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I can't stand my dad!!! - Thunder Knight - 08-18-2010 03:36 AM

He just bosses people around and is only good at giving orders!!! He was a good dad once but he's been annoying these past few years!!

How do you guys deal with your parents?


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 08-18-2010 04:04 AM

If my dad started barking orders at me, I would bark at him like a dog defiantly. It would either make him laugh and stop or get pissed and stop and walk off angrily.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Genesis - 08-18-2010 04:07 AM

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:
If my dad started barking orders at me, I would bark at him like a dog defiantly. It would either make him laugh and stop or get pissed and stop and walk off angrily.


lol seriously?


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 08-18-2010 04:14 AM

Genesis Wrote:

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:
If my dad started barking orders at me, I would bark at him like a dog defiantly. It would either make him laugh and stop or get pissed and stop and walk off angrily.


lol seriously?


As a former mental ward patient, you have to get colorful to get things to work.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Genesis - 08-18-2010 04:24 AM

^
oh I see....


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Aerodynamite - 08-18-2010 05:23 AM

Thunder Knight Wrote:
He just bosses people around and is only good at giving orders!!! He was a good dad once but he's been annoying these past few years!!

How do you guys deal with your parents?


Talking to people usually helps. He is your dad, after all. Talk to him, or write him a letter. Be calm when you do, think about the words you wanna say carefully. Show him this.

If you done so, don't stop trying. In the end all you can do is try. Don't try or expect him to change, but try and expect him to grow.

"He was a good dad once". How old are you? Maybe something happened in his life that you don't know of that made him this way. People don't just flip because of nothing.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Thunder Knight - 08-18-2010 07:00 AM

Aerodynamite Wrote:

Thunder Knight Wrote:
He just bosses people around and is only good at giving orders!!! He was a good dad once but he's been annoying these past few years!!

How do you guys deal with your parents?


Talking to people usually helps. He is your dad, after all. Talk to him, or write him a letter. Be calm when you do, think about the words you wanna say carefully. Show him this.

If you done so, don't stop trying. In the end all you can do is try. Don't try or expect him to change, but try and expect him to grow.

"He was a good dad once". How old are you? Maybe something happened in his life that you don't know of that made him this way. People don't just flip because of nothing.


I've tried talking to him before and he still doesn't change... writing him a letter doesn't work either because he's blind.

I'm 20. He's always been that way, but he became more demanding than ever back when he lost his sight around 6 years ago.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - nialll - 08-18-2010 02:09 PM

i keep away from my dad. not easy when i'm at my parents' house for the summer holidays (can't afford to live on my own right now). but i have a very good reason to keep my distance. and he hasn't apologised for anything so i don't see why i should be expected to be nice to him, even if i'm never rude to him. maybe someday he'll start having nightmares about me and he'll realise what he's done to me, long term.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Aerodynamite - 08-18-2010 05:18 PM

Thunder Knight Wrote:

Aerodynamite Wrote:

Thunder Knight Wrote:
He just bosses people around and is only good at giving orders!!! He was a good dad once but he's been annoying these past few years!!

How do you guys deal with your parents?


Talking to people usually helps. He is your dad, after all. Talk to him, or write him a letter. Be calm when you do, think about the words you wanna say carefully. Show him this.

If you done so, don't stop trying. In the end all you can do is try. Don't try or expect him to change, but try and expect him to grow.

"He was a good dad once". How old are you? Maybe something happened in his life that you don't know of that made him this way. People don't just flip because of nothing.


I've tried talking to him before and he still doesn't change... writing him a letter doesn't work either because he's blind.

I'm 20. He's always been that way, but he became more demanding than ever back when he lost his sight around 6 years ago.


Losing your sight is not a small deal. I am sure it did scar him for life. I don't know how he lost it, but it could also have affected.

In which aspect is he more demanding? On having you do things for him? or other things? If talking isn't a fix, then I am sure there's other fixes you can find.

Also, does he know brail?


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Bloke - 08-18-2010 05:21 PM

Well I don't really. Haven't seen them for many years. My last contact was my Mother calling me to let me know she is dying and the last contact with my Father was rather physical and he was on the worse end of it.
I don't think either of these points is particularly helpful but you did ask.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 08-18-2010 08:38 PM

My dad yells a lot. He loves to primp in the bathroom. He has this spritzer called Crew that has a strong smell. One time he yelled at me for something I MIGHT do and it upset me. I emptied out most of his Crew hair spray then refilled the rest with peroxide. The smells was exactly the same. Over time after I was back home my mom made a comment about my dad's hair turning red. I had forgotten what I did initially then it hit me. I told my mom what I did and when she told him he started swearing.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Suedehead - 08-18-2010 08:58 PM

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:
My dad yells a lot. He loves to primp in the bathroom. He has this spritzer called Crew that has a strong smell. One time he yelled at me for something I MIGHT do and it upset me. I emptied out most of his Crew hair spray then refilled the rest with peroxide. The smells was exactly the same. Over time after I was back home my mom made a comment about my dad's hair turning red. I had forgotten what I did initially then it hit me. I told my mom what I did and when she told him he started swearing.


I love you.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 08-18-2010 09:09 PM

Your dad is having a hard time coping with being blind. It sucks to have something like that taken away suddenly. Is he able to care for himself.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - piePIEpie - 08-18-2010 09:12 PM

Atleast you have a dad.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 08-18-2010 10:49 PM

Suedehead Wrote:

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:
My dad yells a lot. He loves to primp in the bathroom. He has this spritzer called Crew that has a strong smell. One time he yelled at me for something I MIGHT do and it upset me. I emptied out most of his Crew hair spray then refilled the rest with peroxide. The smells was exactly the same. Over time after I was back home my mom made a comment about my dad's hair turning red. I had forgotten what I did initially then it hit me. I told my mom what I did and when she told him he started swearing.


I love you.


I love you too! *huggles*


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 08-18-2010 11:04 PM

piePIEpie Wrote:
Atleast you have a dad.


You wouldn't say that if yours was physically and mentally abusive. I couldn't eat in the morning too sick. My dad got mad at me a couple of times and picked me up and slammed me on the chair so hard I threw up stomach acid in my mouth and had a tummy ache all morning. I was 4 years old. I never was comfortable with him in the room. I would be so nervous I would knock over my drink only to anger him and have him beat me for it. He also hit me if I cried as if that was going to make me stop saying "don't cry!".


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Genesis - 08-18-2010 11:30 PM

Ouch Sad


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - nialll - 08-19-2010 02:03 AM

i hate living at my parents' house. tonight my parents got home around 11, had been out somewhere and drink was involved. my dad is such a massive dick when he is drunk, he winds my mum up and she takes the bait and soon stuff is being thrown around whilst i'm trying to finish cleaning up the kitchen. everyone suffers when this *** goes on. i wish i could afford to live away from there all the time. unfortunately i'm not with someone well off like my sister whose boyfriend part owns the house they live in with others from their uni.

and all of this having to do jobs around the house to "keep the peace". i have no objection to pulling my weight but it bothers me that apparently i'm doing it to stop my dad from attacking me again. unfortunately i've nowhere to go, no mates to see and no money to do anything with. i hate it here so much. i want out but i'm stuck til september, assuming the letting agency gets off their arse and answers the phone so that loose ends on the room i'm trying to let can be tied.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - mels8780 - 08-19-2010 03:55 AM

Oh yeah I end up not being able to stand him when I go to his place every other weekend too...he usually gets stuff wrong (like lets say he yells because this and that but he has what happened not 100% correct) I will try to tell him but he will tell me to shut up or not to talk back...wtf is that talking back stuff anyways. If I would be called doing anything by most adults it'd be called "making an excuse" even though im just calmly explaining something.. like for example my father is talking about me idk reading all day or something and not going outside and I just want to say that I was outside just yesterday and I havent been reading that much lately but he doesnt like it when I do stuff like that...but I have to say it or I will implode..and just other unfair stuff. sometimes acting kinda immature for an adult

Yeah and a recent thing that happened was that my grandmother said that Id never gotten my hand in the chair to look for my stuff right and I just told her that I looked in the chair and turned it over and everything but my father told me to be quiet! like wtf! so when an adult says I did or didnt do crap I just lay down and get in trouble/lectured? And then when I told my grandma heres the bottle I even found under it (as proof) he gave me the hugest rage eyes....like wtf. and then when he told me to go to the car (and he was right in front of me) I passed the gap inbetween him and the door and he grabbed me saying I had better learn how to say excuse me. I figured he wanted me to just pass him since I was right on him when he said "Go to the car"... and then he said Id better watch my mouth and talking too. Its also annoying when he says me or my sister gave him some look when we didnt or was having an attitude but when I try to explain that I also get into trouble.. I even have to speak for my sister because I cant just let her get talked to for something she didnt do.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - dtx - 08-19-2010 04:06 AM

I wonder if abusive parents are unusually common for us. And what that might mean. Certainly most aspies shouldn't be parents, and maybe this thread is what happens when they are. Or maybe like 98% of everyone has abusive parents but NTs lie to themselves about it.

Your relationship with your parents decides so much about you. When I hear "once you've met one aspie, you've met one aspie" I think well yeah but maybe we are all very very very similar just with different traumas.

My dad once beat the crap out of me because I shook a spoon to dry it and some of the water went near him. He thought it was malicious. He was Lou from Fight Club, I just held my hands behind by back and kept standing back up and laughing at him. Last time I saw him.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - mels8780 - 08-19-2010 04:17 AM

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:

piePIEpie Wrote:
Atleast you have a dad.


You wouldn't say that if yours was physically and mentally abusive. I couldn't eat in the morning too sick. My dad got mad at me a couple of times and picked me up and slammed me on the chair so hard I threw up stomach acid in my mouth and had a tummy ache all morning. I was 4 years old. I never was comfortable with him in the room. I would be so nervous I would knock over my drink only to anger him and have him beat me for it. He also hit me if I cried as if that was going to make me stop saying "don't cry!".


aww :/ thats horrible. My father wasnt really all like that but I remember an incident where he either picked me and kinda threw me down on the floor or at the wall...i think it was closer to the wall though...and he used to give these horrible spankings..more like beatings..even his hand would do. He was strong. He used his hand in the car when I didnt answer a question fast enough (I think it was about something I did that was against the rules). Yeah I dont get that dont cry crap...so now im not allowed to feel about you hitting me hard? my mother told that my sister Oh stop crying and blah blah when she obviously couldnt help it and wouldnt immediately stop anytime soon and even when she was trying to quiet down shed say it again...I think my mom was just mad that she had such a reaction as if she (mom) did something that was bad which she did..something like that anyway.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Thunder Knight - 08-19-2010 04:37 AM

nialll Wrote:
i keep away from my dad. not easy when i'm at my parents' house for the summer holidays (can't afford to live on my own right now). but i have a very good reason to keep my distance. and he hasn't apologised for anything so i don't see why i should be expected to be nice to him, even if i'm never rude to him. maybe someday he'll start having nightmares about me and he'll realise what he's done to me, long term.


Sometimes I wish I could be away from my parents too for summer breaks. The only time I'm actually away from my parents is during the fall and spring because that's when school is in session and I attend a school far from home. Luckily I gotta go back soon so I'll finally be away from my parents again for a while (yesss lol)! I feel really bad for you though. Your dad sounds worse than mine. I don't know much to say but good luck avoiding your dad and hope all goes well for you.


Aerodynamite Wrote:

Losing your sight is not a small deal. I am sure it did scar him for life. I don't know how he lost it, but it could also have affected.

In which aspect is he more demanding? On having you do things for him? or other things? If talking isn't a fix, then I am sure there's other fixes you can find.

Also, does he know brail?


More on having me do things. He has other sons and a daughter there too, but he always come to me first. I know I was the spoiled one, but it'd be nice to have a break from his orders once in a while and just leave me alone. He gives me long lectures about stupid little things too and often repeats himself, which I hate. And no he doesn't know brail.


Bloke Wrote:
Well I don't really. Haven't seen them for many years. My last contact was my Mother calling me to let me know she is dying and the last contact with my Father was rather physical and he was on the worse end of it.
I don't think either of these points is particularly helpful but you did ask.


Not really to be honest, but thanks for sharing anyway. Smile


Duckfetishgirl Wrote:
Your dad is having a hard time coping with being blind. It sucks to have something like that taken away suddenly. Is he able to care for himself.


True... sometimes, but not always.


piePIEpie Wrote:
Atleast you have a dad.


I guess you're right. A lot of people do need a father. While my dad may not be the greatest, I still gotta learn to tolerate it. Did you grow up having one at least?


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Thunder Knight - 08-19-2010 04:56 AM

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:

piePIEpie Wrote:
Atleast you have a dad.


You wouldn't say that if yours was physically and mentally abusive. I couldn't eat in the morning too sick. My dad got mad at me a couple of times and picked me up and slammed me on the chair so hard I threw up stomach acid in my mouth and had a tummy ache all morning. I was 4 years old. I never was comfortable with him in the room. I would be so nervous I would knock over my drink only to anger him and have him beat me for it. He also hit me if I cried as if that was going to make me stop saying "don't cry!".


:'(


dtx Wrote:
I wonder if abusive parents are unusually common for us. And what that might mean. Certainly most aspies shouldn't be parents, and maybe this thread is what happens when they are. Or maybe like 98% of everyone has abusive parents but NTs lie to themselves about it.

Your relationship with your parents decides so much about you. When I hear "once you've met one aspie, you've met one aspie" I think well yeah but maybe we are all very very very similar just with different traumas.

My dad once beat the crap out of me because I shook a spoon to dry it and some of the water went near him. He thought it was malicious. He was Lou from Fight Club, I just held my hands behind by back and kept standing back up and laughing at him. Last time I saw him.


Only saw the beginning of that movie and never saw this Lou guy in it, but damn that terrible... I think Aspies could be parents if they're raised right. NTs can be bad parents too. I guess its just how one is raised and grows up.


mels8780 Wrote:
Oh yeah I end up not being able to stand him when I go to his place every other weekend too...he usually gets stuff wrong (like lets say he yells because this and that but he has what happened not 100% correct) I will try to tell him but he will tell me to shut up or not to talk back...wtf is that talking back stuff anyways. If I would be called doing anything by most adults it'd be called "making an excuse" even though im just calmly explaining something.. like for example my father is talking about me idk reading all day or something and not going outside and I just want to say that I was outside just yesterday and I havent been reading that much lately but he doesnt like it when I do stuff like that...but I have to say it or I will implode..and just other unfair stuff. sometimes acting kinda immature for an adult

Yeah and a recent thing that happened was that my grandmother said that Id never gotten my hand in the chair to look for my stuff right and I just told her that I looked in the chair and turned it over and everything but my father told me to be quiet! like wtf! so when an adult says I did or didnt do crap I just lay down and get in trouble/lectured? And then when I told my grandma heres the bottle I even found under it (as proof) he gave me the hugest rage eyes....like wtf. and then when he told me to go to the car (and he was right in front of me) I passed the gap inbetween him and the door and he grabbed me saying I had better learn how to say excuse me. I figured he wanted me to just pass him since I was right on him when he said "Go to the car"... and then he said Id better watch my mouth and talking too. Its also annoying when he says me or my sister gave him some look when we didnt or was having an attitude but when I try to explain that I also get into trouble.. I even have to speak for my sister because I cant just let her get talked to for something she didnt do.


Damn that's horrible... I hate it when parents are abusive.. mine arent as much as you guys', but it still makes me sad reading about people's abuses. You're a great sister btw. She must be very lucky to have you.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - 142857 - 08-19-2010 08:24 AM

Growing up is hard enough even without having an angry, insane, abusive parent.

Add me to the list of those with an abusive parent. My father spent the first 19 years of my life saying that he was going to make me hate him... and the next 9 years wondering why I hated him and wanted nothing to do with him. He made it too easy for me to hate him, and I have never felt more than a single moment of guilt.

And it used to p*** me off when people said stuff like "at least you have/had a father" or "he is your father so you have to love him/forgive him". These days not so much, I guess if you haven't been through it you can't be expected to understand.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - TheRainGirl - 08-20-2010 01:07 AM

My dad was abusive and generally violent too. He took drugs and stuff and he used to try to burn me and eventually got even worse and tried to kill me. Me and mum knew he hated us, then again he actually hated everyone. He ran away when I was one, leaving me and mum alone and returned randomly over 6 years causing trouble. The encounter I still remember was on my 7th birthday, when he tried to strangle my mum in front of me and my grandparents (who were too old to attempt to stop him).

Then I remember my grandma leaving me alone with him when I was 11.... :/ and I was really not liking that moment. My mum was annoyed when she found out. A few months later we ran into him in town and he was waring a handbag and nail varnish and said he wanted to be female....that was the last time I saw him (thankfully!). What was annoying throughout my childhood was my grandma saying that I should get him birthday cards and stuff for father's day when I never knew his birthday and he never was a father.... :/ all my other relatives knew how he behaved, but she was under the illusion he was fantastic.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - AspieMomma - 09-12-2010 10:33 PM

dtx Wrote:
I wonder if abusive parents are unusually common for us. And what that might mean. Certainly most aspies shouldn't be parents, and maybe this thread is what happens when they are. Or maybe like 98% of everyone has abusive parents but NTs lie to themselves about it.

Your relationship with your parents decides so much about you. When I hear "once you've met one aspie, you've met one aspie" I think well yeah but maybe we are all very very very similar just with different traumas.

My dad once beat the crap out of me because I shook a spoon to dry it and some of the water went near him. He thought it was malicious. He was Lou from Fight Club, I just held my hands behind by back and kept standing back up and laughing at him. Last time I saw him.


I strongly disagree, and I think that this kind of pessimism is what keeps a group of people down.  That's like saying women shouldn't vote because they're silly and airheaded, or that deaf and blind people are only qualified for the most basic jobs, if any.  Its nonsense and its not what brings about neurodiversity acceptance.  

I do think that aspies need to be self aware and know their limitations.  We tend to have problems with our temper (guilty here...) and we have to have aquired the appropriate coping skills before becoming a parent.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - dtx - 09-12-2010 10:38 PM

Quote:
and we have to have aquired the appropriate coping skills before becoming a parent.


That's what I meant. From what I've seen most aspies are underexperienced and would be a danger to children. Most NTs are a danger too, but they don't learn from experience like we do once they're grown up. Most people shouldn't be parents, that's obvious from meeting them.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Flardox - 09-12-2010 10:44 PM

142857 Wrote:
And it used to p*** me off when people said stuff like "at least you have/had a father" or "he is your father so you have to love him/forgive him". These days not so much, I guess if you haven't been through it you can't be expected to understand.


I think some people forget that it takes more than fornication to make a parent.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Kapkao - 09-12-2010 10:49 PM

yuck... just yuck! I get it in my head that there aren't as many monsters out there as I once thought there was, then I read *** like what's in this thread that changes my mind.

aspiemomma Wrote:
I strongly disagree

me too...


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - cynara - 09-12-2010 10:50 PM

dtx Wrote:

Quote:
and we have to have aquired the appropriate coping skills before becoming a parent.


That's what I meant. From what I've seen most aspies are underexperienced and would be a danger to children. Most NTs are a danger too, but they don't learn from experience like we do once they're grown up. Most people shouldn't be parents, that's obvious from meeting them.


I was a single teenage Mum and Aspie, motherhood was daunting for me. But my Mum, who always understood me when others didn't, taught me that children dont conform to the need for order and organisation that I have. I learned to let my son be his own person and do things in his own way. I discovered that my world didn't turn upside down if he didn't want to arrange his toys in size order. It was hard but with support Aspies can be excellent parents. My love of numbers and words meant I had taught him to read and write and do basic arithmetic by the age of 2 1/2. He benefited from my aspiness.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - dtx - 09-12-2010 10:54 PM

Your mum straightened you out. The ones with abusive parents would need experience to straighten them out.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Chamuel - 09-12-2010 11:39 PM

My dad died last year and although that was sad in some ways, it was a relief.

His behaviour made him and us sad.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - RJARRRPCGP - 09-13-2010 03:01 AM

A lot of the mad-at-you stuff sounds like classic "drunk-belligerence".  

Seems to be common in Rutland county, Vermont, at least during the early 1990s.
IIRC, in December, 1992, the husband of the staff I was with, when at her house, kept getting real mad at me!
He would often tell me to shut up and yelled at me.
Then I started getting scared. That was when I was 12.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Kapkao - 09-13-2010 03:30 AM

cynara Wrote:
I discovered that my world didn't turn upside down if he didn't want to arrange his toys in size order.


I wouldn't have protested much if my mother made a rule about organizing my toys on 'likeness'. Thing is -it has to be arranged on basis of color, not size. Nothing irritates me than assorted-color toys.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - zombiegirl2010 - 09-13-2010 06:47 AM

I remember all growing up my dad would always yell at me for "forgetting" something he told me to do, but if I don't focus hard on something(s) that I have to do I will completely forget that I had to do it.  Also, if I'm doing something I'm consumed/obsessing about, and you ask me to do something for you "at some point that day"...lol...more than likely it is NOT going to get done, because I will not remember.

I would get into so much trouble over that crap.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - smokingweapon - 09-25-2010 02:02 PM

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:

piePIEpie Wrote:
Atleast you have a dad.


You wouldn't say that if yours was physically and mentally abusive. I couldn't eat in the morning too sick. My dad got mad at me a couple of times and picked me up and slammed me on the chair so hard I threw up stomach acid in my mouth and had a tummy ache all morning. I was 4 years old. I never was comfortable with him in the room. I would be so nervous I would knock over my drink only to anger him and have him beat me for it. He also hit me if I cried as if that was going to make me stop saying "don't cry!".


MY DAD DID EXACTLY THE SAME!!! I would always be a little scred or unconfortable when i was little and he was around. And if I cried he would start shaking me and yelling to me that i shouldn't cry. Once he lifted me up in the air and threw me against the wall because I was crying.
I remember when i was 15, just before moving out, he shook me and shouted for something i can't remember. Then I pushed him violently against the wall and looked him in the eyes with al my anger before running my way. It felt SO liberating!


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - smokingweapon - 09-25-2010 02:10 PM

dtx Wrote:
I wonder if abusive parents are unusually common for us. And what that might mean. Certainly most aspies shouldn't be parents, and maybe this thread is what happens when they are. Or maybe like 98% of everyone has abusive parents but NTs lie to themselves about it.

Your relationship with your parents decides so much about you. When I hear "once you've met one aspie, you've met one aspie" I think well yeah but maybe we are all very very very similar just with different traumas.

My dad once beat the crap out of me because I shook a spoon to dry it and some of the water went near him. He thought it was malicious. He was Lou from Fight Club, I just held my hands behind by back and kept standing back up and laughing at him. Last time I saw him.


I think there must be nurturing factors affecting your ASD... i mean, maybe it's a predisposition that is manifested when exposed to traumas. Or maybe our social skills are impaired, partly, because of out parents' attitude toward us, after all children look at their parents to know how to act in the real world. And if they are violent, abusive, alcoholic or depressed.. then they are probably too buisy thinking about their own problems than to teach the child how to cope with the world. So Aspie characteristics are aggravated. I have a lot of aspies in the family and i noticed most of them have divorced parents, or very ****** up parents.

Maybe the problem is that the parents that have autistic predispositions that they will pass on to their children, are simply terrible parents..


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Ana54 - 10-03-2010 12:25 AM

Suedehead Wrote:

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:
My dad yells a lot. He loves to primp in the bathroom. He has this spritzer called Crew that has a strong smell. One time he yelled at me for something I MIGHT do and it upset me. I emptied out most of his Crew hair spray then refilled the rest with peroxide. The smells was exactly the same. Over time after I was back home my mom made a comment about my dad's hair turning red. I had forgotten what I did initially then it hit me. I told my mom what I did and when she told him he started swearing.


I love you.


I love both of you.


Anyway, maybe your dad is trying to be a man because sometimes when you get disabled you aren't seen as so independent and manly anymore.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 10-03-2010 01:13 AM

Ana54 Wrote:

Suedehead Wrote:

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:
My dad yells a lot. He loves to primp in the bathroom. He has this spritzer called Crew that has a strong smell. One time he yelled at me for something I MIGHT do and it upset me. I emptied out most of his Crew hair spray then refilled the rest with peroxide. The smells was exactly the same. Over time after I was back home my mom made a comment about my dad's hair turning red. I had forgotten what I did initially then it hit me. I told my mom what I did and when she told him he started swearing.


I love you.


I love both of you.


Anyway, maybe your dad is trying to be a man because sometimes when you get disabled you aren't seen as so independent and manly anymore.


Yay Smile


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 02-19-2011 01:22 AM

My dad has no sense of boundaries. He's like a dog.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Graham Donaghy - 02-19-2011 01:40 AM

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:
My dad has no sense of boundaries. He's like a dog.


Mine was the same. For example he would terrorize my cat by stroking him roughly and without regard. Never mind what he did to me. He was obviously AS yet totally different to me. Maybe if you have a father like that you become acutely aware of boundaries.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 02-19-2011 01:48 AM

My dad made a pass at my mom's sister when she was in the hospital with my dead brother. My aunt never told my mother that. Years later my dad told my mom "your sister won't talk to me. It can't be that I made a pass at her years ago."

Another time after my parents were dvorced my younger cousin was 18 and my dad was attracted to her. He came on to her and was always bugging her and telling her she was sexy. She avoided visiting me because of him. I didn't find out till she made a comment"..well I don't like your dad..." I asked her why and she told me. He said because she was an adult and he wasn't married to my mom itt was ok. He also said "I make no apologies." ****.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Graham Donaghy - 02-19-2011 02:38 AM

You win.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Graham Donaghy - 02-19-2011 02:39 AM

But still, it almost wasn't even stroking my cat, it was more like tousling. You just don't do that.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Ana54 - 03-11-2011 02:59 AM

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:
If my dad started barking orders at me, I would bark at him like a dog defiantly. It would either make him laugh and stop or get pissed and stop and walk off angrily.


Did you ever have to quack like a duck at your shrink? Big Grin


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - black butterfly - 03-11-2011 04:22 AM

when my parents first spilt up i was so anoyed at dad (he was the splitter) i was about 8 then.
now about 7 years later i am alright with  both parents.
i am rather aloof with both my parents they know little about who i am or what i do i guess its just a part of growing up and whatever but i dont really tell them much about my life


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - hop1pop - 03-12-2011 12:48 AM

Drill sargent father of mine i couldnt stand, he is a nice guy but i cant stand him for more than a month. hense why i moved out and am living away with extended family XD


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - micgrace - 03-13-2011 12:11 AM

I wish my father was still around. I was but a teen when he died so I had to fend for myself without support.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - hop1pop - 03-13-2011 01:16 AM

micgrace Wrote:
I wish my father was still around. I was but a teen when he died so I had to fend for myself without support.


that sucks. my sympathies.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Biologymajor91 - 03-13-2011 05:20 AM

Thunder Knight Wrote:
He just bosses people around and is only good at giving orders!!! He was a good dad once but he's been annoying these past few years!!

How do you guys deal with your parents?


I moved out when I was seventeen (I'm 19 now) but I still have contact with my mom. It's different because I do not rely on her for food, money, transportation, education or housing. Our relationship has improvement much since then. She typically treats me like an adult when we talk. I've loaned her money before; I babysit occasionally; sometimes she'll ask to go to lunch or visit my university.

In regards to the difficulties you are experiencing, just keep in mind you will not have to live with your father forever.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - nialll - 03-15-2011 08:29 PM

black butterfly Wrote:
when my parents first spilt up i was so anoyed at dad (he was the splitter) i was about 8 then.
now about 7 years later i am alright with  both parents.
i am rather aloof with both my parents they know little about who i am or what i do i guess its just a part of growing up and whatever but i dont really tell them much about my life


wow.. a lot of kids that age tend to blame themselves for it whether they should or not. interesting how you didn't.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - MOSBORN - 03-15-2011 08:43 PM

I haven't spoken with or seen my father for at least 10 years, by my choice.  He was an abusive man, physically and emotionally.  In my forties, I realized that any contact between us was bad for me and actually made me sick.  It's too bad, but it's simply true that I am much healthier without him connected to my life in any way.

When my own son was about 4 or 5 or some age like that, I remember being aware, while he was sitting on my lap one day, of thinking, "Wow.  I never knew there could be love like this between a father and a son."

Twenty-three years ago, when my first child, my daughter, was about three years old, I came to a moment of my life where I consciously became aware of my heading down the path of parenthood for which my father had been a model, and in an awakened state, I decided not to do that and to go a different way.  My three-year-old precious child was doing something that annoyed me, and in my anger I slapped her.  My slap made her lip bleed.  I was horrified.  In that moment, I knew this was a crossroads in my life.  That was the moment when I knew I was NOT going to be like my father.

Over the years I have been told by several different people that I was and am a good father.  My children and I get along very well, we actually like, love, trust, and respect each other.  I know without a doubt that being a father is the best thing about my whole life.

So no - I don't have anything to do with my father, and that's a good thing.

I know that we are supposed to learn to forgive, and I believe it.  But I don't know how.  I wish I could, but the truth is I have not forgiven my father for what I consider to be "soul murder."  I will never be the man I might have been, I will never accomplish what I would have had the potential to do, because of the abuse, the terror, the name-calling, and all the rest.

I know that everyone suffers, and everyone has a right to try to be happy.  But I have not yet figured out how to forgive my father.  Maybe I never will.  In the meantime, I know that I am better off having no contact with him in the same way that I know I am better off not drinking bleach.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - hop1pop - 03-15-2011 08:48 PM

MOSBORN Wrote:
I haven't spoken with or seen my father for at least 10 years, by my choice.  He was an abusive man, physically and emotionally.  In my forties, I realized that any contact between us was bad for me and actually made me sick.  It's too bad, but it's simply true that I am much healthier without him connected to my life in any way.

When my own son was about 4 or 5 or some age like that, I remember being aware, while he was sitting on my lap one day, of thinking, "Wow.  I never knew there could be love like this between a father and a son."

Twenty-three years ago, when my first child, my daughter, was about three years old, I came to a moment of my life where I consciously became aware of my heading down the path of parenthood for which my father had been a model, and in an awakened state, I decided not to do that and to go a different way.  My three-year-old precious child was doing something that annoyed me, and in my anger I slapped her.  My slap made her lip bleed.  I was horrified.  In that moment, I knew this was a crossroads in my life.  That was the moment when I knew I was NOT going to be like my father.

Over the years I have been told by several different people that I was and am a good father.  My children and I get along very well, we actually like, love, trust, and respect each other.  I know without a doubt that being a father is the best thing about my whole life.

So no - I don't have anything to do with my father, and that's a good thing.

I know that we are supposed to learn to forgive, and I believe it.  But I don't know how.  I wish I could, but the truth is I have not forgiven my father for what I consider to be "soul murder."  I will never be the man I might have been, I will never accomplish what I would have had the potential to do, because of the abuse, the terror, the name-calling, and all the rest.

I know that everyone suffers, and everyone has a right to try to be happy.  But I have not yet figured out how to forgive my father.  Maybe I never will.  In the meantime, I know that I am better off having no contact with him in the same way that I know I am better off not drinking bleach.



I have learned this at a very young age, sometimes forgiveness is about letting the anger inside you go, dosnt mean you have to forgive that individual and start having contact with him again.... it just means that you are able to let the past be the past and to move on, like you have already done thus far.  Just try not to think of the things he has done to you anymore and try to focus that energy being wasted on such memories into being the good father that you are.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 03-15-2011 09:34 PM

nialll Wrote:

black butterfly Wrote:
when my parents first spilt up i was so anoyed at dad (he was the splitter) i was about 8 then.
now about 7 years later i am alright with  both parents.
i am rather aloof with both my parents they know little about who i am or what i do i guess its just a part of growing up and whatever but i dont really tell them much about my life


wow.. a lot of kids that age tend to blame themselves for it whether they should or not. interesting how you didn't.


My mom told me it was my fault my dad left her because I am a brat. She also told me that about her boyfriend who left her. My mom likes to blame others. I hate that about her. She does it to everyone about anything.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - hop1pop - 03-15-2011 10:33 PM

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:

nialll Wrote:

black butterfly Wrote:
when my parents first spilt up i was so anoyed at dad (he was the splitter) i was about 8 then.
now about 7 years later i am alright with  both parents.
i am rather aloof with both my parents they know little about who i am or what i do i guess its just a part of growing up and whatever but i dont really tell them much about my life


wow.. a lot of kids that age tend to blame themselves for it whether they should or not. interesting how you didn't.


My mom told me it was my fault my dad left her because I am a brat. She also told me that about her boyfriend who left her. My mom likes to blame others. I hate that about her. She does it to everyone about anything.



Ouch talk about being stuck between a hard place and a rock.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - 142857 - 03-16-2011 08:30 AM

MOSBORN Wrote:
I haven't spoken with or seen my father for at least 10 years, by my choice.  He was an abusive man, physically and emotionally.  In my forties, I realized that any contact between us was bad for me and actually made me sick.  It's too bad, but it's simply true that I am much healthier without him connected to my life in any way.

When my own son was about 4 or 5 or some age like that, I remember being aware, while he was sitting on my lap one day, of thinking, "Wow.  I never knew there could be love like this between a father and a son."

Twenty-three years ago, when my first child, my daughter, was about three years old, I came to a moment of my life where I consciously became aware of my heading down the path of parenthood for which my father had been a model, and in an awakened state, I decided not to do that and to go a different way.  My three-year-old precious child was doing something that annoyed me, and in my anger I slapped her.  My slap made her lip bleed.  I was horrified.  In that moment, I knew this was a crossroads in my life.  That was the moment when I knew I was NOT going to be like my father.

Over the years I have been told by several different people that I was and am a good father.  My children and I get along very well, we actually like, love, trust, and respect each other.  I know without a doubt that being a father is the best thing about my whole life.

So no - I don't have anything to do with my father, and that's a good thing.

I know that we are supposed to learn to forgive, and I believe it.  But I don't know how.  I wish I could, but the truth is I have not forgiven my father for what I consider to be "soul murder."  I will never be the man I might have been, I will never accomplish what I would have had the potential to do, because of the abuse, the terror, the name-calling, and all the rest.

I know that everyone suffers, and everyone has a right to try to be happy.  But I have not yet figured out how to forgive my father.  Maybe I never will.  In the meantime, I know that I am better off having no contact with him in the same way that I know I am better off not drinking bleach.


Hi Mosborn, good story. I don't believe that children are under any obligation whatsoever to forgive abusive parents. Abusive parents who are shunned and hated by their children simply reap what they sow.

My father died when I was 28 years old. I despised him and never forgave him while he was alive. If he were alive today, 18 years later, I would despise him even more. Being a father myself now, the way he treated me and the rest of my family disgusts me and baffles me more than ever.

I was 40 years old before I became a father. It wasn't exactly a planned thing, and I really believed that I wouldn't be capable of loving my son. Thankfully I was wrong about that. It is his birthday today and it breaks my heart that I'm here in Sydney looking for a job and not there to share the day with him.

I don't know what was wrong with my father. Sociopath seems to be the closest fit by far. He also showed signs of bipolar disorder and he might even have been a really nasty aspie. It doesn't matter at all to me what made him the way he was and how much or how little control he had over his own behaviour. I know how much it would hurt me every moment of every day if my kids grew up to hate me, and my father must have felt at least a little of that pain.

Like yourself, I know that I will never be the man that I might have been if I had grown up in a less abusive environment. I was in my mid 30s before I was even remotely functional. My 2 brothers and 1 sister that I grew up with - life has passed them by, they have all suffered serious depression and as dysfunctional as much of my life has been... I'm the poster boy for "functional" in my family. They are all smarter than me, ridiculously smart.

When my father was alive I sometimes had well-meaning twits trying to tell me that I HAD to forgive my father, like it was my duty or something. I used to say that I had no problem with forgiving him for the way he treated me, but that I could never forgive him for the way that he treated my mother and my siblings - all the people in my life that I really cared about. Nobody really had an answer for that one.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - - 03-17-2011 09:36 PM

Disclosure; I have removed two posts from this thread.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 03-18-2011 04:42 AM

Ana54 Wrote:

Duckfetishgirl Wrote:
If my dad started barking orders at me, I would bark at him like a dog defiantly. It would either make him laugh and stop or get pissed and stop and walk off angrily.


Did you ever have to quack like a duck at your shrink? Big Grin


I would if I thought they were wrong about something.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 04-03-2011 07:11 PM

My father told my stepmother when he first met her I was schizophrenic. That was a very old diagnoses when I was 13. The fact he said that shows how little of interest I am to him.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Ana54 - 04-04-2011 08:02 PM

That's awful! Did he also tell her you were bipolar or AS or had depression?


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 05-05-2011 11:43 PM

My dad took me to a female friend's house with her family. Afterward to told me: "Don't tell mom or I'll spank you." My dad loves the company of women. When my parents got separated, he told my mom he was going to sleep with that woman.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - shrineyguard - 05-06-2011 12:19 AM

Thats terrible! I've also had issues with my father. Mainly due to verbal abuse as a child, he used alot of name-calling and used to yell at me alot as he was very short-tempered. Now that I am older and since my parent's sepparated we have gotten along better; however, he tends to care more about his job and his money than his family sometimes. He also tends to boss me arround and tell me to do things for him without asking me what my schedule is, which can be very frustrating.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - DadOfAspie - 05-16-2011 10:32 PM

I certainly know how you all feel.  I am angry and upset with my parents and my brother right now too.  I am not on the spectrum but I am certain my brother and mother are since I have a son on the spectrum.

I am not forgiving your fathers, nor am I telling you what to do, but I would like to make some suggestions that might help.  Fathers play a role in life, just like the President or Prime Minister does.  A father needs to set standards in his household and his family (although some don't or set very bad ones).  If your father gets upset with you for your behaviours (i.e. swearing, phsyical violence, inappropriate language), please don't hate him for that.  He is actually trying to help you (he wants you to succeed in society so that you enjoy your life).

If you get mad at him, no problem, that is normal.  But over time, try to find a way to forgive him and if you have done something that got him all worked up in the first place, tell him you are sorry.  If he loves you (most do),  he will forgive you and probably tell you he is sorry for doing what he did.  BOOM, problem solved!

I deal with this stuff every day of my life.  It's not fun, but I'm sure it wasn't fun to be on Apollo 13 either.  Just deal with it day by day and try to find a solution that will make you and everyone around you happier.

If I wasn't an atheist I would say "God bless you".  But as an Atheist, let me just say "Aliens bless you!".


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - Duckfetishgirl - 05-21-2011 10:24 PM

When I was a child and I was playing and having fun, I'd hear my dad's voice booming in my head saying: "NO!". It made me jump even though he wasn't really there saying it. It happened a few times. I could never feel at ease with my dad around. He would spank me if I spilled a drink. I spilled it because he was there making me nervous. Spanking was the answer for my dad.


RE: I can't stand my dad!!! - alternateperception - 08-20-2011 07:13 AM

Hi Neill,

I am sorry for the frustartion you are currently experiencing. I sympathize with you.
These are only my opinions based on my own experiences. I could be completely and totally wrong here.
It sounds like your dad is experiencing a lot of frustration which he is inappropriately taking out on you. Does he have any service providers? Maybe he has developed a pattern of asking you to do thigns because he knows you will do them. Most of this seems to be from a lack of independence. I hope things get better for you and that you are back in uni soon.
Has he gone through a rehabilitation program? If my questions are too personal, please feel free to ignore them. You should not be treated this way.