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Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-03-2009 07:15 AM In my area in Australia, our people STRONGLY believe in cultural diversity. But, at school, I am everyone's victim. They never call Africans 'n*****s' or Chinese people 'c**** - c****s' yet they call aspies 'spazzers' and 'mentalists' and so on. My school (I'm still at school!) is full of people of many religious faiths (but I'm atheist) and they learn to accept each other. They've learnt about cultural/religious diversity, but they don't pay ANY attention to the neurodiversity campaign I just set. What's wrong with them? If they can accept all these things, why can't they accept neurodiversity? RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-03-2009 07:16 AM Correction: "I just set" should be "I just began" and remember, this is Australia, so you may be thinking differently. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Alison - 01-03-2009 11:02 AM spectrum_rights Wrote: If they can accept all these things, why can't they accept neurodiversity?
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - micgrace - 01-03-2009 02:14 PM spectrum_rights Wrote: In my area in Australia, our people STRONGLY believe in cultural diversity. But, at school, I am everyone's victim. They never call Africans 'n*****s' or Chinese people 'c**** - c****s' yet they call aspies 'spazzers' and 'mentalists' and so on.
My school (I'm still at school!) is full of people of many religious faiths (but I'm atheist) and they learn to accept each other. They've learnt about cultural/religious diversity, but they don't pay ANY attention to the neurodiversity campaign I just set. What's wrong with them? If they can accept all these things, why can't they accept neurodiversity?
Thats a good point. Its illegal to discriminate against others based on race, religious beliefs etc but it certainly isn't if one is neuro atypical. (aspies/auties). Its one of the last areas of discrimination remaining and they take full advantage of the fact.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - ThomasW - 01-03-2009 07:30 PM My guess is it's one of those things people will never, ever understand. I work at a place where it's just people like me - but I live in a smaller town where I also went to school and it's exactly the same as you told me. There is so much ignorance and intolerance over for people like me/us... At least in my situation. Lately I've begun to ignore it completely, on the contrary I've also gotten older and more open and social since then; so I don't know how much it counts now. But I can follow you completely. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-03-2009 10:21 PM I've just sent a letter to the Herald-Sun about it. I wonder if they will publish it? RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-03-2009 10:25 PM It's hard to believe that the law can accept cultural diversity, but they cannot accept neurodiversity. I've sent letters to the Herald-Sun for many weeks now, waiting for my letters to be published. None of them have. I'm only 12! I need another Aussie to do it for me. But can I rely on them? It's a very hard choice to make. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-03-2009 10:26 PM spectrum_rights Wrote: They never call Africans 'n*****s' or Chinese people 'c**** - c****s' yet they call aspies 'spazzers' and 'mentalists' and so on.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Gareth - 01-03-2009 10:39 PM micgrace Wrote: spectrum_rights Wrote: In my area in Australia, our people STRONGLY believe in cultural diversity. But, at school, I am everyone's victim. They never call Africans 'n*****s' or Chinese people 'c**** - c****s' yet they call aspies 'spazzers' and 'mentalists' and so on.
My school (I'm still at school!) is full of people of many religious faiths (but I'm atheist) and they learn to accept each other. They've learnt about cultural/religious diversity, but they don't pay ANY attention to the neurodiversity campaign I just set. What's wrong with them? If they can accept all these things, why can't they accept neurodiversity? Thats a good point. Its illegal to discriminate against others based on race, religious beliefs etc but it certainly isn't if one is neuro atypical. (aspies/auties). Its one of the last areas of discrimination remaining and they take full advantage of the fact.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-03-2009 10:42 PM That's the purpose of this thread! RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Chamuel - 01-03-2009 10:57 PM Where I live Asian people have to put up with racism, racism against Asians is pretty much endemic throughout society. People seem to know it is not appropriate to be openly racist towards people of darker skin (generally) but the racism against Asians needs addressing. It helps weak and shallow people to feel better about themselves if they have someone they can denigrate or bully. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-03-2009 11:02 PM I live in an Australian citywhere over 200 languages are spoken, and they learn to accept each other. I can be a very strange person sometimes: * I was born in Australia. * I never left Australia. * My parents are Vietnamese/Chinese. * I grew up in an Asian community where nobody is discriminated. * I am an aspie. * Everyone else at school is neurotypical. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-03-2009 11:03 PM Correction: "* I grew up in an Asian community where nobody is discriminated." I'm being discriminated right now! RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-04-2009 02:59 PM I also remember being bullied by two public transport officers. I just dropped my Metcard, and I said, "Oops, I'm so dumb," and they muttered "You are dumb." Right in front of the public. And we had a big argument, and I was just starting to enjoy it when Gran just told me to ignore them. How could I ignore them? Gareth said "Hence why we need to be declared a minority group." He's right. In Australia, we should be declared a minority group. Defamed in public! I'm so mad! And that's not the end of the defamation I get. To say something like that is called slander, but now that it's public, it's called libel. I want to send a petition to the Victorian Parliament about all times I was defamed. What I have done: * Send hundreds of letters to the Herald-Sun. FAILED. * Pass a letter around the neighbourhood. FAILED because Dad didn't allow me to. This is what the letter said. * Send a petition to the Victorian Parliament with 50+ signatures on it. IN PROGRESS. * Put an advertisement on YouTube. IN PROGRESS. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-04-2009 03:23 PM All talk about defamation at school will now be in this thread: http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=15060 RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-05-2009 06:14 AM My grandmother met a friend. I talked to her and monologued about the autism rights movement and she wouldn't listen to me no matter how much I shouted "Would people ever listen to me!?" I realise I need to do something more serious now to promote the autism rights movement in Australia. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-05-2009 06:40 AM If you're reading this, watch this space. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Tigger_the_Wing - 01-05-2009 07:05 AM Alison Wrote: spectrum_rights Wrote: If they can accept all these things, why can't they accept neurodiversity?
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Bario - 01-05-2009 08:56 AM As far as I'm concerned Aspie is a culture... and if they can't accept it then they're not truly cultural diverse. I guess the main reason they won't yet accept it is because they cannot SEE it, unlike the colour of someone's skin. Also, the racial issue has been a HUGE thing worldwide for many years, so everyone is very conscious of it. Aspies are still relatively unheard of compared to the Racial issue. Things will hopefully get better in the future as peoples understanding improves with time. I wish you the best of luck with your campaign. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-05-2009 12:27 PM I might have to disobey my Dad's orders and create the ad on YouTube. Wasn't joining and supporting the autism rights movement one of my greatest ambitions? I must be dedicated to my job, and I might have to disobey my Dad just to do so! RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-05-2009 12:28 PM Tigger_the_Wing Wrote: I immediately thought of an appropriate 'Neuro-Diversity' slogan: "The same on the outside, but different on the inside".
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-05-2009 12:31 PM Bario Wrote: As far as I'm concerned Aspie is a culture... and if they can't accept it then they're not truly cultural diverse. I guess the main reason they won't yet accept it is because they cannot SEE it, unlike the colour of someone's skin. Also, the racial issue has been a HUGE thing worldwide for many years, so everyone is very conscious of it. Aspies are still relatively unheard of compared to the Racial issue.
Bario Wrote: Things will hopefully get better in the future as peoples understanding improves with time. I wish you the best of luck with your campaign.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Bario - 01-05-2009 12:38 PM That is a great slogan from Tigger. Yes a 'shame on you' approach I think would definitely be effective And I think perhaps you should disobey you dad.. sometimes you just have to do what you have to. You can't let yourself be controlled by someone against your will. I've disobeyed my dad before when he tries to stop me from being who I want to be for no good reason other than his own selfishness, and aside from being sent on a guilt trip by him, I've never regretted it RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Alison - 01-05-2009 01:19 PM How's this for a slogan: "AutismSpeaks for Itself". Alison RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - violet_yoshi - 01-05-2009 02:06 PM They also have a problem accepting fat people. They're not as accepting as they like to claim they are to the media. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-05-2009 10:51 PM I'd just like to take the time to tell you that I barely watch TV (once a week). I'm comparing it to cultural diversity for now. They actually do acceptfat people. You can compare the-bully-at-school-who-everyone-seems-to-like-except-me Zac, with Dudley in the Harry Potter series. Fortunately, he's not my cousin! RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-05-2009 10:53 PM I think I need to get a break from working for the autism rights movement for just three days - my parents are getting stressed out because of it! But only three days. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Planet*Louise - 01-06-2009 12:19 AM Tigger_the_Wing Wrote: Alison Wrote: spectrum_rights Wrote: If they can accept all these things, why can't they accept neurodiversity?
te 'Neuro-Diversity' slogan: "The same on the outside, but different on the inside".
Bario Wrote: As far as I'm concerned Aspie is a culture...
spectrum_rights Wrote: I'd just like to take the time to tell you that I barely watch TV (once a week). I'm comparing it to cultural diversity for now. They actually do acceptfat people.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Jannine Ambitious/Original - 01-06-2009 02:33 AM spectrum_rights Wrote: In my area in Australia, our people STRONGLY believe in cultural diversity. But, at school, I am everyone's victim. They never call Africans 'n*****s' or Chinese people 'c**** - c****s' yet they call aspies 'spazzers' and 'mentalists' and so on.
My school (I'm still at school!) is full of people of many religious faiths (but I'm atheist) and they learn to accept each other. They've learnt about cultural/religious diversity, but they don't pay ANY attention to the neurodiversity campaign I just set. What's wrong with them? If they can accept all these things, why can't they accept neurodiversity?
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Tigger_the_Wing - 01-06-2009 03:37 AM spectrum_rights Wrote: Tigger_the_Wing Wrote: I immediately thought of an appropriate 'Neuro-Diversity' slogan: "The same on the outside, but different on the inside".
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-07-2009 12:35 AM Quote: When was the last time you saw a fat person fall in love in a film or on TV, without his or her weight being made into an issue?
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-07-2009 12:39 AM Jannine Ambitious/Original Wrote: I was called: 'disabled', 'mad', 'crazy', 'spaz', and some Black children called me 'White' (I'm Black). It was horrible.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Alael - 01-07-2009 12:45 AM spectrum_rights Wrote: They've learnt about cultural/religious diversity, but they don't pay ANY attention to the neurodiversity campaign I just set.
What's wrong with them? If they can accept all these things, why can't they accept neurodiversity?
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - micgrace - 01-07-2009 12:45 AM Should try being a research chemist. That keeps one excluded. Like when someone asks "what do you do?" "Chemist" "So what pharmacy do you work at?" Like who can you talk to about your work? The sciences get very short change here and those who have a talent for them wind up bing the butt of jokes at school and remorsely teased and bullied about it. I was hence why it took me 20 plus years to return to them. One does need to have a different way of looking at things to be any good in research. One day those with different neurologies may be prized for their differences rather than put down and ridiculed. Roll on minority group recognition. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Alael - 01-07-2009 12:58 AM micgrace Wrote: "what do you do?" "Chemist" "So what pharmacy do you work at?"
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-07-2009 04:39 AM Dad forbids me to start the campaign, but I'm breaking his rules. He thinks I'm obsessed with it. But I'm not. I'm serious. And we all are. I'm going to flood the Herald-Sun with letters. I want to be heard here! RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - violet_yoshi - 01-07-2009 08:15 AM spectrum_rights Wrote: Quote: When was the last time you saw a fat person fall in love in a film or on TV, without his or her weight being made into an issue?
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Tigger_the_Wing - 01-07-2009 09:26 AM Anyway, Australia only thinks it has respect for cultural diversity. It is sickening the number of times that I have been in conversation with white people who think that, as I am white, it is safe to assume that I am as racist as them. They then spout hateful rubbish expecting me to agree with them. Which I don't. They then react as if I have tricked them into saying such things...
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Marcia - 01-07-2009 02:02 PM Ten years ago I spent 5 weeks in Australia, visiting Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra plus various places in between. Coming from Scotland, I was struck by how very conservative and yes...casually racist the Aussies were. Obviously, I'm speaking generally here, but the pervasive atmosphere for some reason made me think of 1950s Britain (which I never knew as I was born in the '60s). I struggled with the fact that in a country in which white people had only lived for a couple of hundred years, there should be any concerns about or bias against "immigrants". Australia is full of immigrants - they're the ones who've been running the show for 200 years. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Alison - 01-07-2009 10:20 PM Marcia Wrote: Ten years ago I spent 5 weeks in Australia, visiting Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra plus various places in between.
Coming from Scotland, I was struck by how very conservative and yes...casually racist the Aussies were. Obviously, I'm speaking generally here, but the pervasive atmosphere for some reason made me think of 1950s Britain (which I never knew as I was born in the '60s). I struggled with the fact that in a country in which white people had only lived for a couple of hundred years, there should be any concerns about or bias against "immigrants". Australia is full of immigrants - they're the ones who've been running the show for 200 years.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Marcia - 01-07-2009 10:36 PM Ok, point taken. I didn't mean any offence and I didn't mean that all Aussies had those attitudes, although I didn't make that clear in my post. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - violet_yoshi - 01-08-2009 09:03 AM Alison Wrote: Marcia Wrote: Ten years ago I spent 5 weeks in Australia, visiting Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra plus various places in between.
Coming from Scotland, I was struck by how very conservative and yes...casually racist the Aussies were. Obviously, I'm speaking generally here, but the pervasive atmosphere for some reason made me think of 1950s Britain (which I never knew as I was born in the '60s). I struggled with the fact that in a country in which white people had only lived for a couple of hundred years, there should be any concerns about or bias against "immigrants". Australia is full of immigrants - they're the ones who've been running the show for 200 years.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-08-2009 11:47 PM Alael Wrote: Good for you, on starting a campaign for the recognition of neurodiversity!
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-08-2009 11:49 PM Here's the link to the forum: http://www.aspiesforfreedom.com/showthread.php?tid=15091&pid=257407#pid257407 RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-08-2009 11:50 PM Marcia Wrote: Ten years ago I spent 5 weeks in Australia, visiting Brisbane, Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra plus various places in between.
Coming from Scotland, I was struck by how very conservative and yes...casually racist the Aussies were. Obviously, I'm speaking generally here, but the pervasive atmosphere for some reason made me think of 1950s Britain (which I never knew as I was born in the '60s). I struggled with the fact that in a country in which white people had only lived for a couple of hundred years, there should be any concerns about or bias against "immigrants". Australia is full of immigrants - they're the ones who've been running the show for 200 years.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-08-2009 11:52 PM Tigger_the_Wing Wrote: Anyway, Australia only thinks it has respect for cultural diversity. It is sickening the number of times that I have been in conversation with white people who think that, as I am white, it is safe to assume that I am as racist as them. They then spout hateful rubbish expecting me to agree with them. Which I don't. They then react as if I have tricked them into saying such things...
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RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Tigger_the_Wing - 01-09-2009 02:30 AM If you read what I wrote carefully, spectrum_rights, you'll see that the only reason people display their racism to me is because I am white so they think I'm racist too. I'm NOT racist (with my family alone that would be stupid) so almost all my friends in Adelaide weren't white because of the White Australians' casual racism. The racists were, for the most part, too polite to show their racism directly to non-white people; but I copped some too whenever it was realised that I'm white, but not Australian (as did my kids; most of their friends there were immigrants too). Since I've come to Canberra the racism is even more apparent. The capital cities of most countries is where you'd expect to find the most racial diversity but Canberra is almost exclusively white. A census officer called at the door shortly before Christmas; he was trying to find Aboriginal/Torres Straight Islanders in the area but most of the houses in my street had no-one at home. I told him that everyone in the street is white immigrant or European-Australian, and I'd only seen one Australian family in the whole district and gestured vaguely in their direction; he said that must be the family he'd found already. Sad. Given that people have such difficulty with others who only look different, is it any wonder that those of us who are fundementally different have a hard time being accepted for who we are, for not fitting in with them? RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Tigger_the_Wing - 01-09-2009 02:34 AM spectrum_rights Wrote: Tigger_the_Wing Wrote: Anyway, Australia only thinks it has respect for cultural diversity. It is sickening the number of times that I have been in conversation with white people who think that, as I am white, it is safe to assume that I am as racist as them. They then spout hateful rubbish expecting me to agree with them. Which I don't. They then react as if I have tricked them into saying such things...
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RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-11-2009 12:07 AM I'm not talking about the actual respect here about cultural diversity, I'm talking about neurodiversity in this topic. What can minors in Australia do for the autism rights movement when their own father is a curebie and is constantly watching them? RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-11-2009 12:08 AM Actually, I'm racist too... I absolutely hated the country where I come from ever since my dad tortured me with Chinese homework. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - LWiamil - 01-11-2009 12:42 AM Oh yeah... my dad tortures me with Chinese homework too, saying it's for my own good. Why? I'm not going to China. I'm sticking with Oz. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Alison - 01-11-2009 01:35 AM Tigger_the_Wing Wrote: Since I've come to Canberra the racism is even more apparent. The capital cities of most countries is where you'd expect to find the most racial diversity but Canberra is almost exclusively white.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - micgrace - 01-11-2009 01:49 AM Mine is a mixed marriage. My wife is of Italian descent. I am not. So we moved. End of culture problems. Except atitudes are a lot more relaxed nowdays as compared to when I first got married. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-13-2009 09:45 AM Tigger_the_Wing Wrote: It is the respect for cultural diversity that is missing, not the actual cultural diversity (except in Canberra). There were children from 153 different cultures in my children's primary school in Adelaide, but precious little respect.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Tigger_the_Wing - 01-14-2009 09:31 AM Alison Wrote: Tigger_the_Wing Wrote: Since I've come to Canberra the racism is even more apparent. The capital cities of most countries is where you'd expect to find the most racial diversity but Canberra is almost exclusively white.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-15-2009 12:36 PM My article on neurodiversity got published! http://waverley-leader.whereilive.com.au/your-news/story/time-to-support-neurodiversity/ RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Alison - 01-15-2009 01:16 PM spectrum_rights Wrote: My article on neurodiversity got published!
http://waverley-leader.whereilive.com.au/your-news/story/time-to-support-neurodiversity/
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-15-2009 01:57 PM It also got published at the Springvale/Dandenong Leader webpage. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-15-2009 02:17 PM I want to publish an article about education for aspies too. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - micgrace - 01-15-2009 11:43 PM Tigger_the_Wing Wrote: It is the respect for cultural diversity that is missing, not the actual cultural diversity (except in Canberra). There were children from 153 different cultures in my children's primary school in Adelaide, but precious little respect.
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-16-2009 12:11 AM You're right, but this isn't about school, this is about the community. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - LWiamil - 01-16-2009 03:06 AM THey can, if they just know about it! RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - LWiamil - 01-16-2009 03:08 AM That's one problem with neurotypicals! RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - tenaciouscj - 01-16-2009 03:29 PM micgrace Wrote: Tigger_the_Wing Wrote: It is the respect for cultural diversity that is missing, not the actual cultural diversity (except in Canberra). There were children from 153 different cultures in my children's primary school in Adelaide, but precious little respect.
Depends how good the school is (and most importantly, how decent the head teacher is)
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - violet_yoshi - 01-17-2009 12:54 AM spectrum_rights Wrote: My article on neurodiversity got published!
http://waverley-leader.whereilive.com.au/your-news/story/time-to-support-neurodiversity/
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - micgrace - 01-17-2009 01:00 AM Good to see it published. Neurodiversity, its the spice of human existence. Its what has made our culture, inventions and everything else. It is to be celebrated and recognized. Viva la difference. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-17-2009 01:59 AM Too bad there are only a few reporters out there - all AFF members should try writing an article sometime. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-17-2009 02:01 AM Please comment on my article - it's important to have other people to agree with you, then they'll most likely read it. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - LWiamil - 01-17-2009 04:56 AM If they call you a spazzer, then ask them what it means, of course! RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-17-2009 07:14 AM You're right. SPAZZER means SPASTIC, and SPASTIC means something to do with spasms. They'll become embarrassed either way. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - micgrace - 01-17-2009 07:23 AM The term spastic (spaz, spazzo, spazzer) here in OZ is a derogratory term linked to muscular dsytrophy and other muscular degenerative diseases or accidents that result in the loss of use or control of ones muscles and is carried onto those who are just a little different. Nothing to do with spasms. It is considered a very low insult. They don't really know what they say. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-17-2009 08:29 AM Sorry, the dictionary must be out-of-date or something. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-17-2009 08:30 AM Actually, ALL my books are out of date! RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Alison - 01-17-2009 10:15 AM spectrum_rights Wrote: Actually, ALL my books are out of date!
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-19-2009 12:23 AM Back to the subject: How can we change our reputation in Australia? RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - LWiamil - 01-19-2009 12:26 AM By educating children about autism at a early age. They will most likely believe anyone! RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Alison - 01-19-2009 01:32 AM LWiamil Wrote: By educating children about autism at a early age.
They will most likely believe anyone!
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Marcia - 01-19-2009 01:34 AM Alison Wrote: By not hiding who we are. We need to let people know that Autism doesn *not* equal the stereotypical "sitting-in-a-corner-rocking-and-drooling" version that so many organisations portray. Most NTs react with a great deal of surprise when I tell them of my dx. If they get to know us and then find out that we are AS they can realise that we're just another facet of the great neurodiversity that makes up the human species. Alison
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-19-2009 10:56 PM That's right. But consider the following facts: * Many Aussies just don't know what autism means. * Many of them have the 'autism is a disease' view if they do know about it. * Many autistics don't know they are autistic, because their parents hide it from them. * When autistics are told, they refuse to believe it. (I used to refuse to believe it, but I now I know my true identity) * My article in The Leader isn't getting much attention. * They don't bother listening to some stupid kid that stims. * Lots of people are obsessed with cricket / football there. I believe that autistics have the right to: * be treated as a human being * be respected as a human being * grow to our potential * to be free * have a quality of life like others around us * to make choices that affect our lifes * to complain about services RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - LWiamil - 01-19-2009 11:05 PM He's right, you know. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-20-2009 12:48 AM Published a new article: "Neurodiversity in schools" http://springvale-dandenong-leader.whereilive.com.au/your-news/story/neurodiversity-in-school/# ( I don't actually live in Springvale Dandenong Leader, that's actually where I'm educated. ) RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-20-2009 12:49 AM Sorry, that was stupid. I don't live in Springvale Dandenong Leader! I don't live in Springvale or Dandenong! That was a silly mistake, imagine living in a newspaper. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - LWiamil - 01-20-2009 12:54 AM People who want to accept neurodiversity will want to click on the link above my post. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-23-2009 12:14 PM New article planned: This article explains why autism is a culture. We know of the Australian culture, of the Asian culture, and of the American culture. But how many of us know the autistic culture exists? As I said in my early articles, autistics have their own literature, art, and beliefs that they share with other members of the autistic community. This effectively makes autism a culture. Sadly, autism is known by most people as a 'living death'; a tantrum-throwing, retarded, silent person who bangs his head in the corner of the room. This is wrong. Only a few people are actually like that. Many of these beliefs are based on prejudice, as most of the autistic community have different habits. Autism is a way of life, not a disease. Only an autistic would understand another autistic, just as a neurotypical would only understand another neurotypical. In fact, there are many social groups on the Internet designed for autistic people. Autistics repeatedly stim, which means they do repetitive movements as a stress reliever, or just to make themselves comfortable. This, unfortunately, is viewed as a problem in society. Autistics have their own set of emotions and communication skills that is different from the general population and can never be explained with any word in the English language. Autistics are also picky because some situations make them uncomfortable. Eye contact is avoided because it also makes them uncomfortable when people are staring at their eyeballs. The following are examples of autistic literature:
And the following are examples of terminology used by many autistic people:
Lewis Caroll was known to have Asperger syndrome, a form of autism. Asperger syndrome is believed to make people more creative, and more hyperfocused and looks at the entire picture, not the large picture first, like Lewis Caroll. He wrote that people should accept eccentrics. He also wrote "Alice in Wonderland". You may be wondering, why shouldn't we eradicate the autistic culture? If all Australians were wiped out, we won't have any more Aussies around. If all Chinese were wiped out, we won't have anymore Chinese around. If all autistics were wiped out, we won't have anymore autistics in the world. We need different people in the world, even people with a difference in their brain. Just as it is unacceptable to defame people with a different skin colour, it is also unacceptable to defame people with autism. To cure these people will wipe out the autistic culture and take away the different person they are. Give them a chance. RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Marcia - 01-23-2009 05:06 PM spectrum_rights Wrote: Lewis Caroll was known to have Asperger syndrome, a form of autism. Asperger syndrome is believed to make people more creative, and more hyperfocused and looks at the entire picture, not the large picture first, like Lewis Caroll. He wrote that people should accept eccentrics. He also wrote "Alice in Wonderland".
RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - spectrum_rights - 01-23-2009 11:58 PM I should have said "is believed". RE: Australia has cultural diversity, why can't they accept neurodiversity? - Pakrat - 03-14-2009 06:31 PM We need to educate people about the Aspie culture. If we're not good at public speaking, we might just be good at writing. Every little bit helps in order to put across the point that we aren't some kind of monsters. |