The copycats are coming, the copycats are coming!

Without reading that fully yet, I have to say i'm pleased to hear about the "aspergers defence" failing.

Just read it- really glad to see this idiot get sentenced, I hope mckinnon does too - though that won't remove his martyr status sadly.

My name is John & I'm a new member

I am from UK and have a good working knowledge of parliamentary procedure etc & take a keen interest in the McKinnon case.  I also have quite a good knowledge of some of the other issues surrounding this and - sadly - the Fair Trial Issue is one of them.

The UK - US Extradition Treaty being used does have a serious imbalance:-The US only have to provide basic information for extradition of UK subjects (we're NOT citizens) whereas the UK have to show Probable Cause for the extradition of US citizens.

Using an approximate arithmetical comparison, it means the US only has to provide about 1/3 the proof to extradite a UK subject to their jurisdiction

This is only one of many legislative imbalances that Britain has

So US only has to supply about 1/3 of the proof that McKinnon is a tw@ for us to send him to them - thank god for that - they are welcome to him

I beleive that we should only have to provide the same level of proof to extradite people from US to here

I think the new government have been making noises about changing the current extradition treaty.  Hopefully, they will take action and soon.

I think that instead of punishing one of us to demonstrate they know we're competent, to maybe reassure the rest of us that they know not all Aspies are not incompetent.


And if Gary is competent to know it's illegal and hurts them and why, which I think he is, punishing him might actually give him better self-esteem because it's treating him like he is competent. However, it's also treating him like he is incompetent-- people who are competent enough to know just don't do things Gary did, and so laws and punishments are meant for incompetent people, to protect society from them.


Also, maybe in prison Gary will get mental healthg help.

But then, one might say Gary revealed something about UFOs... a good thing. Why does the govvie hide things from us? The gov clearly thinks they are superior to the public. Maybe Gary just wanted to even social statuses out a little. I also see UFOs in the news a lot lately (like 3 times this week). Is Gary being proven right? At least the press seem to be honest abut the US hiding things from us!

This post was last modified: 10-11-2010 04:25 PM by Ana54.

Extradition to America should be outlawed.

I always find conspiracy theories, where the various governments are believed to be "hiding" things from us, to be touching in the amount of trust it's citizenry has in government intelligence: after working within various government departments for most of my adult life, I don't have such a high opinion of governments, sadly.  I tend to believe that the majority of governments world-wide are full of people who can't find their @ss with both hands and a torch gripped between their teeth.  But as I say, it's nice that so many people think they ARE smart enough to hide things from us.  
Alison

NICE? That they not only have their own self-esteem but ours too?

This is news to me. What did he reveal?

That the organizations he hacked into needed better security.
Alison