Just a little rant.

My 17 year old AS son told me today that at school they are studying Buddhism.

His teacher told him that according to Buddhist teaching, his Aspergers' & skin condition are the result of behaving badly in a past life!  ( the teacher did say that he personally didn't believe this.)

I know a little about Buddhism &  with the help of the internet, spent a couple of hours trying to convince John that this is not always the case.
I think that I succeeded, but John tends to believe that the teachers know everything & can't be wrong.

Anyone else had a stupid comment made such as this?

Pfff! That irks me when teachers say such horrible thing. I think its Tiggerthewing that says that if you replaced Asperger's with "black" in a statement and made that statement racist than its bad. (horribly liberal memory, sorry)

Same thing here, if a teacher said that buddhists believed that because someone was black because of bad behaviour it would be a very bad thing to say...

Humans are so dumb.

I am have two distinct reactions -- the first is to feel that this teacher needs to consider more carefully how a teacher's words could affect a student, and the second is to wonder why it would be assumed that AS, or any other genetic predisposition for that matter, would necessarily be a form of punishment rather than a type of reward. The value-neutral way to describe the idea of reincarnation, would be to say the the person you are is inextricably linked to the beings you have been prior to this life. And so.

Seems to be a point of view sort of thing.  If (generally speaking) you're an NT and look upon AS as a "disabillity", the teachers comment, though both thoughtless and misguided makes sense.  If on the other hand you look on AS (as I do being one) as a difference or a blessing, then the statement is insensitive, discriminatory, and down right rude.

What seems consistant is that the (pardon MY rant) Socialist public ed system that says it cherishes diversity etc. consistantly trys to shove everyone into pre-ordained pigeonholes, and if you don't fit into the holes they have avillable, you're just "not normal" and perhaps should be medicated or "treated".  Phah!!

I think that the Buddha himself was an Aspie!

1) Life is suffering

2) Suffering is caused by attatchment and craving

3) There is a path away from this suffering

4) That path is the eight fold path to enlightenment

These are the four noble truths as given to us by our lord the Buddha

By the way, I'm not trying to convert anybody, just thought it would be relevant

I'm not seeing how any of that is "aspie" but I will agree since the little I know about Buddha is that he meditated a lot out of doors and alone... sounds pretty much like a "hermit" aspie.   Sorry if that's horrible ignorant.

My life for the immortal God Emperor Buddha ;p

That's appalling.
You should make a complaint to your education authority about this and also a buddhist organisation as they may be very interested to hear how their religion is being misrepresented.

Also, the teacher should apologise publicly and / or issue a publicised written apology.

This behaviour is inexcuseable.

Sounds like your typical rabid Christian teacher who read the teacher summary and jumped to his own conclusions.

Your son should have responded with "Oh, is that why you are so stupid?"

We are the way we are due to our thoughts, inclinations, actions of all our past lives and current life, yes, but  to think of it as a "punishment" is to entirely miss the boat intellectually. We are where we need to be spiritually.

He was making a judgment too- assumed the AS was a punishment. What a creep!

I am sorry to read what was said to your son and I am sure that it would be very hurtful to hear. However, I do believe that the teacher was trying to make a valid point on how some schools of Buddhism think about cause and effect leading to illness. The issue here of course is that we all know that AS is NOT an illness. But hey your son's teavher is probably amongst the great unenlightened.

See the following extract below taken from : http://www.dharma-haven.org/tibetan/tibe...ealing.htm in particualr the third paragrapgh which contains:" Tibetan Buddhist believes that karma (simply stated, the law of cause and effect) from one's previous incarnations can also be responsible for our illnesses in our present experience".

I hope this helps at least explain why it may have happened - but I know as an Aspie and a prent of an aspie that this will not take the pain away.

ETIOLOGY OF ILLNESS

In an early Mahayana text, the Buddhist sage Vimalakirti mused that, "All sentient beings are ill" (Birnbaum, p.13). To the Tibetan, the inevitability of suffering and illness is a reflection of the fact that we are born. The Tibetans believe that we "take birth" because we are ignorant of the true nature of reality and that it is this ignorance that is the cause of all suffering and disorder. Dr. Yeshi Donden remarked that "the root [of illness] is beginningless ignorance" and that "ignorance is with us like our own shadow . . . even if we think that we are in very good health, actually we have had the basic cause of illness since beginningless time" (Donden, p. 26).  

Tibetans believe that our false perceptions of the world and its projections actually change the world, which is fundamentally neutral. Moreover, people become attached to ego-centered views, which "contain the seeds of profound misunderstanding of what it means to have Being in this world" (Walsh-Frank, p. 8). Consequently, because "all phenomena are mere reflections and designation of the mind" (Thonduk, p.193), and the mind is driven by delusional thinking, samsara (our perception of the phenomenal world) is filled with suffering.  

Furthermore, the Tibetan Buddhist believes that karma (simply stated, the law of cause and effect) from one's previous incarnations can also be responsible for our illnesses in our present experience. Sakyamuni, the historical Buddha, explained this principle when he said:  

In sooth to every man that's born  
A hatchet grows within his mouth,  

Wherewith the fool, whene'er he speaks  

And speaks amiss, doth cut himself . . . (quoted from Samyutta-nikaya in Birnbaum, p.9)

Thus, the distant causes of the diseases are seated in the past mental environment which was influenced by "afflictive emotions"--mental factors that are the root cause of all illness. While these factors are impossible to enumerate, they are all the consequences of ignorance (Donden, p.15). Ignorance generates other negative states of mind such as desire, hatred, jealousy and pride. Such negative emotions drive our mentations, and our mentations contribute to our suffering.  However, our emotional energies are neither good nor bad in themselves; for example, the energy/intelligence that turns to hatred when siezed in the neurotic grip of ego can also manifest as simple, clear awareness of the true situation--thus it is how we relate to our emotional energies that is crucial to well-ness. Understanding one's emotions is an essential part of the Buddhist journey to full awakening and freedom form unwanted conditions of all sorts. However, since most of us have very little ability to work with our emotional energies without creating negative experiences, medicines and other remedies are required.  

While Tibetan notions of the law of karma imply infinite interlinked causes for any single event, three emotions, known as the "Three Interior Poisons," are considered to be at the root of all illness. The first poison is desire or passion, which implies grasping at objects or pleasant experiences. Desire is also perceived as "grasping at self" where self is our involvement with any object of our desire whether it is a chair, person or idea (Tsarong, p.17). And self, which involves a subject grasping an object, is an illusion to which we cling, because we still do not understand that anitya(impermanence) is a primordial condition of living in samsara. Similarly, hatred, or aversion, regarded as the second poison, consists of pushing away unpleasant experiences or objects. Finally, ignorance, or confusion, which involves misunderstanding the nature of an object or a particular experience, is the third poison of the mind.

Pfff! That irks me when teachers say such horrible thing. I think its Tiggerthewing that says that if you replaced Asperger's with "black" in a statement and made that statement racist than its bad. (horribly liberal memory, sorry)

Same thing here, if a teacher said that buddhists believed that because someone was black because of bad behaviour it would be a very bad thing to say...

Humans are so dumb.

which reminds me of the game destroy all humans!

any way i can see how your son feels if something like that was said to me i would have taken it very offensively

about stupid comments well someone in my science class asked if our science group was the highest and one girl said that "how can it be with people like *lloyd in here?"

* my name

Some teachers are dire, but then teaching pays poor, so you are not going to always get bright grads with 1st from a top uni teaching the subject. Asides, do you expect teachers not to make mistakes?

We don't expect teachers not to make mistakes. Not having a basic sense of compassion and understanding for all children, and how they might take hurtful things like what that teacher said, to heart is what we expect teachers shouldn't do.

Also this reminds me, I had a looney teacher in grammar school, who I guess we watched A Fire in the Sky or some other alien abduction film. She said that we could all be abducted by aliens at any time. Lots of angry parents called in the next day, saying their child had a nightmare over what she said.

^ Wow... o__0

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That was really insensitive of the teacher to say. How could someone point out something that... personal, in front of the whole class?

Plus, if I was Buddhist, I would be pretty offended...