the school to give them a flea in the ear.


Yet they allow into nativity plays spiders and other odd asortments that don't have anything to do with a stable scene or christmas....Atleast the girl who you mentioned Tenaciouscj was on topic with a pig.  Like I mentioned in my previous post, I do not understand what the problem is with the girl wanting to wear her cow jumper nor the little girl wanting to wear a pig costume.  I just don't  understand the school's apparent reason(s).

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Wow, a little aspie is taken to a restraining center because she acted very bad in school.  What she only kicked and spat at teachers... WAIT SHE IS AUTISTIC!!!  Yeah but so am I.  THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THIS EXTREME!! Well... I will admit that putting handcuffs on this girl might have been a little extreme but I have to ask if this is the first time she has had a episode at this school.  My guess is not... hell I've heard of a kid who threw a trashcan at another kid out of his anger, and this kid has terrates (Did I spell it right?).  I've also heard of a kid that gets lots of seizures key somebodies car because he didn't get accepted into a club.  They both have disabilities but is that an excuse for their behavior? That's up to you the reader to decide...  My last note will be how good is this parent at being a parent to her daughter?

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Wow, a little aspie is taken to a restraining center because she acted very bad in school.  What she only kicked and spat at teachers... WAIT SHE IS AUTISTIC!!!  Yeah but so am I.  THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THIS EXTREME!! Well... I will admit that putting handcuffs on this girl might have been a little extreme but I have to ask if this is the first time she has had a episode at this school.  My guess is not... hell I've heard of a kid who threw a trashcan at another kid out of his anger, and this kid has terrates (Did I spell it right?).  I've also heard of a kid that gets lots of seizures key somebodies car because he didn't get accepted into a club.  They both have disabilities but is that an excuse for their behavior? That's up to you the reader to decide...  My last note will be how good is this parent at being a parent to her daughter?


To tell you the truth, I disagree with your last note about the mother's parenting.  I don't think her parenting has anything to do with what happened.  Although I'm not excusing the child for her reactional behaviour, I feel as though it was the school's responsibility to calm the situation down themselves and should have and should be liable and held responsible for their particular actions and response in punishing this young child the way they did.  

The school should have been professional and rang up the mother instead of calling the police.  Especially over a cow jumper.  I would expect the school to ring up the police if there was a (actually) dangerous student on the loose who was actually causing harm, but Evelyn only wanted to wear her favourite jumper to a party.

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They told her she had to tuck in the tail and put the ears down. They never said she couldn't wear it but it was a stupid thing to tell her to do.

Also the little girl, she did have a choice, follow the stupid order or don't go to the party.
I learned as a kid to make choices, sacrifice or follow orders. If that were me at nine years old, I would have followed the stupid order if I were told "Beth if you don't do X, you can't attend the Christmas Party" and what would I choose? The party so I would follow the stupid order. So I would say the girl had it coming.

The school was stupid for calling the police.


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I think this still would have happened to her if she wasn't autistic. It has happened to none autistic kids before except it wasn't over a clothing.


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01-19-2009 01:29 AM
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creature Wrote:
Wow, a little aspie is taken to a restraining center because she acted very bad in school.  What she only kicked and spat at teachers... WAIT SHE IS AUTISTIC!!!  Yeah but so am I.  THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THIS EXTREME!! Well... I will admit that putting handcuffs on this girl might have been a little extreme but I have to ask if this is the first time she has had a episode at this school.  My guess is not... hell I've heard of a kid who threw a trashcan at another kid out of his anger, and this kid has terrates (Did I spell it right?). 

I've also heard of a kid that gets lots of seizures key somebodies car because he didn't get accepted into a club.  They both have disabilities but is that an excuse for their behavior? That's up to you the reader to decide...  My last note will be how good is this parent at being a parent to her daughter?


To tell you the truth, I disagree with your last note about the mother's parenting.  I don't think her parenting has anything to do with what happened.  Although I'm not excusing the child for her reactional behaviour, I feel as though it was the school's responsibility to calm the situation down themselves and should have and should be liable and held responsible for their particular actions and response in punishing this young child the way they did.  

The school should have been professional and rang up the mother instead of calling the police.  Especially over a cow jumper.  I would expect the school to ring up the police if there was a (actually) dangerous student on the loose who was actually causing harm, but Evelyn only wanted to wear her favourite jumper to a party.

I got in trouble on another forum because I said it was possible a parent was letting their child do something unhealthy and not teaching her it wasn't a good thing to do.

But this is totally different. This child should have been allowed to wear her cow jumper to the party. It wasn't harming anybody. It almost seems as if the teachers wanted to provoke her into a meltdown.

They should have spoken to her mother first if they had any problem with the jumper. The only issue I can think of is they might have thought other kids would pull at the ears and tail and upset her but they handled the situation so badly. This doesn't seem to be a little girl who acts out a lot and it was total overkill to have her carted off by the police.


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I've seen it a lot in teaching and care staff, at a boarding school I went to, specialising in AS, you get some very good teachers and care staff who do good jobs, but now and again you get some real little-hitlerian types who seem to have a pathological need to be right 100% of the time, or exert control over the stupidest of small details of everything they do.

A kid at my old school got his arm broken by one of the carestaff, not entirely deliberately, but by the guy going into a fit of rage and ramming a door off its hinges when the kid was stood right behind it.

He wasn't fit for his job. One of my brothers went to a boarding school and a staffer who usually got on well with him beat him up when he thought he was being cheeky.

My brother was in hospital for several days but it was all hushed up until years later by which time it was too late to sue. Incredibly, my brother has forgiven this man and because he seemed on friendly terms with him, I never would have guessed about this serious assault.

I got into trouble with a teacher in 2nd grade because she wanted to throw out some flowers because she said they were dead. I said they weren't and couldn't she just take off a couple of petals that were going brown. I offered to take them home and get some new ones from mum's garden but she said she was throwing them in the rubbish and that was it and if I didn't stop crying I would get a hiding with the cane. Well, I was scared of getting the cane so I shut up.


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Oh yes, I remember the old corporal punishment routine well.  The teacher would step out for a moment, then come back in and say "who was talking?"  I'd put my hand up and wonder why nobody else did, as I certainly wasn't the only one.  Then I'd get what they used to call "cuts" with the ruler on my hand.  School taught me to lie, a skill I hadn't previously acquired.
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No one likes getting into trouble so that's why people don't admit. You probably would have pissed off your classmates if you said who else talked.


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These people should never be around children. The school should be shut down, only an idiot, or a sadist would beat up a child for not wearing the right clothing.

This poor girl will think something is wrong with her, when clearly these morons were just looking for an excuse to beat up on a child. Seems all they have to say is, "Well he/she's a retard, they'll believe us when we say they did something wrong."

I guess the schools are surprised now, that parents aren't allowing them to use their Autism Spectrum children as their personal punching bags anymore. People are informed, and they know that it's wrong to assault, or inflict terror into any child. Let alone a child with a condition that makes them more likely to have anxiety issues.

I hope they find another school for their child, or homeschool her. I wouldn't be surprised, if that girl was terrified to return to any school, after this blatant form of abuse.


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Autistic child taken from school in handcuffs

COEUR D'ALENE -- A Ponderay mom was left outraged when school officials ordered her autistic 8-year-old daughter handcuffed and taken from the school in a police car.

Outside her Ponderay home, 8-year-old Evelyn Towry, in her pink boots and favorite sweatshirt explains why she's now suspended from school.

"Because I was trying to leave and they hold me down," Evelyn said.

Evelyn is a third grader at Kootenai Elementary and has Asperger's Syndrome, a high functioning form of Autism. On Friday she started to act out.

"She wanted to attend a Christmas party in her cow sweatshirt and they told her she couldn't that she would have to tuck the tail in and put ears down and she dug her heels in the way she does quite often and said she wouldn't take it off," Evelyn's mom Spring said.

Spring says that when Evelyn tried to leave anyway two teachers restrained her, which is when Evelyn began kicking, pinching and spitting on the teachers.

"Well, I kicked because I was upset they were holding me down and I got thumb bruises on me," Evelyn said.

School officials then called the police and Evelyn's mom. When Spring got to school to pick her daughter up police were already escorting Evelyn in handcuffs out of the building and into a police cruiser. Police then took her to a local juvenile detention center where she stayed for an hour, after which she was allowed to go home.

"I was terrified and I was scared and I was hurt and I wanted to throw up. I wanted to take my baby with me," Spring said.

School officials responded to a request for an interview for this story by e-mail, with the district superintendent saying they followed a specific safety plan for Evelyn which was agreed upon by the district and her mental health provider.

The plan, according to the district, says that "If a student assaults staff it is appropriate to call parents, involved support agencies, and local law enforcement officials if needed. All of the above occurred regarding this unfortunate incident."

"I never saw the plan, I never signed the plan," Spring said.

On Tuesday morning the Bonner County prosecutor charged Evelyn with one count of battery.

By Tuesday afternoon the charge was dropped.

"I think it's absolutely ridiculous. She doesn't even know what battery is," Spring said.

Spring Towry and her husband are now pursuing civil action. While they don't excuse their daughter's behavior Spring says it didn't have to go this far.

"I don't want this to happen to another child or another parent," she said.


So incredibly outrageous and pathetic!

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Obviously the bank robbers, rapists, murderers and other scum of the earth either are not keeping the police busy enough, or are too hard to catch, that the police are using so much force on a child.  
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She was a soft target - that's what's so sad about this whole incident.

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She was a soft target - that's what's so sad about this whole incident.


What's next? Putting babies in handcuffs for crying?


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These people should never be around children. The school should be shut down, only an idiot, or a sadist would beat up a child for not wearing the right clothing.

This poor girl will think something is wrong with her, when clearly these morons were just looking for an excuse to beat up on a child. Seems all they have to say is, "Well he/she's a ***, they'll believe us when we say they did something wrong."

I guess the schools are surprised now, that parents aren't allowing them to use their Autism Spectrum children as their personal punching bags anymore. People are informed, and they know that it's wrong to assault, or inflict terror into any child. Let alone a child with a condition that makes them more likely to have anxiety issues.

I hope they find another school for their child, or homeschool her. I wouldn't be surprised, if that girl was terrified to return to any school, after this blatant form of abuse.


Yes, I agree with you.  

I too wouldn't be suprised if the girl refuses to go back to that school.

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