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Dark Shamshir X
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AS a separate form of humans? Evolution?
Since our DNA could be different from other humans, and we are possibly descendants of Neanderthals, is it possible that ASD's are actually a separate form of human. And if for those with AS, (including me) do you believe that Asperger's is actually the next step in human evolution?
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| 10-31-2007 03:59 AM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans? Evolution?
We're all humans.
End of story.
"I discovered another sequence of nucleotides, this one is Rigellian! mm hahah, this corpse is full of surprises!" - Dr. Phlox.
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| 10-31-2007 04:24 AM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans? Evolution?
Compared to other species there is isn't much genetic variation in humans. Aspies are probably the result of only a few different genes. To answer your other question, evolution is unguided; there is no next step.
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| 10-31-2007 04:30 AM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans? Evolution?
So you guys are telling me, that AS isn't a breakthrough?
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If ten times the enemy's strength, surround them; if five times, attack them; if double, divide them; if equal, be able to fight them; if fewer, be able to evade them; if weaker, be able to avoid them.
All warfare is based on deception.
If your enemy is choleric, seek to anger him.
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| 11-02-2007 03:11 AM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans? Evolution?
So you guys are telling me, that AS isn't a breakthrough?
Breakthrough implies that it's deliberate. Autism created itself entirely through random genetic interaction.
Besides which, we ain't better or worse - just different.
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| 11-02-2007 10:29 AM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans? Evolution?
well it hasn't been proved but i hasnt been disproved personally it would be cool if aspies were a seperate type of human but then again that could have disastrous affects like limitations of human rights but it could also have a good affect oh well time will tell
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| 11-02-2007 10:28 PM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans?  Evolution?
Well we ARE mutants, have slightly different physiology(such as altered white to grey matter ratio in the brain, brain size, and the way the frontal lobe connects to the other parts of the brain), and mental states that are instinctive in most baseline humans.
Mutation is the key to Evolution.
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| 11-08-2011 02:20 AM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans?  Evolution?
Are we really more different from the average as men are from women? Really? Truly, then, if men and women are to not be considered subspecies, surely we ought to not be either?
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| 11-14-2011 04:53 PM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans?  Evolution?
If you really wanna get into the subject I'll break it down to you.
Back in the day when we were all apes, there were those who ate leaves, those whom would eat meat and those whom would eat both.
There was a difference with all three of them, beginning from what they were capable of, difference with their bone structure (specially their skull) and difference with their preferences in many more aspects than just what they ate.
It happens even thought they were different they still were races alike, just like dogs and their breeds.
Not only it has to do with how human is evolving at the moment but this is too the cause of why there's people with no wisdom teeth, two of them or four.
Usually it's black people the ones who have four, not because they are lesser evolved than white people but because their species required it back in the day and for longer period of time than white people did. Also, remember that white people were a mutation from black people.
Asians in the other hand don't have wisdom tooth, or at least most of them don't and back in the day didn't, this is because of their diet when they were about in that age and because whether we like it or not, they been around a little longer.
In the other hand white people are as I said a mutation of black people, being white doesn't make us superior, it had to do with lightining and UV rays and how we basically dyed white for some reason. Half of us have 4 white teeth, 1/4 has none and the remaining only get two.
Usually you'll see most vegans and vegetarians who preferred vegetables always and started up their diet at young age don't have wisdom teeth or only have two.
People who eat a lot of meat or seem to have a preference to meat will usually have four.
Most black people will usually have four, and asians will have two or none.
I hope not to be mistaken with this information, but these are my two cents. I also hope you got my point.
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| 11-28-2011 05:55 PM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans?  Evolution?
If Aspies have existed over some time (as it seems) there might be a natural balance between NTs and Aspies, instead of what you might call an evolution towards one side.
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| 11-28-2011 08:41 PM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans?  Evolution?
As I said in another thread, humanity would settle into an equilibrium between AS and NT as a consequence of genetics.
Half of us have 4 white teeth, 1/4 has none and the remaining only get two.
Hmmm, are you sure? That would suggest that those who are heterozygotes would have 4 wisdom teeth, while those who are homozygous would only have 2 or 0, which doesn't make much sense to me... such a simple characteristic, if genetic, would almost certainly show a Mendelian pattern.
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| 11-28-2011 09:08 PM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans?  Evolution?
If Aspies have existed over some time (as it seems) there might be a natural balance between NTs and Aspies, instead of what you might call an evolution towards one side.
Then Maybe Aspies exist to fuel evolution, we have a higher mutation rate and mutation is the driving force of evolution so why not?
The only problem is our lack of certain skills that would benefit us with progeny.
Mutation is the key to Evolution.
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| 11-29-2011 12:49 AM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans?  Evolution?
We don't have a higher rate of mutations... you misread the article.
Maybe Autists could form a new subspecies. Maybe. What are you doing to try and hurry the process along?
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| 11-29-2011 02:43 PM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans?  Evolution?
I cant believe I spelled ''white'' if not ''wisdom''.
However, yeah, it doesn't make much sense but if you read up on it, it makes complete sense. I am just not good at explaining long things.
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| 11-29-2011 07:22 PM |
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RE: AS a separate form of humans?  Evolution?
I think that Aspie/Autistic should be a subspecies, after all, technically subspecies aren't about genetic diversity, they are about habitat and reproductive diversity. So considering that most Aspies and NTs want to keep to their 'own' (typically) as well as the large genetic and physiological difference, a subspecies classification seems to be close.
I think it would be Homo Sapiens Autismus, since Autismus is the New Latin word for autistic, and roughly translated means 'introverted wise man'.
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