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Interest in Japanese culture? - Meiloyn - 12-30-2006 03:54 AM

If you read the excerpt from Meiloyn's Saga, then you may guess that I have an interest in Japanese culture. Any other Japanophiles around here?


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Bob Bobson - 12-30-2006 04:07 AM

I have a mild interest in japanese culture, and I enjoy watching films and anime and reading manga. Infact I generally only watch japanese films or films with a heavy japanese influence.

I think my interest in this stems from my special interest in japanese RPGs


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Meiloyn - 12-30-2006 08:47 PM

Bob Bobson Wrote:
I have a mild interest in japanese culture, and I enjoy watching films and anime and reading manga. Infact I generally only watch japanese films or films with a heavy japanese influence.

I think my interest in this stems from my special interest in japanese RPGs


Did you ever watch an old movie called Yojimbo? And the ancient TV movie Shogun?


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Bob Bobson - 12-30-2006 11:07 PM

I have not watched those films, but if they are good I hope to one day. I assume they are set about the time of the Edo period (1603- 1867) (I don't actually know much about it, I just have a game set in that era called Kessen).

I am intrigued by this Yojimbo, there is an Aeon named after him in Final Fantasy X, could you tell me more about him?

Most of the japanese movies I have watched have been fairly modern. I think Kagemusha is the oldest one I have seen.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Meiloyn - 12-31-2006 12:45 AM

Bob Bobson Wrote:
I have not watched those films, but if they are good I hope to one day. I assume they are set about the time of the Edo period (1603- 1867) (I don't actually know much about it, I just have a game set in that era called Kessen).

I am intrigued by this Yojimbo, there is an Aeon named after him in Final Fantasy X, could you tell me more about him?

Most of the japanese movies I have watched have been fairly modern. I think Kagemusha is the oldest one I have seen.

I think he was called Yojimbo because he was an Aeon, a bodyguard of the summoner, and he was samurai-like. Yojimbo means bodyguard. I didn't actually like him much anyway because you had to play him money to attack.

I can barely remember the movie, but it was a famous movie in Japan. It was about a rogue samurai who arrived at a town looking for a job as samurai. He ended up serving a daimyo who was currently at war with another. I think.

Shogun is about an Englishman named John Blackthorne in the beginning of the 17 century, sailing for the Dutch to find the "Japans". His ship is attacked by a storm not too far away from shore, and he wakes up in the care of a Japanese peasant woman. He leaves the village and finds out that his crew had been imprisoned and the Portuguese had already landed at Japan. He is quickly renamed Anjin, Japanese for pilot since he piloted the ship, and was actually the name I remembered better. blah blah blah there's some other stuff and after being imprisoned for a second time by the Portuguese, he gets bailed out and learns that the evil Portuguese are stealing Japanese goods. He tells the daimyo Toranaga about this and blah blah blah and more stuff. (Also, Toranaga is at war against Lord Ishido who is with the Portuguese) Anjin falls in love with a woman named Mariko who serves Toranaga, but they are forbidden to be in love because Mariko is already married. Anjin also becomes a samurai or captain of the samurai, I forgot which. Toranaga wants Anjin to live and stay in Japan, even though he misses his home.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ian - 12-31-2006 01:12 AM

Ah me and my better half (ooh cheeky ;p) are just loving modern Japan, especially in terms of popular culture/business >3


some of the history is good also.

Ian


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Bob Bobson - 12-31-2006 02:36 AM

Sorry, I meant Yojimbo in the film, I know almost everything about the aeon (it is part of my special interest). I didn't know yojimbo meant bodyguard though, so thanks for telling it me.I also hated how you have to pay him to get him to do anything, but he does have Zantetsuken the most powerful move in the game, capable of felling even Penance in one hit. Depending on how much he likes you he sometimes does stuff for free. I can only get him to use Wakizashi or Kozuka for free though.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Bob Bobson - 12-31-2006 02:47 AM

Shogun sounds interesting I may watch it some day.

My favourite japanese movie (and so favourite movie) is Battle Royale. The basic premise is that a class of 15 year olds are stuck on an island and are forced to kill each other. The last boy/girl standing gets to go home. Each person trys a different approach to the problem facing them.
How I wished to do that to my class sometimes.

It is very exciting to watch, and for a week afterwards it was all I talked about to my two friends.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ian - 12-31-2006 02:53 AM



:p


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ian - 12-31-2006 02:54 AM

ooh, films with heavy japanese influence? you like Blade Runner, Bob?  even now I still see it as a realistic vision of mankinds future.

Ian


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Bob Bobson - 12-31-2006 03:03 AM

I have never seen Blade Runner, it has never been on tele as far as I have noticed, which is sad. Infact I hadn't noticed it at all until I watched it on AutTV, which is strange because it was meant to be a big movie.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ian - 12-31-2006 05:42 AM

i got it on dvd, from HMV..no doubt you can pick it up too Smile

Ian


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Bob Bobson - 12-31-2006 09:44 AM

I sure will! Unfortunatly I just spent all my money at HMV buying the Serial Experiments Lain boxset, so it will be a while before I can get it.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ian - 12-31-2006 02:16 PM

It was £6 something if i remember correctly.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Bob Bobson - 12-31-2006 04:33 PM

Really!? thats suprisingly cheap. Though I suppose it is a rather old film. But it costs me about £5 to get to the HMV store, so I only like to go if I have alot of money, since I am incredibly stingy with money and I really hate spending any at all, unless it is on an interest where I go a bit over the top and spend it all rather impulsivly. (btw in words like impulsivly, is there an e after the v, so it would be impulsively? none of them look right to me)


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ian - 12-31-2006 05:02 PM

It's from 1982, yet it doesn't look dated at all Smile

Ian


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - theosoph - 01-02-2007 08:44 PM

I was born in Tokyo but am not really interested in the culture. Those of you who are are just infatuated with the superficial aspects of it such as anime and don't really get the true aspects of it, I'm sorry to say.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Meiloyn - 01-03-2007 02:20 AM

theosoph Wrote:
I was born in Tokyo but am not really interested in the culture. Those of you who are are just infatuated with the superficial aspects of it such as anime and don't really get the true aspects of it, I'm sorry to say.


I don't actually watch much anime. I tend to learn stuff about Japan from old Japanese movies. And Wikipedia.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ian - 01-03-2007 03:22 AM

What like "jigoku" ? :3 lol

I tend to like many aspects of Japanese Culture, Culinary, Historical, Modern..its all packed inside the smooth compact head of mine ;p

Ian


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Bob Bobson - 01-03-2007 11:48 AM

I do like japanese culture apart from anime and so on. I try to learn about it when I can, it allows you to understand what you are watching alot more, plus it is interesting.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ian - 01-03-2007 03:10 PM

There are many historical Anime's anyway, and of course most of the more "realistic" anime is actually set in what i consider to be a (fairly) realistic interpretation of modern day Japan.

Ian


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - ichtms - 01-12-2007 03:40 PM

Books, documentaries & movies are my main sourche of information when it comes to Japan.

If I'm not entirely wrong there's an author called Kenzabore Oe that's japanese. Yukio Mishima is japanese. He and a bunch of people tried to overthrow the government but as they failed he committed sepuko (they usually uses the word harakiri to describe this tradition).
The book about the dooms day sect Aum Shin Rikyo, I have read.
I remember a fragment of a movie called Dodeskaden; a boy playing locomotive. Have you seen any of Akira Kurosawa's films?
I've seen films about the Kobe earth quake in 1995 and the bombings of Hiroshima (august 6, 1945) and Nagasaki (august 9, 1945).
Lost in Translation was supposed to be such a brilliant movie (by Sophia Coppola) but I've failed to see why. It aint bad, though.

The first Toyota car was manufactured in 1936, I think (my dad had Toyota cars for a number of years.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Proud2LuvNAspie - 04-01-2007 10:02 PM

I'm a Jananophile (or should I say Nipponophie) right here! I know lots of things about Japan from its history to its Mythology. Heck, I don't just KNOW Japan, I've BEEN there!

...Okay, enough egotistic bragging. Its a very interesting subject to study indeed.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - nyanchan - 04-04-2007 09:15 AM

theosoph Wrote:
I was born in Tokyo but am not really interested in the culture. Those of you who are are just infatuated with the superficial aspects of it such as anime and don't really get the true aspects of it, I'm sorry to say.


Anime is different to classical Japanese culture, but definitely NOT superficial.

I lived in Japan for over two years and have spent far more time learning the language. I must say I'm more interested in certain aspects of culture than others -- such as language, history, and popular culture, although I am also interested in some of the classical culture and myth.

Unfortunately I do have trouble getting interested in certain other aspects that just don't interest me.

"Nihonzuki"?

The best place I've been in Japan is the Hiroshima Heiwa Kinen Hakubutsukan (Hiroshima Peace Park Museum).


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - aufzusein - 04-04-2007 09:44 AM

Blade Runner is definitely one of my favourite movies, but I did not consider it Japanese, it is based on a Phillip K. Dick novel. But Mishima is definitely a must-read, esp. The Temple of the Golden Pavilion, which features a young monk with severe communication problems due to his stuttering.

Akutagawa's short stories are also beautiful. Interesting, that he also took his own life, though he overdosed on veronal and did not choose the traditional way.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Lauren - 04-04-2007 10:16 AM

Meiloyn Wrote:
If you read the excerpt from Meiloyn's Saga, then you may guess that I have an interest in Japanese culture. Any other Japanophiles around here?


WATASHI WA OTAKU!!! NYAAAA!

(rough and probably inaccurate translation: I am Nerd/enthusiast!!! NYAAAA!)

yea i guess like some Japanese culture...but not all.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Lauren - 04-04-2007 10:23 AM

Bob Bobson Wrote:
Sorry, I meant Yojimbo in the film, I know almost everything about the aeon (it is part of my special interest). I didn't know yojimbo meant bodyguard though, so thanks for telling it me.I also hated how you have to pay him to get him to do anything, but he does have Zantetsuken the most powerful move in the game, capable of felling even Penance in one hit. Depending on how much he likes you he sometimes does stuff for free. I can only get him to use Wakizashi or Kozuka for free though.


Yojimbo uses zanmoto/Zantetsuken free for me...(guess it's my fangirl charm...) but all i got from penance was some stupid sword for auron that had break damage limit (not bad except it had i think only 1 free customise slot nyaa..)

i have a heretic yojimbo figure it's so cool cause i've always liked dark yojimbo from ffX. he was a good source of ribbon armour.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Bob Bobson - 04-04-2007 02:41 PM

Lauren Wrote:
Yojimbo uses zanmoto/Zantetsuken free for me...(guess it's my fangirl charm...) but all i got from penance was some stupid sword for auron that had break damage limit (not bad except it had i think only 1 free customise slot nyaa..)

i have a heretic yojimbo figure it's so cool cause i've always liked dark yojimbo from ffX. he was a good source of ribbon armour.


Oh yeah it is Zanmato in FFX isn't it? You are much better at FFX than me, I can't beat Dark Ifrit on my best file, but I can beat Dark Ixion. I ruined my best save file though, I accidentally threw away an armour with Break HP limit on it that I got when I beat Omega. I have tried to start another great file but no matter how much I fight I can't find a Coerl on the Calm Plains, so I think that file may be cursed.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Andrew - 04-04-2007 09:36 PM

I'm a lot into Japanese History, especially around the period of the 3 Great Unifiers of Japan. (Oda Nobunaga, Hashiba Hideyoshi and Tokogawa Ieyasu)

FIrts got hooked by the Samurai Warriors series of games. Since then i've looked into the past history and lives of many people that appeared in the game. Also The Last Samurai got me interested in Japanese culture and ways during fuedal eras, especially the code of honor followed by Samurais.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Kazuto - 04-05-2007 07:32 AM

i love Japanese culture.. especially manga and anime [and some movies] Smile


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - nyanchan - 04-05-2007 09:40 AM

Lauren Wrote:
WATASHI WA OTAKU!!! NYAAAA!

(rough and probably inaccurate translation: I am Nerd/enthusiast!!! NYAAAA!)


Actually, not a bad translation. (You ever seen "Neko no ongaeshi / the Cat Returns"? Cat characters there all say "nyaaa" instead of "na" or "ne" too.)


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Lauren - 04-06-2007 04:10 PM

nyanchan Wrote:

Lauren Wrote:
WATASHI WA OTAKU!!! NYAAAA!

(rough and probably inaccurate translation: I am Nerd/enthusiast!!! NYAAAA!)


Actually, not a bad translation. (You ever seen "Neko no ongaeshi / the Cat Returns"? Cat characters there all say "nyaaa" instead of "na" or "ne" too.)


wow i thought i invented Nyaaaa!...hmmm perhaps i am channeling the ghost of a japanese cat?


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Lauren - 04-06-2007 04:12 PM

Lauren Wrote:

nyanchan Wrote:

Lauren Wrote:
WATASHI WA OTAKU!!! NYAAAA!

(rough and probably inaccurate translation: I am Nerd/enthusiast!!! NYAAAA!)


Actually, not a bad translation. (You ever seen "Neko no ongaeshi / the Cat Returns"? Cat characters there all say "nyaaa" instead of "na" or "ne" too.)


wow i thought i invented Nyaaaa!...hmmm perhaps i am channeling the ghost of a japanese cat?


oh and i havent seen Neko no ongaeshi if it's anime/manga do you know anywhere i can download it?


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Desolation - 04-08-2007 06:40 AM

Boku no otaku. I am an obsessed fan of anime, manga and all related things.

I also love japanese culture, music and especially food (sushi!). So much that i'm taking a trip there (15days!) this summer. I'm also in my third year japanese language study.

Current fav: Loveless (see my sexy/cute avatar^-^)

I dare say that anime/manga/fiction rules and sustains my life.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Desolation - 04-08-2007 06:42 AM

haven't seen neko no ongaeshi. what's it about? cat people? i love cat people (loveless). i hope it's cat people.... (lol)


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - nyanchan - 04-08-2007 09:43 AM

Lauren Wrote:
oh and i havent seen Neko no ongaeshi if it's anime/manga do you know anywhere i can download it?


...Um. Don't know enough about downloading movies. It's Ghibli, so you could probably get a copy from a video library or store.

It's basically a fantasy spinoff of Whisper of the Heart (which is "Mimi o Sumaseba" in Japanese - the one where the girl sings "Country Roads" in Japanese.) A girl, Haru, discovers that she can talk to cats, and when she saves the life of the cat prince, the king of the cats (who is crazy) gets it into his head that he should send someone to bring Haru to "Neko no Kuni" -- Cat Country -- and there she will marry the prince. But she doesn't want to be married to a cat and Baron and Muta have to help her to avoid it.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - nyanchan - 04-08-2007 09:45 AM

(Watashi wa onna-otaku Big Grin)

PS If you're interested in cat people, check out "Vision of Escaflowne" One of the major characters is a cat.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Athlynne - 04-12-2007 10:07 AM

I have a growing interest in Japanese things...I really like Asian horror movies, and from there I've gotten into some Japanese music - so far, Gackt and Luna Sea.  I love the sound, even if I don't know what the hell is being said. Smile

Also, finally saw "Final Fantasy VII: Last Order", and I think I may be conquering my anime-phobia at last!

<hugs>

Athie


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Kazuto - 04-12-2007 05:34 PM

Desolation Wrote:
Boku no otaku. I am an obsessed fan of anime, manga and all related things.

I also love japanese culture, music and especially food (sushi!). So much that i'm taking a trip there (15days!) this summer. I'm also in my third year japanese language study.

Current fav: Loveless (see my sexy/cute avatar^-^)

I dare say that anime/manga/fiction rules and sustains my life.


LUCKY!! where'd you get to do this?


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Sequoyah - 05-06-2007 11:35 PM

What about old Japanese culture? I just read Chuushingura (a puppet play, I guess its supposed to be the classic version of the Forty-Seven Roonin) and I liked it a lot.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ando - 05-06-2007 11:42 PM

I used to be really into anime and Japanese culture when I was in my teens, but now I just watch East Asian films and read some books by East Asian authors these days.

I don't really like the Japanese as a whole. They're pretty arrogant and mean.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Prufrock - 05-07-2007 02:23 AM

I have always loved Japan! Not just anime and manga but the whole entire culture! The food, the music, the clothing, the books, the art, even the people! I sometimes wish I was born Japanese.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - nyanchan - 05-07-2007 12:34 PM

Dr. Ando Wrote:
I used to be really into anime and Japanese culture when I was in my teens, but now I just watch East Asian films and read some books by East Asian authors these days.

I don't really like the Japanese as a whole. They're pretty arrogant and mean.


Some of the best good friends I ever had were Japanese. (And my aunty and cousin, too.)


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Desolation - 05-20-2007 12:28 AM

Wow 0_0 I'm so late in replying. gomen nasai~

@Kazuto: My high school offers classes so I've been taking them since my sophmore year. I hope to continue in college in the fall too.

@Nyanchan: Escaflowne has a cat chara?! I'd heard of the anime but never got around to checking it out. Thanks!

@Athlynne: I love Gackt! His voice is so expressive. and deep! *sigh* great!


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - theosoph - 05-21-2007 06:36 PM

Dr. Ando Wrote:
I don't really like the Japanese as a whole. They're pretty arrogant and mean.


Many of them are but not all. My mother is from Japan and she can be very mean. When I was a kid and I first got glasses, my mother kept teasing saying that I looked like a cartoon character. She kept calling me "manga chan", and saying "manga mitai nei".  That's one of the reasons I hate anime and manga to this day.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - shadow_dreamer - 05-22-2007 05:19 AM

I lived in Japan for 3 months when I was 21. Extremely fascinating place. I'm not really into anime/manga or the like though. It is just like some kind of technological/imaginative wonderland.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Athlynne - 05-22-2007 11:24 AM

Anyone like Japanese horror movies?  

<hugs>

Athie


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Prufrock - 05-27-2007 02:13 AM

Athlynee, I love your avvy! Where did you get it and how did you get it up there?

Anyways, I haven't seen any Japanese horror movies but I heard they are a million times better than our horror movies!


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ian - 05-27-2007 11:07 AM

shadow_dreamer Wrote:
I lived in Japan for 3 months when I was 21. Extremely fascinating place. I'm not really into anime/manga or the like though. It is just like some kind of technological/imaginative wonderland.



I'm quite fond of the corporatism in that country too :]

Would be interesting to work there, if only for a while. (I hear it gets boring ;p)


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Athlynne - 05-28-2007 11:19 AM

Prufrock,

Thank you! Smile  I don't remember exactly where I got the avatar...just a lot of googling "Aerith", "Aeris", "Aerith avatar", "Aeris avatar"...took a long time.  I like it too, which is good as I don't seem to be able to change it.

Japanese horror movies are very kewl (Korean ones too).  I really liked "Ringu" and "Another Heaven", especially.  Also, I have figured out why Asian horror movies are so scary...they have made crawling terrifying.  Seriously.  Almost any Japanese horror film, at least, features a long-haired woman crawling in a really unnerving manner.  If you can make crawling scary, you can make a great horror movie.

I've also noticed that Asian horror films skip the typical American "at least two teenagers must have sex before death" rule, which is refreshing.

<hugs>

Athie


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Bob Bobson - 05-28-2007 09:00 PM

Athie Wrote:
Anyone like Japanese horror movies?  


I do, I haven't watched too much lately though. I like Korean one's too.
My favourite is 'Tale of Two Sisters' It has quite a complex plot and some really scary moments.
I also liked Ring, I haven't seen Another Heaven yet.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - shadow_dreamer - 05-29-2007 02:41 AM

Ian Wrote:
I'm quite fond of the corporatism in that country too :]


yes - corporatism with lots of imagination is OK ;P

Quote:
Would be interesting to work there, if only for a while. (I hear it gets boring ;p)


Well, you probably know this already but it's VERY traditional. And it might be hard for an Aspie to work there (well, this aspie would find it hard, even if she were a man lol) because of how group-oriented the culture is.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - AngrySwede - 06-04-2007 05:46 AM

My interest in Japan began with japanese tattoos. Check out the works of Horiyoshi III if you don't know what I mean. I plan to cover my body in the japanese full body tattoo style, which is called irezumi.
If ya like tattoos, or have any questions about it, drop me a pm.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Athlynne - 06-04-2007 06:53 AM

Ooh, I loved "A Tale of Two Sisters"!  It's so intense and creepy...with a few "Argh!" moments too, which is a great combination.

<hugs>

Athie


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - nyanchan - 06-04-2007 11:17 AM

Athlynne Wrote:
I've also noticed that Asian horror films skip the typical American "at least two teenagers must have sex before death" rule, which is refreshing.


HEHE. Yeah.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - butchie - 07-20-2007 03:23 PM

ichtms Wrote:
Books, documentaries & movies are my main sourche of information when it comes to Japan.

If I'm not entirely wrong there's an author called Kenzabore Oe that's japanese. Yukio Mishima is japanese. He and a bunch of people tried to overthrow the government but as they failed he committed sepuko (they usually uses the word harakiri to describe this tradition).
The book about the dooms day sect Aum Shin Rikyo, I have read.
I remember a fragment of a movie called Dodeskaden; a boy playing locomotive. Have you seen any of Akira Kurosawa's films?
I've seen films about the Kobe earth quake in 1995 and the bombings of Hiroshima (august 6, 1945) and Nagasaki (august 9, 1945).
Lost in Translation was supposed to be such a brilliant movie (by Sophia Coppola) but I've failed to see why. It aint bad, though.

The first Toyota car was manufactured in 1936, I think (my dad had Toyota cars for a number of years.




RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - butchie - 07-20-2007 03:32 PM

I was the caregiver for my mother and father. I set up respite and meals on wheels and took a vacation to Hawaii. On August 13 I called and called and no one answered. My friend called the police and we started a 3 week search. We found their bodies in Harbison Canyon on Sept 4, 2006.
I think it was, in their minds, an honorable way to die.(sepuko, harakiri??) My mom felt like she was a burden, my dad got accepted in the VA home but she wasn't allowed to go with him. I also lost my dog to this tragedity.
I wanted to know what you call this in Japanese. Does anyone know???? In my mind it wasn't really suicide.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Duck - 07-20-2007 04:57 PM

butchie Wrote:
I was the caregiver for my mother and father. I set up respite and meals on wheels and took a vacation to Hawaii. On August 13 I called and called and no one answered. My friend called the police and we started a 3 week search. We found their bodies in Harbison Canyon on Sept 4, 2006.
I think it was, in their minds, an honorable way to die.(sepuko, harakiri??) My mom felt like she was a burden, my dad got accepted in the VA home but she wasn't allowed to go with him. I also lost my dog to this tragedity.
I wanted to know what you call this in Japanese. Does anyone know???? In my mind it wasn't really suicide.

Either seppuku or hara-kiri is acceptable.Both are terms for ritualistic suicide.

Weird... I got an SQL error when I tried to write the above terms in Japanese kanji rather than romanji.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - theosoph - 07-20-2007 06:32 PM

The Japanese word for suicide is "jisatsu". "Seppuku" or hara-kiri" is not acceptable in this case as it was not done in the ritual manner.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ayreon - 07-20-2007 08:09 PM

Wow is good to know here are so many Japanese culture lovers Smile, yeah it's one of my favorite interests, i wish to live in Japan, i like everything, their Food, Anime, Gardens, Technology, Music, Life Stile,  i also think the Japanese culture have a lot of AS characteristics, Perfectionism, Discipline, Liking for the Technology, (Im not saying the Japanese are aspies, just the culture is like an Eden for AS Wink )


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Duck - 07-20-2007 08:59 PM

Duck Wrote:

butchie Wrote:
I was the caregiver for my mother and father. I set up respite and meals on wheels and took a vacation to Hawaii. On August 13 I called and called and no one answered. My friend called the police and we started a 3 week search. We found their bodies in Harbison Canyon on Sept 4, 2006.
I think it was, in their minds, an honorable way to die.(sepuko, harakiri??) My mom felt like she was a burden, my dad got accepted in the VA home but she wasn't allowed to go with him. I also lost my dog to this tragedity.
I wanted to know what you call this in Japanese. Does anyone know???? In my mind it wasn't really suicide.

Either seppuku or hara-kiri is acceptable.Both are terms for ritualistic suicide.

Weird... I got an SQL error when I tried to write the above terms in Japanese kanji rather than romanji.

Let me add that I'm sorry for your loss.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - acuna_read - 07-21-2007 10:50 AM

I enjoy looking at the Edo period and the art which surrounds this. I have a particular interest in Irezumi, which are Japanese tattoo's, in parrticular I would like to get a full body suit.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - nyanchan - 07-22-2007 10:21 AM

theosoph Wrote:
The Japanese word for suicide is "jisatsu".


"Jisatsu" basically means the same in etymological terms as the word "suicide"

-Satsu / -Cide = killing

Ji- / Sui- = self

Some computers need special programs to accept kanji, or else it just appears as a series of squares -- which is annoying!!!


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Ayreon - 07-23-2007 12:36 AM

nyanchan Wrote:

theosoph Wrote:
The Japanese word for suicide is "jisatsu".


"Jisatsu" basically means the same in etymological terms as the word "suicide"

-Satsu / -Cide = killing

Ji- / Sui- = self

Some computers need special programs to accept kanji, or else it just appears as a series of squares -- which is annoying!!!


You mean a IME? i don't know much about that but maybe is just that some computers have it built-in when you buy it


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - nyanchan - 07-25-2007 08:23 AM

Ayreon Wrote:
You mean a IME? i don't know much about that but maybe is just that some computers have it built-in when you buy it


Not sure. I know they can be downloaded but after my computer broke and I was trying to download one that had succeeded before, and it wouldn't again.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Duck - 07-25-2007 07:34 PM

nyanchan Wrote:

Ayreon Wrote:
You mean a IME? i don't know much about that but maybe is just that some computers have it built-in when you buy it


Not sure. I know they can be downloaded but after my computer broke and I was trying to download one that had succeeded before, and it wouldn't again.

If you run Windows, you can load any available IME if you have the install CD.I have English, Japanese, and Korean on my PC.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - labelsremovedwriter17 - 09-04-2007 09:47 PM

I've been a japanophile since first grade. I've taken 3 years of Japanese, listen j-pop/rock, do origami and sumi-e (watercolors and calligraphy, read japanese novels, and love manga and anime. I also like Japanese mythology, history, medical research, movies, and video games. I want to go to Kyoto, Osaka, Tokyo, Yokohama etc.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Flardox - 10-24-2007 04:22 PM

i have a freind who absolouteley loves anime and manga he's really good at drawing them as well


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - nyanchan - 10-29-2007 08:59 AM

labelsremovedwriter17 Wrote:
...listen j-pop/rock...


What singers do you like?

I like Ayumi Hamazaki -- especially "Dearest",
Hikaru Utada -- especially "Sakura Drops" and that song that became the theme to "Detective Conan" for a while,
Hirai Ken.

I loved Hirai's rendition of "The old Grandfather Clock", translated into Japanese.

Hell, I even like Sakamoto Kyuu

And also have a soundtrack collection of various Ghibli movies, and 35th Anniversary Collection of Lupin III soundtrack, and a One Piece soundtrack, all of which I really like to listen to as well.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - IlluSionS667 - 06-27-2008 04:05 PM

The Japanese are without a doubt one of the most fascinating people still in existence.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - ethereal - 06-27-2008 05:34 PM

I'm very interested in japanese culture, always have been, I'm not interested in anime/manga though, it is more the way of life and philosophy/religion, also I have a fascination for some of the rituals especially the tea ceremony.  I like the architecture, the art, the language, and japanese guys are sooooooo damn gorgeous! Cool  

I signed up twice to learn japanese and both times the course got cancelled Sad

I'm also very interested in China and Malaysia.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - DigiModify - 07-02-2008 12:59 PM

I am fairly interested in Japanese culture. It's interesting and has some intriguing contrasts in comparison to most Western Cultures. A lot of the contrasts are positive (in my opinion) such as more appreciation for art and respect for the elderly.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Luai_lashire - 07-02-2008 05:57 PM

I took Japanese 1 this year- I'm looking for penpals to practice with, if anyone is interested?.....
I learned tons.  初めまして。私はアチナです。十六歳です。アメリカジン す。ドゾオよろしく。
きのは水曜日です。私は本を読んで、イスクリムを食べて およぎました。
Apologies if any of the wrong kanji or kana appear.  My computer program automatically converts any hiragana I write to kanji or katakana most of the time, and sometimes it makes mistakes.  I hope the symbols show up, but if not, here's the romaji version: Hajimemashite.  Watashi wa Achina (I usually spell my name Atina when I write it in katakana, but my computer automatically changes it to Achina) desu.  Juu roku sai desu.  Amerikajin desu.  Dozoo yoroshiku.
Kino wa suiyoobi desu.  Watashi wa hon wo yonde, isu kurimu wo tabete, oyogimashita.
Which should translate, if I did it correctly, to:  Hello.  I'm Athene.  I'm 16.  I'm American.  Please take care of me (traditional Japanese greeting).  Yesterday was Tuesday.  I read a book, ate ice cream, and swam.

So, basically I'm capable of very simple conversations, asking for directions, talking about my day, and asking someone on a date (we had a whole chapter on dating!  Seriously!)
Next year I'm taking Japanese 2; the high school I go to doesn't offer any further courses, so after that I'm going to the University for further lessons.  I expect to be fluent by the time I graduate from college, at which point I intend to go teach English to Japanese high school students for a year to make some quick money.  My sensei says they pay a LOT of money for native english speakers to teach.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - DigiModify - 07-13-2008 02:10 AM

Luai_lashire Wrote:
I took Japanese 1 this year- I'm looking for penpals to practice with, if anyone is interested?.....
I learned tons.  初めまして。私はアチナです。十六歳です。アメリカジ です。ドゾオよろしく。
きのは水曜日です。私は本を読んで、イスクリムを食べて およぎました。
Apologies if any of the wrong kanji or kana appear.  My computer program automatically converts any hiragana I write to kanji or katakana most of the time, and sometimes it makes mistakes.  I hope the symbols show up, but if not, here's the romaji version: Hajimemashite.  Watashi wa Achina (I usually spell my name Atina when I write it in katakana, but my computer automatically changes it to Achina) desu.  Juu roku sai desu.  Amerikajin desu.  Dozoo yoroshiku.
Kino wa suiyoobi desu.  Watashi wa hon wo yonde, isu kurimu wo tabete, oyogimashita.
Which should translate, if I did it correctly, to:  Hello.  I'm Athene.  I'm 16.  I'm American.  Please take care of me (traditional Japanese greeting).  Yesterday was Tuesday.  I read a book, ate ice cream, and swam.

So, basically I'm capable of very simple conversations, asking for directions, talking about my day, and asking someone on a date (we had a whole chapter on dating!  Seriously!)
Next year I'm taking Japanese 2; the high school I go to doesn't offer any further courses, so after that I'm going to the University for further lessons.  I expect to be fluent by the time I graduate from college, at which point I intend to go teach English to Japanese high school students for a year to make some quick money.  My sensei says they pay a LOT of money for native english speakers to teach.


You're lucky. My school system is making major cuts on High School classes. The only languages we'll have this upcoming school year will be Spanish and American Sign Language.

I know a few Japanese words and phrases myself. For example:

Baka
Daijobu
Champuru
Touge


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Luai_lashire - 07-13-2008 02:30 AM

DigiModify Wrote:

You're lucky. My school system is making major cuts on High School classes. The only languages we'll have this upcoming school year will be Spanish and American Sign Language.

I know a few Japanese words and phrases myself. For example:

Baka
Daijobu
Champuru
Touge


Japanese is actually the ONLY language class my school offers- before this year, they didn't offer language classes at all.  They were told they were "too small" to hire a language teacher.  There's only about 120-150 students there.
I'd love to take an ASL class.  Maybe sometime in college......

I know baka and daijobu, but I don't know the other two words.  What do they mean?
I learned a new one recently:  がんばれ (Ganbare).

It's really fun watching movies and things now, knowing more of the language....  I can catch at least one word in most sentences, and sometimes the whole sentence, if it's short.  I was watching the reality show "I survived a Japanese game show", and before each commercial break the host says the same thing- "Minna isshoni!  Majide!"  Majide is the name of the show, and I got so excited, because I understood what he was saying!  "Minna" is "everyone", "isshoni" means "together"- he was asking the audience to say the show's name with him, "Everyone together!"
It's this kind of thing that makes me love learning new languages so much.  Smile  That moment where you realize you can understand something that was unintelligible to you before.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Luai_lashire - 07-13-2008 02:33 AM

Here's an important phrase, Digimodify:  "Oterai wa doko desu ka?"  Where's the bathroom?
Smile  And also "Nihongo wo amari hanashimasen."  I don't speak much Japanese.
In case you ever end up there and have no clue how to speak the language.  Those, I think, are the most handy phrases for a tourist.

Then again, if you're in Harajuku:  "Shashin wo totte mo iidesuka?"  May I take your picture?


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - DigiModify - 07-13-2008 02:55 AM

Luai_lashire Wrote:
Here's an important phrase, Digimodify:  "Oterai wa doko desu ka?"  Where's the bathroom?
Smile  And also "Nihongo wo amari hanashimasen."  I don't speak much Japanese.
In case you ever end up there and have no clue how to speak the language.  Those, I think, are the most handy phrases for a tourist.

Then again, if you're in Harajuku:  "Shashin wo totte mo iidesuka?"  May I take your picture?


I'll keep those in mind.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Rufus - 08-29-2008 02:42 PM

I have been locked into Japan as my main target, when it comes to CULTURE  since  the age of  12.
And I actually took a university degree in  JAPANOLOGY (= I write and understand Japanese )

I `ve been living in Japan for a year -  in Hiratsuka , south of Tokyo.
Although  it can  be QUITE  crowded,   people as a rule  try to avoid touching  each other  in the streets  =   nice  ` touch` ( my opinion )

My crush on Japan,  it`s like  EVERYTHING .
Zen Buddhism,  MOVIES ,  No plays ,   the   `kanji - katakana - hiragana ` conglomerate` , crazy technology  etc.  etc.

AND  lately :
`the  way  the  japanese  have no fear  of  constucting humanoid robots `( mainly because
there`s  no  concept of  `soul` in Buddhism , so Japanese scientists have one  hesitation less to overcome)
It`s  seems  cool to me.
There`s  really  something going on in Japan in this field  
     -    Omoshiroii


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Luai_lashire - 08-30-2008 03:29 AM

Rufus Wrote:
AND  lately :
`the  way  the  japanese  have no fear  of  constucting humanoid robots `( mainly because
there`s  no  concept of  `soul` in Buddhism , so Japanese scientists have one  hesitation less to overcome)
It`s  seems  cool to me.
There`s  really  something going on in Japan in this field  
     -    Omoshiroii

うん、とてもおもしろいいですね。  I've been getting most of my robot-related news from http://www.pinktentacle.com/.  I was especially interested by this one:  http://www.pinktentacle.com/2008/07/robot-sea-bream/  It's so real looking!

http://whatjapanthinks.com/  is also really interesting a lot of the time.  No robots there, though.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - windy - 08-30-2008 06:39 AM

OOOh I can't wait to show this thread to my oldest.  He loves all things japanese. The architecture/art/ the sound and look of the language.  

I also like it, but with him it would be a main focus  (if he had the time).


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Rufus - 08-30-2008 01:32 PM

atypical Wrote:
OOOh I can't wait to show this thread to my oldest.  He loves all things japanese. The architecture/art/ the sound and look of the language.  

Sounds  exactly like  what happened to me, at the point I  discovered
Japan -

- the look of the blank, white  Noh masks , and then hearing a recording  of the ` singing ` of the  actors,
the very SOUND !
+ the japanese characters,  with patterns within them , and   everything written  vertically -
EVERYTHING !

( and I never grew out of  it  )


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Dark Shamshir X - 09-01-2008 05:02 AM

Why haven't I posted here?

Besides, I am a Japanophile, and come with a GREAT respect for the Japanese culture.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Rufus - 09-01-2008 11:03 PM

Quote:
I've been getting most of my robot-related news from http://www.pinktentacle.com/.  I was especially interested by this one:  http://www.pinktentacle.com/2008/07/robot-sea-bream/  It's so real looking!


You know this project ?

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/07/71426


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Luai_lashire - 09-02-2008 01:57 AM

Rufus Wrote:

Quote:
I've been getting most of my robot-related news from http://www.pinktentacle.com/.  I was especially interested by this one:  http://www.pinktentacle.com/2008/07/robot-sea-bream/  It's so real looking!


You know this project ?

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2006/07/71426


No, I hadn't seen that one.  But I did see this one:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcMqdIWNyWo  And here's another video of it:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbFFs4DHWys&feature=related


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Xen - 12-08-2008 01:30 PM

I think Japanese girls are very cute Smile. I'm going to go to Japan.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Xen - 12-31-2008 01:32 PM

And besides that Japan has one of the smallest RFID tags. It seems like Japan is making quantum leaps as far as technology goes. I've read that the fish that many Japanese people eat for their diet might improve intelligence. Not only that, but they've made huge discoveries like neurotrophic plant factors.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - Xen - 12-31-2008 01:33 PM

The RFID tag might be in China. Either way..somewhere far east.


RE: Interest in Japanese culture? - micgrace - 12-31-2008 03:00 PM

Xen Wrote:
And besides that Japan has one of the smallest RFID tags. It seems like Japan is making quantum leaps as far as technology goes. I've read that the fish that many Japanese people eat for their diet might improve intelligence. Not only that, but they've made huge discoveries like neurotrophic plant factors.

There does seem to be a perseverence with technology development that is generally lacking in the west. And the we want it now culture in the west and they are prepared to wait difference.