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If people can't get over themselves enough to do the right thing when it really matters, then all of us are screwed.


TheZach - you had no reason at all to take your site down




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I prefure not to get involved in arguments however.

By responding to an insult it will only cause the other to defend their actions, causing you to feel more insulted which creates an endless cycle.
The most effective way to win an argument is to be the better person by not responding because then the person throwing the insults gets bored and starts acting civil. Even if what you say is really important and you think it will shut the other up, it is human nature for someone to defend themselves, so it won't silence them.

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The website is now offline, you can all thank Rosco for his ongoing harrasment.


You might feel very pleased with yourself for this attack, however it severely weakens our case against Autism Speaks. Not everyone in the world will have read this thread and know it is "Rosco's fault", everyone else will just see it as proof that Autism Speaks was right to threaten legal action or think you are a silly child making everything up to get attention.

I assume you don't want this and was just unaware of the consequences of this decision.

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Worse, there'll now be confusion: was it because of autism speaks or rossco?




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Interesting read, it's nice to see another person is as interested in human behaviour as myself.

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Okay I've read through this thread and I basically think (regarding the social situation here):

If you (this goes for anyone involved) want to actually manage to be constructive, now is not the time to sit around forming personal grudges about each other's manners.

If you don't like the way someone said something, just drop it and keep doing the actual work.  If you don't like the way someone responds to the work you're doing to assist them, just realize that people dealing with the sort of crap going on right now are under a lot of stress.

If you're going to do the right thing here, don't expect to be appreciated (or not to be appreciated), just do it.  If you really don't care what people think, then if someone responds in what you view as a snippy or insulting or immature way back at you, just don't respond.   Don't let it bother you.  And certainly don't drop what you're doing just because you got your feelings hurt.

There are things going on that are bigger than your personal grudges, bigger than your feelings, and bigger than whether you happen to like someone.  If you really want to work on them, then work on them regardless.  But don't do some kind of half-measure where you'll do the work only as long as other people respond to the work you're doing in the right way.  That stuff doesn't matter in the long run.  Autistic people being allowed to criticize autism organizations without being accused of copyright violations does matter.

So think of what matters and forget the rest.  This is the sort of thing where there's no place for pettiness, personal offence, and hurt feelings at people's wordings, if you really want to get the job done.  If people can't get over themselves enough to do the right thing when it really matters, then all of us are screwed.



This. A million times THIS.



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The website is now offline, you can all thank Rosco for his ongoing harrasment.


You might feel very pleased with yourself for this attack, however it severely weakens our case against Autism Speaks. Not everyone in the world will have read this thread and know it is "Rosco's fault", everyone else will just see it as proof that Autism Speaks was right to threaten legal action or think you are a silly child making everything up to get attention.

I assume you don't want this and was just unaware of the consequences of this decision.


Actually I'm not pleased but I'm not going to be bullied into complying with someones impolite, imature and childish tactics and have those tactics represent my hard work.


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Worse, there'll now be confusion: was it because of autism speaks or rossco?


it was rossco


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Gareth Wrote:
Worse, there'll now be confusion: was it because of autism speaks or rossco?


it was rossco


Why? What did he do? I'm not being facetious, I genuinely would like a repsonse to my previous post on this; I have no idea how to help, as requested, without being accused of interfering!


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Why? What did he do? I'm not being facetious, I genuinely would like a repsonse to my previous post on this; I have no idea how to help, as requested, without being accused of interfering!


He did some of this:

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Is there an email address I can address my concerns about this to?
I will be very polite and subtle....like hell!


A little of this

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I am not subtle. I am direct.
Lack of Politeness is not necessarily being obnoxious or immaturity.
WTF are you on about and mate where do you get off?


Some of this:

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Ivar shut up. I don't really care what you think.


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I do not like you or care what happens to you.


You get the point.

I want polite and mature responces writen - not whining, imature, harrasing and bullshit responces as they will get us nowhere but prove Autism Speaks points that we are just a bunch of mal-content idiots that whine and scream.

The website is back up, but I'm going to make a post about this rossco fool and others like them, by the end of the day I hope they have two anuses - cause they need to be torn a new one.


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You complain about Rossco being immature, yet you are behaving in exactly the same way. By responding to Rossco in the way you have, you are doing exactly what you say you don't want.

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Tigger_the_Wing Wrote:

TheZach Wrote:

Gareth Wrote:
Worse, there'll now be confusion: was it because of autism speaks or rossco?


it was rossco


Why? What did he do? I'm not being facetious, I genuinely would like a repsonse to my previous post on this; I have no idea how to help, as requested, without being accused of interfering!

I totally agree with this ^ !


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You complain about Rossco being immature, yet you are behaving in exactly the same way. By responding to Rossco in the way you have, you are doing exactly what you say you don't want.

AND this ^ !

I don't have the written language skills of the above posters, but would be prepared to help in my own clumsy way, if I knew what I was allowed to say without causing offense.

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My brain is mush today, but I totally agree with Moo.

Also if you take your website down and link to the profile of a poster on a politically based website, it makes us all look bad. It makes AFF look bad.

Its also very childish.

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