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Little wonder the world is so screwd up
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| 01-17-2009 09:17 PM |
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Yes, it is all down to closed minded people who polute children to be as closed minded like they. Unlike us, where we are open minded....
...but then again, they treat us like criminals just for wanting to wear a cow jumper....
I still don't understand why they acted that way, if you do MissNZ could you please explain to me? I don't see why they reacted the way to her wanting to wear a cow jumper. Are cow jumpers offensive now? If so, I'd better get rid of mine...
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| 01-17-2009 09:21 PM |
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I expect that any lawsuit will fail. The District sounds like they already had a documented plan, and I suspect that will be enough to win the case.
It was extremely foolish of the "teachers" to forcably restrain a person when that is the last thing that would have de-escalated the situation.
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| 01-17-2009 09:30 PM |
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Sociologically, I don't know how it is in Idaho.
According to how old the child was, it probably would have been deemed offensive. As we all know, deviating from the normal is considered a dangerous threat to common life. People are afraid of change.
I've been through something similar, where I wore the wrong makeup, I had on too much blush, and got in trouble for it. My school made a BIG deal out of it, and it almost caused me to be sent to disciplinary action had they not realised that I was AS.
I personally misunderstand why people take offense to difference, probably never will understand it, but I want to do everything I can to educate and change this world.
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| 01-17-2009 09:35 PM |
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The sad thing is, is that if the lawsuit does fail. This will happen again.
Yes, it is all down to closed minded people who polute children to be as closed minded like they. Unlike us, where we are open minded....
...but then again, they treat us like criminals just for wanting to wear a cow jumper....
I still don't understand why they acted that way, if you do MissNZ could you please explain to me? I don't see why they reacted the way to her wanting to wear a cow jumper. Are cow jumpers offensive now? If so, I'd better get rid of mine...
Oh, I really was not joking about the cow jumpers/T-shirts really. I have two (a flying cow and a normal cow).
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| 01-17-2009 09:36 PM |
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Holy cow, that was excessive action. I think that the school made the wrong moove.
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| 01-17-2009 11:42 PM |
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The most apalling part to me is the action of the police which was extremely excessive. Fancy handcuffing an 8 year old.
She apparently was free to wear whatever but they took it upon themselves to single her out. Then the school officials who restrained her when she was leaving anyway.
If that happened to an adult, the charge would be false imprisonment or worse. But its OK to do it to children?
OZ schools are no better. I seen one child get his arm broken by a teacher here in OZ when I was in primary school to teach the child "a lesson". The poor child committed suicide a few years later.
Problem is positions of authority attract the psychopaths and they are very charming creatures who force out the better people. I had to teach under one, but not for long.
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| 01-18-2009 01:35 AM |
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The most apalling part to me is the action of the police which was extremely excessive. Fancy handcuffing an 8 year old.
She apparently was free to wear whatever but they took it upon themselves to single her out. Then the school officials who restrained her when she was leaving anyway.
If that happened to an adult, the charge would be false imprisonment or worse. But its OK to do it to children?
OZ schools are no better. I seen one child get his arm broken by a teacher here in OZ when I was in primary school to teach the child "a lesson". The poor child committed suicide a few years later.
Problem is positions of authority attract the psychopaths and they are very charming creatures who force out the better people. I had to teach under one, but not for long.
A teacher breaking a student's arm to teach them a lesson? how disturbing!!!
I agree wth you about the psychopaths getting into positions of authority. I definitely worry about myself having to work under one in the near future!! :o
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| 01-18-2009 01:44 AM |
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The most apalling part to me is the action of the police which was extremely excessive. Fancy handcuffing an 8 year old.
There seems to be more and more stories coming out of the US about police being called in to put little girls in handcuffs and cart them off to detention. You rarely hear about the boys having the same thing done: can't the police manage boys, but can safely put girls in chains? It reminds me of the old story about the man who's stopped by a policeman and given a ticket. "But I wasn't speeding, officer". "No, but you were the only one I could catch."
It also seems that overreaction is rife: so the kid wanted to wear her suit, so what? Who did it hurt? The teachers need to learn the first thing about children - when to make a fuss, and when not to. If I spent all my time focusing on the small stuff at work, I'd never get anything constructive done.
That's a disturbing story, but seems to be a sign of the times.
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| 01-18-2009 01:53 AM |
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At the time, my parents and others refused to believe a teacher actually did such a thing as break a childs arm. But she (an a religious nun at that) did other things as well. Didn't open your mouth wide enough? A pure psychopath who could charm the parents. I believe she was eventually committed to an institution.
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| 01-18-2009 01:54 AM |
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| 01-18-2009 01:58 AM |
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The incident was nothing compared to being suspended at a Maths Contest just for arguing with a teacher. This doesn't happen with NTs. It makes me mad, the discrimination.
But, as said on the homepage:
Many problems associated with autism are caused, or worsened, by prejudice. The root of this is prejudice itself - if we deal with only the forms of prejudice that currently relate to autism, another form of prejudice will rise up to replace them.
Because of this, Aspies For Freedom chooses to oppose all forms of prejudice and bigotry.
It includes forms of bigotry related to autistic culture, such as:
*The idea that being neurotypical (i.e. not autistic, or another psychological neurotype) is "better" than being autistic. (Note: this doesn't relate to talking about specific abilities, just to the idea of general "betterness")
*The idea that being autistic is "better" than being neurotypical. (Note: again, this doesn't relate to talking about specific abilities, just to the idea of general "betterness")
*The idea that some labels on the autistic spectrum are acceptable, but others are tragedies.
*The idea that Asperger's Syndrome or PDD-NOS shouldn't be part of the autistic spectrum.
*The idea that people have no right to self-identify as autistic
If we just change their ideas, then there will be only a few cases of discrimination.
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| 01-18-2009 08:24 AM |
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The "neurotypicals are better than aspies" situation is getting out of hand. If we could just
change their ideas about autism...

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| 01-18-2009 08:32 AM |
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Up here, a little girl wasn't allowed to wear a pig costume in the kindy nativity play (because there weren't pigs in the stable, supposedly). The kid was so upset and some kind of compromise was reached whereby she still wore the pig costume but they replaced the ears and tail with cow parts. The authorities weren't going to budge even when the child's granny went up to the school to give them a flea in the ear.
It's easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission.
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| 01-18-2009 03:33 PM |
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I've seen it a lot in teaching and care staff, at a boarding school I went to, specialising in AS, you get some very good teachers and care staff who do good jobs, but now and again you get some real little-hitlerian types who seem to have a pathological need to be right 100% of the time, or exert control over the stupidest of small details of everything they do.
A kid at my old school got his arm broken by one of the carestaff, not entirely deliberately, but by the guy going into a fit of rage and ramming a door off its hinges when the kid was stood right behind it.
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| 01-18-2009 04:08 PM |
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