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The fun with dummy Network Cards
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Phillip J Fry
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The fun with dummy Network Cards
I was wondering about adding a second network card to my Pc, as a security measure, against a**holes who like to use my computer as a proxy network. I recently been b*tched at by my father who moniters our home server network about having open ports on my system. This was of course due to a application enabling network share. But back to the matter, I was wondering if I added another network card to my system, can I set it up to be a dummy card. I want this card to be able to show up with a few opened ports, and when they try to use it as a proxy, it automaticly reroutes their browser to connect to a bunch of sites riddled with viruses. I think my Dad called this a honey pot but don't fully understand what that is.
The point of this is to trick the a**hole into thinking I have a few vulernable ports opened and use the dummy network card as a trap. Maybe I could be real nasty and redirect their IP to a illegal site cause I'm just that fed up with this sh*t... If anyone knows any tricks I could set up or use please let me know cause I'm just that fed up
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| 03-14-2012 08:31 AM |
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BruceCM
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
Honey pot sounds like a spy thriller thing (probably based on real life but the point remains, either way). Where, typically, an attractive woman would, basically, seduce a male agent, to compromise them in some way or another. Hopefully, that's enough of an explanation for your purposes? Dunno about dummy network cards or if there's other ways to block your 'holes' but I'm sure some here will do! Best wishes with that.
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| 03-14-2012 07:36 PM |
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Phillip J Fry
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
The whole point is to look like I have a couple of ports opened so the attacker would think their getting a free proxy network off of my system and the second they use these "opened ports" It would automatically redirect their browser, non stop, through sites known to contain nasty viruses. That's what I was wondering about using a network card for, to act as a mouse trap for these a**holes. I'm now reading up on how TCP/IP works with a pdf book that's over a thousand pages long
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| 03-15-2012 10:49 AM |
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BruceCM
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
Yeah, that's about what I thought! Though I'd have no idea at all how to do it, it's usually possible to find out, if you want to, fortunately. Best wishes with it.
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| 03-15-2012 10:58 AM |
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
What would be the point of having open ports on the second card if it doesn't connect to a network?
If you want to run a honeypot, google for honeypotd - no need for a physical extra card.


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| 03-26-2012 02:46 AM |
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
You only need a second network card if you have a second cable, you can use a virtual interface (such as a Bridge with no physical devices) if you want an interface with nothing connected.
A single interface can have an arbitrary number of IP addresses, so if you want your PC to look a bit like two systems you can do that without getting a second network device.
A honeypot is something that requires a lot of skill to do properly. If you need to ask about how to do it then you shouldn't be doing it. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but the results of running a honeypot badly are really unpleasant.
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| 03-26-2012 05:06 AM |
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Phillip J Fry
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
Well maybe I'm getting ahead of myself here, after all I don't know that much about networking. I think I should take a couple of years of reading up on IP/TCP before I do things like honey pots and second network cards and the likes of. I'm still a complete noob to Linux, and it's like my Dad tells me, I should get to know Linux inside and out before I do advance things with it. I already had to reinstall Ubuntu after screwing up SliTaz, (It's a long story) but Ubuntu is incredibly slow on my system and lags a lot. So I'm going to stick with Ubuntu until I'm really good with Linux. Thank you all for being honest with me.
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| 04-07-2012 12:23 AM |
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
You might consider getting another PC to experiment with. Then one have one for serious stuff like email and web browsing and another for testing out new software etc.
PCs are really cheap nowadays. If you have the skill to install Linux without help then you can easily get a PC for free in any first-world country. In my region they have quite usable systems dumped for rubbish collection when the council collects "hard rubbish" (anything that's too big or too heavy for the regular bins). In the city there are often businesses dumping fully functional PCs in rubbish skips. Also companies that do e-waste processing don't stop people doing collections at the same time as doing deliveries (I once deposited an old P3 system and collected a quad-core 64bit system).
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| 04-07-2012 08:02 AM |
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Phillip J Fry
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
I love collecting old computers that people consider junk. If they only knew how awesome Linux was, but you know what they say, one man's trash, is another man's treasure . I'd love to get this old Dell Altitude laptop working again but I think the motherboard is fried : ( I'm currently trying to get this old power Pc from the year 1995 to work again. The problem is, it won't turn on. I've checked every power connector and everything that connects together to make sure nothing was loose or damaged and I can't see any signs of damage. It must be a internal thing, or it's fried too as well.
My point is I'm a pack-rat when it comes to old pc, hardware, books, etc. I just love everything to do with computers
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| 04-19-2012 07:21 AM |
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
You might consider getting another PC to experiment with. Then one have one for serious stuff like email and web browsing and another for testing out new software etc.
PCs are really cheap nowadays. If you have the skill to install Linux without help then you can easily get a PC for free in any first-world country. In my region they have quite usable systems dumped for rubbish collection when the council collects "hard rubbish" (anything that's too big or too heavy for the regular bins). In the city there are often businesses dumping fully functional PCs in rubbish skips. Also companies that do e-waste processing don't stop people doing collections at the same time as doing deliveries (I once deposited an old P3 system and collected a quad-core 64bit system).
What was wrong with the PS3?


“Lanie, I’m going to print more printers. Lots more printers. One for everyone. That’s worth going to jail for. That’s worth anything.” - Printcrime by Cory Doctrow
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| 05-29-2012 09:46 AM |
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
Also, modern linux distros are no harder to install than windows, the problem is that most people don't install windows on their own either - it comes preinstalled.
Generally with something like ubuntu you just stick the CD in and follow the instructions on-screen, if you're not an expert then don't select the "expert mode" and use the defaults,which are configured for an average desktop user.


“Lanie, I’m going to print more printers. Lots more printers. One for everyone. That’s worth going to jail for. That’s worth anything.” - Printcrime by Cory Doctrow
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| 05-29-2012 09:50 AM |
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
ahhhh- I am so dumb (ignorant too) I have no idea if I have an open port or how to find out... (what? more things to worry about?!)
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This post was last modified: 05-29-2012 03:19 PM by windy.
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| 05-29-2012 03:19 PM |
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Phillip J Fry
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
???? :/ I'm not sure any-more if people are making fun of me or not on here, but if my post's are really that trivial, than maybe I should stop posting stupid sh*t
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| 05-29-2012 04:34 PM |
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
???? :/ I'm not sure any-more if people are making fun of me or not on here, but if my post's are really that trivial, than maybe I should stop posting stupid sh*t 
I read this whole thread and all the posts - I do not think any one is making fun of you in any way. I do not know where you might get the idea about your thread or posts being trivial. People like you, it seems to me.
(I am sorry if my comment about ME not knowing anything at all about open ports gave you any other impression other than ME not knowing a thing) You know tons more than me.
Oh my reply was meant very seriously (About me only) - no sarcasm at all. I am ignorant about this stuff.
This post was last modified: 05-29-2012 05:03 PM by windy.
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| 05-29-2012 05:02 PM |
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Phillip J Fry
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RE: The fun with dummy Network Cards
I'm sorry Windy I'm just so tired and fed up with criminals online that I'm a bit touchy any more. I barely know anything about open ports as well, but I do know how to scan my home server address using nmap in a terminal. I don't know how to stop suspicious services (Or what to look for signs of) But I am learning :/ I think Window users can get nmap for Microsoft though I don't know run it in Windows. The last time I ran Windows was like one and a half years ago, and I forgotten (and don't miss) everything about Windows since I converted to Linux...
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| 05-29-2012 10:31 PM |
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