You are quite obviously a real man; she's obviously not a real human being. different is good- stupid *** is not, so forget her. her rude and personal comment is also very inappropriate for the workplace. if she tries it again tell her so.

That's a rather sweeping generalization! Many women have a strong "maternal" urge and are particularily drawn to men that some would call weak, lost, troubled, different...

I'm not saying you're any of these things, Michael- i'm just rebutting nb's comment.

Yes you are right. She may have had a problem that day and she is nasty and horrible. She knew I was immature where these things were concerned and it didn't take much for her to get me to tell her all these negative things about myself. Its true that I am immature where close relationships are concerned and I stick with my parents because its security and protection. I shouldn't be telling people about this because it does make me look weak and childish and a loser. It is AS that causes this it makes knowing when to tell the truth is going to be the right thing to do and once I've told truths like I have I continue being seen as weak and worthless. It is all very complicated.

you said, "women are not attracted to men they percieve as weak, and can be rather hurtful...".

i did not say a mommy relationship. by "maternal" (originally in quotations for this reason) i was referring to the tendency for many people, not just women, to be attracted to and feel protective of another person's weaknesses or foibles.

many women, including me, find the idea of a MAN (uppercase emphasis yours) very unattractive. my mother has been happily married to a lowercase man for 21 years. why is being different not masculine? it takes great courage to be different.

i would be interested to know what your definition of a "MAN" is.

ok. Thank you.

bang on.

Why would a woman not be able to put her likes or dislikes it into words? This statement smacks of sexism. Absolute fact? This is your absolute OPINION, and your personal THEORY- but not a fact. Where is your proof?
  
You wrote that women want a man that...

My last boyfriend was an inch shorter I, and I never noticed which side of the pavement he walked on.
If by protective you mean physically, then no- that's not necessary either. I happily take care of myself (and my boyfriend if he needs it : ) ).

SO unimportant.

? I prefer a man whose vocabulary reaches further than "no".

What kind of research? I'd love a reference.

I would say honesty, a good sense of humour, a respectful attitude, good hygiene, and an open and active mind are the deal makers/breakers.

I find it interesting that "saying no", status, being taller, and even standing on the outside of the kerb made your list- but honesty and respect did not. I think you priorities are very unusual. The average woman (as or nt) is far more sensible.

Why is being different not masculine? It takes great courage to be different.

Courage is always relevant.

You wouldn't happen to be into that "sarging" scene, would you? Your attitude sounds familiar.

Yes, under the current circumstances you and people with AS are disabled. Probably, I can agree to put it this way. But probably, I won't.  The fact that people do not know enough about autsitic brain does not mean there is something wrong with autistic people. Human civilization exists for thousands years, and morally and spiritually hasn't progressed a lot since its very beginning. I am very much affraid I sound pathetic, but the truth is that we hasn't found the God yet and He didn't say yet that our way is the only good way. Money is not a God. We live in a money world, you are right, and few of us live with the God. I just want to say, that we live because we are to be appreciated for what we are, not because we are to be hated. We need to progress in understanding of diversity. Not only train our autistic and asperger kids to adjust to self-confident us, but to doubt ourselves and our ways of living and change them for better.
I cannot possibly imagine what it is like to live in a world, ruled by people with different type of psychics. I am an NT living in NT world. But I would like to ask you to not trust us when we are mistaken.  Forgive us for not knowing. Again, I am affraid to sound pathetic, and not practical.  I teach my son to speak my language and live in the real world. But one thing that I would like to make clear is that every AS man and woman are real.  Michael is one of the most real persons for me, even though we never met. You were brave enough to disclose your doubt in yourself, and not every NT man can do it.  

Just wanted to disagree that AS are losers, and should be ashamed about living with parents, not going out. It's OK to be different.

It seems more like you were agreeing with green0horse rather than dissagreeing. Couldn't the dollar be considered some sort of Idol? After all, it's the image of the greed's influence isn't it? And, greed has caused alot of people to do very stupid, or riskey things.

In my oppinion, social needs are a desire for some form of emotional affection that lacks in some area. That need is so stitched into many societies that it's a 'must do it or else you are stupid, rude, or ill" concept.

Sheesh, I need to learn to stop my self hitting impulses. -.- Aren't I just a little hypocrate.

lets keep god and spiritual beliefs out of this.

I think what you have written is noble and idealistic but in truth, the majority of the NT population doesn't care, and why should they? it has nothing to do with their material wealth or any other aspect of their lives.

and the NTs that do care are incompedant and wish to eliminate our very thoughts. they would have us be druged up brainwashed drones rather than help us adapt. they touture us in JRC, they call us an epidimic. I saw this one add that said "having a child with autism is like someone kidnapping your childs personality and soul" (I can post a link to the add).

I am glad you arent jaded but at that same token you have to look at the situation realistically, life for a person with aspie is like playing poker with a bad hand.

I agree with you completely. although we are somewhat different it seems that we are living close to the same life. this life is so very tedious and pointless for the very reasons you just pointed out. I feel trapt and im sure you do too.

thanks for starting this thread, it helps to know that there are other out there like me.

Ok, I will not argue, but I will keep my opinion.

She is a real ***. If anyone said that to me, I'd just say "Well you're one to talk and don't question my personal life if all you are going to do is be really insensitive".

How are you a waste of space just because you live with your parents? My aunt Eliane lived with my gran and grampa until she got married and she isn't a waste of space.

My view is that people who say such things are insecure, or have overly conditional security.

And it's often learned from society: all their life they've heard people say things like this, and they've come to believe it.  If they had a situation like yours, they'd feel the same way about themselves.  Heck, maybe they do already.  I've known people who are extremely critical of both themselves and others, because they've absorbed and accepted the viewpoint that Y is bad so anyone who has trait Y, be it self or other, is a waste of space.

It's a waste of time, IMO, for people to have to think like that when they could be so much happier not having to look down on people.