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robinhood
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RE: Statement on Gary McKinnon
What is the recommended colour of the rubber hand bands for aspies some people wear?
I'd not heard of that before, but would be interested to find out if anyone knows...
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| 01-23-2010 12:21 PM |
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RE: Statement on Gary McKinnon
Aspergia was promoting orange wristbands, but in some cases they have other meanings which may not be appropriate.


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| 01-23-2010 02:44 PM |
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Alison
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I hate the feel of anything around my wrists, particularly anythink dangly. It's all I can do to keep a wristwatch on during the day, and when I'm at home I don't bother.
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RE: Statement on Gary McKinnon
Suggestions for a wristband colour? Anyone?
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| 01-24-2010 02:15 AM |
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robinhood
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Dark blue, but that's just because I like it! I'm not sure, there's so many taken already.
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| 01-24-2010 02:39 AM |
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RE: Statement on Gary McKinnon
I found this on the medical alert braclet site. If the link comes up correctly it should show the Autism dog tag. I imagine if you would rather have a braclet you can have it engraved with Autism also.
http://www.medids.com/order/Autism_Dog_Tag.html
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| 01-24-2010 03:35 AM |
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RE: Statement on Gary McKinnon
I found this on the medical alert braclet site. If the link comes up correctly it should show the Autism dog tag. I imagine if you would rather have a braclet you can have it engraved with Autism also.
http://www.medids.com/order/Autism_Dog_Tag.html
That kinda makes one wonder - isn't the point of a medalert bracelet to inform paramedics etc of anything they need to know in case you're actually unconcious? Stuff like allergies, diabetes, or in my case (well, not yet - keep meaning to get one) "in case of death cool head with ice, inject heparin, maintain CPR and call this number".
Why would "this person is autistic" be relevant to medical treatment if you're unconcious?


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| 01-24-2010 11:35 AM |
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RE: Statement on Gary McKinnon
I found this on the medical alert braclet site. If the link comes up correctly it should show the Autism dog tag. I imagine if you would rather have a braclet you can have it engraved with Autism also.
http://www.medids.com/order/Autism_Dog_Tag.html
That kinda makes one wonder - isn't the point of a medalert bracelet to inform paramedics etc of anything they need to know in case you're actually unconcious? Stuff like allergies, diabetes, or in my case (well, not yet - keep meaning to get one) "in case of death cool head with ice, inject heparin, maintain CPR and call this number".
Why would "this person is autistic" be relevant to medical treatment if you're unconcious?
I would be using it for informing law enforcement my self. There wouldnt be enough room on there for all the info you would want on there.
The dog tag would come in handy for a child I believe as would a braclet if they were lost,etc.
By the by , good luck with that after death thing,hope it works for you. Myself....I'm out of here.
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| 01-24-2010 03:56 PM |
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RE: Statement on Gary McKinnon
Another hacker (Albert Gonzalez) has tried to use Asperger's as a defence: link.
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RE: Statement on Gary McKinnon
I heard about that at WP.
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| 04-07-2010 05:33 PM |
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i'd like to see juries composed only of aspies where defendants try to rely on aspergers as an excuse for their wrongdoings
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| 04-07-2010 05:44 PM |
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i'd like to see juries composed only of aspies where defendants try to rely on aspergers as an excuse for their wrongdoings
Er, isn't the assumption: Innocent until proven guilty?
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| 04-07-2010 11:28 PM |
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Alison - he has admitted he did it - of course he's guilty - and he is playing the asperger card for one reason alone - to claim it makes him mentally NOT responsible for his actions
The consequences of such a claim being upheld by the American legal system would be a devastating precedent - it would imply aspies are not legally competent - to enter into agreements, marriages, tenancies, car hire, bring up kids - I hope they lock him up and throw away the key
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| 04-08-2010 01:55 AM |
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It's so easy to assume when one aspie commits a crime, it's their condition's fault and they were all innocent when they did it. It's also easy to assume they couldn't help it or understand what they were doing was wrong.
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| 04-08-2010 03:49 AM |
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Alison
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RE: Statement on Gary McKinnon
adriant.esq Wrote:
i'd like to see juries composed only of aspies where defendants try to rely on aspergers as an excuse for their wrongdoings
Er, isn't the assumption: Innocent until proven guilty?
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[quote=adriant.esq]
Alison - he has admitted he did it - of course he's guilty - and he is playing the asperger card for one reason alone - to claim it makes him mentally NOT responsible for his actions
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Yes, but you were talking about juries (plural) where other defendants (not just this particular one) try to rely etc. as in the quote above. That's what I was having trouble with, not this particular case. The assumption of innocent until proven guilty, the Golden Thread that runs through Justice, and all that.
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