Would the term 'Aspergian Nationalist' be better?

Why not, "Aspergian Cybernation or Cybernational"?  That makes your intentions clear from the outset, and you don't have to explain the basic principle all the time...

The problem is that if I changed the name of my group it will cause confusion.

The problem is that if I changed the name of my group it will cause confusion.

Mmmm...true.  Sorry to be causing problems for you - not my intention.  Maybe it's just something to bear in mind as the project develops and there may come a point where a change, if there is one, would be more natural and helpful.

Btw, I googled Black Zionism and Liberia - very interesting!  I do understand why you're using the term - the whole idea of a homeland and somewhere for the diaspora to be safe, secure, free to express themselves fully and so on...

Good on you, and all the best!

ATM: I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I think that, just as African-Americans and other oppressed groups have identified with the Jewish theme of Exodus, so might the Spectrum.  And, just as true Muslims, even those who may not be so fond of Zionism, still identify with strong Jewish themes as part of their religion, so it is that Aspies and Jews have a strong link.  Both are set apart ("KDSH"=Set Apart=Holiness).  I think that it is a wonderful connection between two groups.  Think about "interest threads" and the spending of hours studying Ancient Texts!

For a further exploration of my journey on this, please read "Purim Thoughts":

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthre...?tid=12425

My only potential concern with "Aspie Zionism" is that, just as with Muslims and Christians who have identified "Zion" as their own movement, there could be the potential for a type of Replacement Ideology.  "Israel" is identified with the new religion or ideology, and not with the physical people Israel.  I would be careful that any "Zion" movement does not seek cultural co-option of Jewish themes.  Too many European-American ideologies do this, and this co-option of "Zion" is often in the secular realm as well (Marxism/Left Anarchism stealing their final battle between worker and oppressor from Jewish-Christian Apocalypticism, Black Nationalists claiming to be the "real" Jews, White racists claiming the same thing, environmentalists hoping for a New Eden, et al).  

Have a "Zionist" movement, but let it be Aspie and not pseudo-Hebraic.  Do not seek to take what was not given, or to co-opt someone else's culture.  The west has been doing this since the time of Alexander, and it went in to hyper-drive during the late nineteenth century.  There is more than one way to be "KDSH" (Set Apart), my "Aspie Zionist" friends.  

And, remember that there is more than one Covenant.  The Non-Israelite is under the Seven Laws of Noah, which is a beautiful Covenant in its simplicity:

http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthre...?tid=11662

There is therefore no need for Gentiles to feel inadequate, or to feel that they need to co-opt the 613 Laws of Moses for themselves. The Seven Noahide Laws are enough to be counted righteous for those among the Seventy Nations, if pursued with all of your heart, mind and soul.

Happy Purim.  

All the best.

I too advise against the use of the word "Zionist." That word has far too many negative connotations to be used as the name of your movement. To me, Zionism is associated with the never ending conflict in the Mid-East, Palestinian refugee camps that have been established for 60 years, the illegal Jewish settlements in the Palestinian territories, etc. If you were to use the word "Zionist" in your organization's mission, then you would lose the support of many who would otherwise support you fully.

The extreme right wing organisations are very fond of the word too; as in the 'zog' abbreviation. That's what I associated it with right of. Though it didn't have anything to do with that.

As a convinced nationalist and anti-zionist, I most definitely prefer that label to the label "Aspergian Zionist Movement".

I don't know if a real community with only Aspies would work, though. Organisation would way too easily become a mess

I don't have time for a "cybernation".  I'm Aspergis, all right, but I've got kids, an ex-wife, a wife, a job that doesn't pay enough, so I have to work hours and hours of overtime, custody issues, a real life.  I don't have time for a pretend life in a pretend country.

Now, point me in a direction that'll fix my money problems, and I'll be behind you.

Listen everyone, I quit that business due to the unpopularity of the project. I even made a thread to confirm the dissolution (both AZM and ANLA). http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthre...?tid=12481

So I'm asking kindly to stop increasing the conversation of this thread.

B"H

I favor the term "Autistic Zionism," at least in some respects.  However, I disagree with the potential for some kind of "Replacement" of Israelites with some other group.  "Zionism" as a proper term belongs to Israelites.  Many religions claim that their particular religion supersedes Judaism, and that they are the real Israel, while they are strangely resistant to actually *FOLLOWING* Torah law.  Yet, I know that Rastafarians and others have identified with Zionist ideas (Exodus, Queen Esther, et al).  I can respect that.

My biggest problem with all forms of modern nationalism is that they ground their sovereignty in "We the People," starting with the American and French Revolutions, instead of in G-d.  Aspergian  "Zionism" would probably be no different, considering the number of atheists and agnostics on this forum.  Thus, I think that Aspergian nationalism might exist in the times of the Messianic Age, but probably not today.  Instead, be loyal to whatever nation you happen to be in, and make it better.

By the way, Dave Emory, an Anti-Fascist researcher, exposes the lies connected with "peak oil," "over-population," and the rebirth of Social Darwinism:

http://www.wfmu.org/playlists/shows/27313

http://www.wfmu.org/listen.ram?show=27313&archive=42921

http://www.wfmu.org/flashplayer.php?show...hive=42922

A so-called "evolutionary psychologist" has just said that working class people have lower IQ's.  Hillary Clinton is campaigning among the KKK-leaning voters, in an all-time moral low.  We live in evil times.  This trend will have devastating effects on people considered "handicapped."  Again, I will say this one last time, we may not agree with everything 8Magus8 has said, but he *DID* warn us on this point.  And, most of you refused to heed his warning.  I will say no more on it, since I intend to use this forum for self-knowledge at this point.  

All the best.

Can you explain cybernation?

No offence, but can't you guys take a hint? I quitted the AZM, so get over it.

Meanwhile, we kinda need more people to step forward as potential trustees for the real thing......

The problem is that if I changed the name of my group it will cause confusion.

Turn it on its head.  The problem is that if you don't change the name of your group it will cause confusion.  

I also confused it with Zionism in relation to Israel and was wondering what the link was...