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I think that as 1%'er in society is is a no-brainer that we are outnumbered and going to have problems with integrating successfully.

There is always going to be issues and the best advice I would give any autistic teenager would be to "toughen up" and be prepared to try harder than the rest of your peers and be prepared to encounter much in the way of difficulties, greif and disappointment.

It is not easy and any on who tries to convince me life is a wonderful thing is not selling what I am buying.

However we can support each other and give our support where we can and a great example of this is http://www.auties.org/ . There is no one job or easy streamlining for people on the spectrum but being aware of our stregths and being tough enough in ourselves to step out of our comfort zones and struggle against disappointment hold the best chance for us to get by as individuals.


What about those of us who can't toughen up no matter how much we would like to?


Well, we can get by with a little help from out friends.
By supporting each other we can gain strength from our shared experiences.
We may not think we’re tough--but when aspies encounter set backs and struggle to do the things everyone else does easily…the struggle makes us tough. All of us are strong--we’ve had to be.

But this doesn’t mean that accommodation shouldn’t be made. If an employer wants to get the best out of an employee--tackling sensory issues--reducing social interaction--having a rota--allowing the use of email instead of phone--can all increase productivity…
They are only minor accommodations and may even help non-aspie employees function better as well.

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But this doesn’t mean that accommodation shouldn’t be made. If an employer wants to get the best out of an employee--tackling sensory issues--reducing social interaction--having a rota--allowing the use of email instead of phone--can all increase productivity…
They are only minor accommodations and may even help non-aspie employees function better as well.


My husband was helped INCREDIBLY by simply removing the flourescent light bulbs above his desk.  Years of being miserable solved by a quick action of removing bulbs.  (Exasperated sigh.)

06-04-2008 11:42 PM
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quickduck Wrote:
But this doesn’t mean that accommodation shouldn’t be made. If an employer wants to get the best out of an employee--tackling sensory issues--reducing social interaction--having a rota--allowing the use of email instead of phone--can all increase productivity…
They are only minor accommodations and may even help non-aspie employees function better as well.


My husband was helped INCREDIBLY by simply removing the flourescent light bulbs above his desk.  Years of being miserable solved by a quick action of removing bulbs.  (Exasperated sigh.)

Its amazing how much difference a change in lighting or a reduction in noise can make. I find that I get twice as much work done if I come into the office early or stay late. There's a noticable drop in background noise--and I can stay relaxed and focused for longer.

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I find working earlies or lates makes the drive to work (and parking on arrival) easier, so I arrive at work less stressed.

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If NAS really wanted to help adults with AS they would help us get non stress, social free jobs.

Some of us need to have quiet, low-lit, low interaction jobs but they tend to require skills, talent and/or education.

If we don't have a formal education or access to technology, we may find ourselves without the contacts to discover roles that we can realistically handle.

I have had very well paid jobs, but chose to return to study. Now, I need paid work and am considering setting up a school to employment transition programme. The trouble is that it will take a long time to go from setting up to a position that will pay me for at least some of my time.

In the meantime, I am reviewing job descriptions and skill levels for various jobs. Does anyone know of roles that would be suitable and achievable for different skills and interests?


I really don't think that there is a social-free job out there. Pracically every single job out there do require interaction with others. When I worked in the college cafeteria in various postions, I had to interact with others, even when I am stocking beverages and there is a request for a beverage or milk.


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I have noticed the aspies I know usually have their own business. This includes myself. However my wife does the social side and I shuffle paperwork looking after the details. I am also studying chem after an abortive attempt to gain a Teaching degree (needs social skills no matter how good the grey matter is). I do wish to chase that elusive PhD after time mainly to prove all my naysayers wrong.

Unfortunately all jobs require some sort of social interaction even if say, I was fixing a car (I am a mechanic by trade). I ran a mobile repair business a while ago in spite of handicaps with phone use and rather poor social skills. That didn't matter. I did written quotes after examination of said vehicle and let my advertising do the talking (learn this skill it more than compensates). And I would employ someone with top grade social skills to present a human face. My wife handled this role and booked my appointments.

With this business charging by the hour and myself doing little talking and getting the job done was very much appreciated by the customers. The side benefit I did little social engagement (and appeared "normal"), undercut other "gasbag" competitors and was able to complete more jobs in a day. So it wasn't a problem. Don't let being an aspies allow someone to pigeonhole you, there are many options. Never, never, never give up.


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06-10-2008 08:35 AM
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I wish they had jobs like that available, I would just like a job that I can do by myself or mostly by myself. That would be excellent. For the school year, I have a job as a receptionist, and it is made more difficult due to there being two vents, one that whistles, and one that blows air, and it causes lots of sensory problems. I would like a job with less social interaction, that would be great.


What sort of work would you do?
What sort of organisation would you work for?


Sorry, I haven't answered. Hmm... what sort of work would I do? I don't exactly understand what this is asking.Do you mean, what organisation would hire me with these restrictions that I am setting?

Sorry, I don't understand, exactly.


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quickduck Wrote:
But this doesn’t mean that accommodation shouldn’t be made. If an employer wants to get the best out of an employee--tackling sensory issues--reducing social interaction--having a rota--allowing the use of email instead of phone--can all increase productivity…
They are only minor accommodations and may even help non-aspie employees function better as well.


My husband was helped INCREDIBLY by simply removing the flourescent light bulbs above his desk.  Years of being miserable solved by a quick action of removing bulbs.  (Exasperated sigh.)

Its amazing how much difference a change in lighting or a reduction in noise can make. I find that I get twice as much work done if I come into the office early or stay late. There's a noticable drop in background noise--and I can stay relaxed and focused for longer.


Yeah, me too. There is often a constant babble but late in the afternoon, it's very quiet.

09-24-2008 01:57 PM
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yes it can be quiet in the afternoons at offices. i think that is because most are trying to sleep off liquid lunches after some heavy lunchtime socialising. Which is great if you want to get something done.


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Cleaning crews can be noisy especially when they bring their niños along.  No offense, but young children are noisy no matter what ethnicity they are.


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micgrace Wrote:
yes it can be quiet in the afternoons at offices.

Unless you have a neighbour who goes off to a two-hour meeting and leaves her mobile phone on her desk - switched on. Rolleyes Rolleyes Rolleyes


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Darn mobile phones. the ring tones that some people put on them are abyssmal. It is very inconsiderate to have the thing turned on normal I wish they would select silent. I don't want to know their choice of music or worse, insult to answer the mobile.


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What sort of work would you do?
What sort of organisation would you work for?

Sorry, I haven't answered. Hmm... what sort of work would I do? I don't exactly understand what this is asking.Do you mean, what organisation would hire me with these restrictions that I am setting?
Sorry, I don't understand, exactly.


What sort of job would you prefer? In a closed office, or in a classroom, or laboratory, or on the road as a sales rep? Would you like to be an accountant, or a manager, or a mail clerk, or a teacher, or a scientist, or any other particular area of interest?


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Questions that get asked at job interviews usually include, "What can you tell me about your strengths" and "Tell me about your weaknesses."

I have missed out on jobs because I have said that I can't lie to a customer.
As for weaknesses, I usually say that I have trouble with "good enough".

What do you say?


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I thought that telling anyone of your weaknesses was inviting further putdowns but I suppose saying "I am a perfectionist" could count as a weakness in some contexts.


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