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A teacher's upsetting remarks - woman from mars - 11-11-2007 09:09 PM Just a little rant. My 17 year old AS son told me today that at school they are studying Buddhism. His teacher told him that according to Buddhist teaching, his Aspergers' & skin condition are the result of behaving badly in a past life! ( the teacher did say that he personally didn't believe this.) I know a little about Buddhism & with the help of the internet, spent a couple of hours trying to convince John that this is not always the case. I think that I succeeded, but John tends to believe that the teachers know everything & can't be wrong. Anyone else had a stupid comment made such as this? RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - sarahjoke - 11-11-2007 09:17 PM Pfff! That irks me when teachers say such horrible thing. I think its Tiggerthewing that says that if you replaced Asperger's with "black" in a statement and made that statement racist than its bad. (horribly liberal memory, sorry) Same thing here, if a teacher said that buddhists believed that because someone was black because of bad behaviour it would be a very bad thing to say... Humans are so dumb.
RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - grizeldatee - 11-11-2007 10:16 PM I am have two distinct reactions -- the first is to feel that this teacher needs to consider more carefully how a teacher's words could affect a student, and the second is to wonder why it would be assumed that AS, or any other genetic predisposition for that matter, would necessarily be a form of punishment rather than a type of reward. The value-neutral way to describe the idea of reincarnation, would be to say the the person you are is inextricably linked to the beings you have been prior to this life. And so. RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - P. James Moriarty - 11-11-2007 10:27 PM Seems to be a point of view sort of thing. If (generally speaking) you're an NT and look upon AS as a "disabillity", the teachers comment, though both thoughtless and misguided makes sense. If on the other hand you look on AS (as I do being one) as a difference or a blessing, then the statement is insensitive, discriminatory, and down right rude. What seems consistant is that the (pardon MY rant) Socialist public ed system that says it cherishes diversity etc. consistantly trys to shove everyone into pre-ordained pigeonholes, and if you don't fit into the holes they have avillable, you're just "not normal" and perhaps should be medicated or "treated". Phah!! RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - Neo - 11-11-2007 11:09 PM I think that the Buddha himself was an Aspie! 1) Life is suffering 2) Suffering is caused by attatchment and craving 3) There is a path away from this suffering 4) That path is the eight fold path to enlightenment These are the four noble truths as given to us by our lord the Buddha RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - Neo - 11-11-2007 11:11 PM By the way, I'm not trying to convert anybody, just thought it would be relevant
RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - sarahjoke - 11-12-2007 03:02 AM Neo Wrote: 1) Life is suffering
2) Suffering is caused by attatchment and craving 3) There is a path away from this suffering 4) That path is the eight fold path to enlightenment
RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - Ian - 11-12-2007 02:15 PM My life for the immortal God Emperor Buddha ;p RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - aliengirl - 11-12-2007 03:22 PM That's appalling. You should make a complaint to your education authority about this and also a buddhist organisation as they may be very interested to hear how their religion is being misrepresented. Also, the teacher should apologise publicly and / or issue a publicised written apology. This behaviour is inexcuseable. RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - Ellen - 11-12-2007 04:24 PM woman from mars Wrote: Just a little rant.
My 17 year old AS son told me today that at school they are studying Buddhism. His teacher told him that according to Buddhist teaching, his Aspergers' & skin condition are the result of behaving badly in a past life! ( the teacher did say that he personally didn't believe this.) I know a little about Buddhism & with the help of the internet, spent a couple of hours trying to convince John that this is not always the case. I think that I succeeded, but John tends to believe that the teachers know everything & can't be wrong. Anyone else had a stupid comment made such as this?
RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - andyfry - 11-12-2007 06:14 PM Ellen Wrote: woman from mars Wrote: Just a little rant.
My 17 year old AS son told me today that at school they are studying Buddhism. His teacher told him that according to Buddhist teaching, his Aspergers' & skin condition are the result of behaving badly in a past life! ( the teacher did say that he personally didn't believe this.) I know a little about Buddhism & with the help of the internet, spent a couple of hours trying to convince John that this is not always the case. I think that I succeeded, but John tends to believe that the teachers know everything & can't be wrong. Anyone else had a stupid comment made such as this?
RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - Flardox - 11-13-2007 01:40 PM sarahjoke Wrote: Pfff! That irks me when teachers say such horrible thing. I think its Tiggerthewing that says that if you replaced Asperger's with "black" in a statement and made that statement racist than its bad. (horribly liberal memory, sorry)
Same thing here, if a teacher said that buddhists believed that because someone was black because of bad behaviour it would be a very bad thing to say... Humans are so dumb. ![]()
RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - MadKangaroo - 11-13-2007 03:20 PM woman from mars Wrote: Just a little rant.
My 17 year old AS son told me today that at school they are studying Buddhism. His teacher told him that according to Buddhist teaching, his Aspergers' & skin condition are the result of behaving badly in a past life! ( the teacher did say that he personally didn't believe this.) I know a little about Buddhism & with the help of the internet, spent a couple of hours trying to convince John that this is not always the case. I think that I succeeded, but John tends to believe that the teachers know everything & can't be wrong. Anyone else had a stupid comment made such as this?
RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - violet_yoshi - 11-23-2007 05:04 AM We don't expect teachers not to make mistakes. Not having a basic sense of compassion and understanding for all children, and how they might take hurtful things like what that teacher said, to heart is what we expect teachers shouldn't do. Also this reminds me, I had a looney teacher in grammar school, who I guess we watched A Fire in the Sky or some other alien abduction film. She said that we could all be abducted by aliens at any time. Lots of angry parents called in the next day, saying their child had a nightmare over what she said. RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - SheWhoCan'tThinkOfAUsername - 11-23-2007 05:49 AM ^ Wow... o__0 -- That was really insensitive of the teacher to say. How could someone point out something that... personal, in front of the whole class? Plus, if I was Buddhist, I would be pretty offended... RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - bwcagirlmn - 11-23-2007 09:15 AM I have heard that before about Buddhism so it doesn't really bug me. Using your son as an example is wrong, I haven't seen that happen in a while but every once in a while a teacher slips. I know in a lot of situations though that when a teacher says something concerning Buddhism like that they usually say something like "If you have an illness or difficulty in a certain area, it may be due to something you did in a past life." I remember reading a book with this theory that I thought was great but I can't recall what it's called. I also know that when I hear something like that said in a classroom, I automatically take it to mean the teacher is talking about me, even when they're not. It's also interesting to learn that the teacher knew of your son's aspergers and still said something especially when that's what he brought up. Is it common for all teachers to be informed of this now days? If it is required to tell the teacher, they should provide a class for the teachers so that they know all about it. RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - woman from mars - 11-24-2007 04:05 AM woman from mars Wrote: My 17 year old AS son told me today that at school they are studying Buddhism.
His teacher told him that according to Buddhist teaching, his Aspergers' & skin condition are the result of behaving badly in a past life! ( the teacher did say that he personally didn't believe this.) I know a little about Buddhism & with the help of the internet, spent a couple of hours trying to convince John that this is not always the case. I think that I succeeded, but John tends to believe that the teachers know everything & can't be wrong.
I need to apologise. RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - zelda_hime - 11-24-2007 05:01 AM woman from mars Wrote: (...)the fireman asked all of the children what would they do if there was a fire in their house at 2.am.
Most of the children answered as they had been taught, ..."crawl on the floor, put a wet blanket on me" etc. The fireman said "Wrong , you would be asleep so you would die !!" Can't argue with that because he was correct, but John was afraid to go to sleep for years.
RE: A teacher's upsetting remarks - violet_yoshi - 11-25-2007 11:10 AM zelda_hime Wrote: woman from mars Wrote: (...)the fireman asked all of the children what would they do if there was a fire in their house at 2.am.
Most of the children answered as they had been taught, ..."crawl on the floor, put a wet blanket on me" etc. The fireman said "Wrong , you would be asleep so you would die !!" Can't argue with that because he was correct, but John was afraid to go to sleep for years.
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