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Petition Online to Support the Declaration - frognamedfred - 02-11-2006 02:15 AM
Please sign the petition to support AFF's Minority Status endeavors and protect our rights:
http://www.petitiononline.com/AFFDec/petition.html
Also, when protesting, bring a print-out of the signatures to add weight and get people to sign.
- Amy - 02-12-2006 02:21 PM
Frog, have you seen the petition today, you need to provide a full name, they have suspended it.
- frognamedfred - 02-12-2006 09:44 PM
I just saw it. This is really annoying because I have written them several times now with my full name and asked them to supply a different ad on the signatures page. I do understand if they cannot do that, as the ads are chosen by google, but I think that they should at least issue a response and not just disable the petition. :mad: I am still trying to fix this--I wrote them again this morning.
- Amy - 02-12-2006 10:31 PM
Maybe they dont work at the weekend.
Hopefully it will be sorted out soon.
- frognamedfred - 02-14-2006 12:11 AM
It looks like it's back up and running, but they still have not responded to my emails about the offensive advertising. I have a contact number and I will call them later about it.
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - LWiamil - 01-17-2009 05:18 AM
I don't have a clue what this means.
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - tlcoopi7 - 01-17-2009 06:40 AM
I think that it needs to be reworded as "Declaration of Rights of People with Autism Spectrum Disorders," not as "Declaration of People with Autism Spectrum Disorders as a Minoriity Group" for the following reasons:
* To be declared as a minority group in the United Nations, it is based on ethnicity, language, and culture. Being autistic does not even fit that criteria. (post about Navajo Americans and Hispanic Americans as example)
* It is nearly impossible to enforce it (rights of the child declaration and Iran as example)
* Most important thing, do your homework on how the United Nations actually work.
I support the declaration of the rights of people with autism spectrum disorders, NOT to declare people with autism spectrum disorders as a minority group, because being autistic is not an ethnic group at all. My nationality (and citizenship) is American (United States), my ethnicities are German, Irish, Scottish, English, and Swedish (European descent).
In four days, my country is going to have a new president and Obama wanted the American people involve with government. Do you know what the most common question about autism being asked to Obama? If not, here it is: It deals with social services to lead independent lives.
Make autistic lives better by working on local reforms. It would work a lot better than trying to convince an international governmental angeny to pass a declaration that will not get enforced. Trust me, I learned about the United Nations during my political science classes.
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - micgrace - 01-17-2009 07:12 AM
A good start would be proper social services for all in the US. Horror, socialism, we can't have that.
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - spectrum_rights - 01-17-2009 07:16 AM
The autistic culture exists!
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - andrewmckeown - 01-17-2009 07:27 AM
i signed it anyway as it doesnt matter on the wording much its still getting the point accross
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - tlcoopi7 - 01-21-2009 08:46 AM
The autistic culture exists!
Being autisic is not an ethnic group, it does not have a form of an "official" language (Deaf people have official languages, and yes, there is ns more than one form of sign language, which French sign language being considered the Latin of sign languages), but it does have a culture. I was referring that it must have all three to be a minority group in the UN.
I support local reforms and by working locally, one can make the changes needed a lot more than trying to do it internaitionally with hardly any results.
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - Gareth - 01-21-2009 12:00 PM
Small point: social services and socialism are not related to each other, and both are generally very open to abuse, the latter being more or less inherently abuse-prone
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - Gareth - 01-21-2009 12:01 PM
The autistic culture exists!
Ditto - I emphasise the word culture here
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - spectrum_rights - 02-08-2009 01:14 PM
I just wish to point something out - who invented the word "neurotypical" and "aspie"? That's a form of shared language. And sometimes there are different dialects of languages, yet they are still official, and we autistics have our own way of speaking.
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - tlcoopi7 - 09-29-2009 11:26 AM
I just wish to point something out - who invented the word "neurotypical" and "aspie"? That's a form of shared language. And sometimes there are different dialects of languages, yet they are still official, and we autistics have our own way of speaking.
Guess what: The words "Aspie" and "neurodiversity" are not even in the dictionary (Oxford for the British English users; Merriam-Webster for the American English users). "Neurotypical" is in the Oxford dictionary, but not Merriam-Webster. In case you are wondering, I looked up the words in both dictionary websites as well as my hard copy of Merriam-Webster, and only found "neurotypical" in the Oxford dictionary website.
Here in the United States, the term autistic is used by both autistics and non-autistics. The rest are not even used at all.
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - Fnord - 09-29-2009 05:56 PM
On-line petitions are not worth the paper they're printed on.
If those who posted the petition really cared, the site would be better maintained, there would be no offensive advertising, and they would respond to your complaints in a timely and effective manner.
RE: Petition Online to Support the Declaration - tlcoopi7 - 09-30-2009 10:24 PM
If those who posted the petition really cared, the site would be better maintained, there would be no offensive advertising, and they would respond to your complaints in a timely and effective manner.
Especially petitions to the United Nations that will make a declaration on an issue that there will be no chance of being enforced. The UN declarations are a joke because they don't get enforced. If they did, they would be on Iran's *** to stop the child executions because they did sign the "Declaration of the Rights of the Child"