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The teen, identified by police only as Jacob, suffers from autism, a developmental disorder that impairs social interaction.

Monroe County sheriff's detectives said 22-year-old Edward Uyesugi II, a Paoli, Ind., resident and an usher at the Cherry Hill Christian Center, told the boy's family he could cure the teenager of the condition.

"(Uyesugi felt that) the boy could be prayed over and the demons could be cast out of him," Detective Brad Swain said.

The family said Uyesugi made the exorcism attempt in May in a bedroom at their home. Swain said Uyesugi "forced the boy down, punched him in the face several times, put his fingers in the boy's throat, causing him to vomit."

"When the family objected, Uyesugi told them that the vomit was demons being cast out," Swain said.

After the family called the church, which the family also attended, the pastor notified authorities of the incident.

The boy's mother told investigators that after the exorcism attempt, the boy's face was nearly twice its normal size, and his eyes were swelled nearly shut, according to police. She told investigators that Uyesugi had pried the boy's eyelids open when the boy attempted to close them, authorities said.

The church's associate pastor had no comment Tuesday about the case.

In a statement to investigators, Uyesugi denied being the person who initiated the praying. A warrant has been issued for Uyesugi's arrest. He faces charges of confinement and misdemeanor battery with bodily injury.

The suspect and the teen's family no longer attend the Bloomington church.

No, Max the Bear, I don't like this kind of Christian either.
What demons??

Blithering idiot - throw him into jail for life and throw away the key!
JAY-ZUSS!!!!!!!! </southern baptist>


At least they didn't tie the kid up in duct tape and smother him with pillows like I've heard another church did.
This exorcism crap seems to be more commonplace than we'd like to think in a developed country in the 21st century.  I really don't think it matters whether they're Christian or something else.  It's stupid, ignorant people being stupid, ignorant people.  I actually have a relative who was subjected to that crap.  Insult to injury, she tried to defend herself and her dad called the police and had her arrested.  Glad I got the AS gene instead of whatever they got.

I am not a religious person but it seems to me a responsible church would advise its members not to do that.  (As in, "I don't want to have to use any of the church funds to pay your bail.")  I should go join the Church of the SubGenius and worship "Bob" just to piss those people off.
*sigh*

We're not all like that... Please don't judge all Christians by the stuff these people are doing. Even in the Bible, when you see demons being cast out, and the apostle doesn't even touch the demon-possessed person, much less beat him! Stupid and counterintuitive, isn't it? I mean, beating an innocent kid is just the kind of thing a demon would love.

(BTW, just for the record, I don't think autism has anything to do with demon possession. Obviously.)
My sincerest apologies if that SubGenius remark offended anyone.  (FYI that's a comedy troupe that mocks anything bad about any religion.  They mess with every religion sooner or later, even Scientology... they're brave.)

I have known lots of Christians in my life and the vast majority are decent.  I've just had the misfortune of knowing some "bad apples", too.  If Christianity didn't exist, the same people would be bad apples in whatever religion [i]did[/u] exist.

It's just that news of another exorcism kind of hit a nerve, because this relative I mentioned... she's smart.  She's probably got ADHD.  Her parents, however, are dumb as two bags of hammers, and I think their daughter's superior intelligence threatened them.  The daughter is all grown up now, and it is painfully obvious that she's cut off from her potential.

So again, my apologies if I offended anyone.
The kid should have bit the beggar's fingers off.  Anybody sticking their fingers down my throat are going to find out how it feels to live digit-less.
Alison
"After the family called the church, which the family also attended, the pastor notified authorities of the incident."

Sounds like an excuse because he beat the person up.  It was not an "official" exorcisms since the church officials were not involved.    Usually there is an investigation held before any official exorcism is done.  I would be wary of anyone person who claimed they could do exorcisms like people who use chelation therapy or anything else.  The family sounds stupid.
As someone who studies christiant excorsim for her character Madison. I know thats not excorsim whatso ever. First off, Christian deliverance is more prayer and non-violence that this bullshit. Those pretenders probably don't know of the gift of desernment.
That sounds like somebody had some opinions about psychology left over from around the American Revolution time period or so.  I remember reading in my psychology text book that torture as a means of exorcism used to be considered fairly standard treatment.  I don't know, probably some sort of theory that devils like bodies but if the bodies become too uncomfortable they'd leave or something.  Who knows, but this kind of stuff used to be kind of normal.  Then somebody got an idea that treating people with mental problems nicely might be good for them, and there was a sudden rush of people recovering almost completely from what ailed them and rejoining society.  Professional doctors don't do this kind of stuff anymore (for the most part) but there's always somebody who is ready to claim that modern medicine has gone astray and that (fill in the blank) problem that seems untreatable must not only be spiritual in origin but that some old and not very doctrinally intelligible treatment (as stated by another posted above, no healing mentioned in Christian scripture involved anything construable as abuse unless you dislike the idea of spit mixed with dirt on your eyelids) must be the answer because its what we barbarians used to do to people.
I am a christian and I am outraged over things like this. No true christian would ever treat anyone like that. It sounds like the guy doing it is the one who needs exorcised.

Callista Wrote:
*sigh*

We're not all like that... Please don't judge all Christians by the stuff these people are doing. Even in the Bible, when you see demons being cast out, and the apostle doesn't even touch the demon-possessed person, much less beat him! Stupid and counterintuitive, isn't it? I mean, beating an innocent kid is just the kind of thing a demon would love.


Ever so true, but there's always the backwater priest who wants to go his own way for some reason or another (especially in the US).

Modern Christianity has heavy emphasis on the value of mutual respect -- although I may not believe in a specific diety, I do live by most Christian values, and don't adhere to any specific Church, as I don't see the practical use in most Christian rituals (I've been to a Catholic grade school), but I do believe in things like providence and an (albeit, not conscious) afterlife, but not in the personification of a single or multiple God(s).

I have always had the notion that a religion is more based on the underlying principles than the exact interpretation of them, since most religious interpretations are very dependent on a cultural reference frame.

(Example: One may find that the traditional female dress code in most Arabic countries could be considered oppressive from a Western point of view, but as an Arab point of view that particular way of dressing makes perfect sense -- it protects a human body from oncoming sand storms, which are not uncommon in the desert, as wel as potential sexual offenders. Same with the Islamic and Jewish rule of not being allowed to eat pork -- it may not make sense to some, but the simple underlying principle here is that pork will contract diseases and spoil more rapidly in a hot environment, where both religons originated. That and the fact that pigs were a pretty rare find in a desert!)

garmonbozia Wrote:
  I should go join the Church of the SubGenius and worship "Bob" just to piss those people off.


Or you could go Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I can't do links, but Wikipedia it and a large page comes up.

Planet*Louise Wrote:
Or you could go Flying Spaghetti Monster.

I can't do links, but Wikipedia it and a large page comes up.


I looked it up in Wikipedia, Big Grin
As Australia is technically part of South-East Asia, we'd have the Flying Noodle Monster.  So then I'd be a Noodlenostic!  
Alison

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